From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 315, Issue 2 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Paint (sean rooney) 2. Re: Ameri-King AK350 (Kenneth L Wiltrout) 3. Re slipping KR (j stevens) 4. Re: BRS installed (joe) 5. RE: UV protection (Jack Cooper) 6. Larry's Lady (Stephen Jacobs) 7. Re: UV protection (Mark Langford) 8. Slips (Don Sprague) 9. KR2 BRS (Don Sprague) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:28:10 -0500 From: sean rooney To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Paint Message-ID: <000f01c3f633$d0cf08e0$b1535643@srauto> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Precedence: list Message: 1 Hi, I have painted allot of cars and trucks in my life.I think that a single stage urethane color over your primer will be fine but read the paint literature. I reserve clear systems for new cars that require two stage systems. Clear tends to show allot of dust and imperfections, paint only magnifies flaws, spraying primer is not the same as color. You might want to get someone to spray it who has experience spraying color.I hope you wet sanded that plane down to 600 or using expensive paint systems it a waste. Just my two cents! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:24:42 -0500 From: Kenneth L Wiltrout To: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com,krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR>Ameri-King AK350 Message-ID: <20040218.102708.3884.5.klw1953@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 Thats true but when ATC asks to confirm your altitude and what they see is 200' less or more than what I see, I've been told to have it checked???? Not quite sure what to do now. Have it checked I guess. On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:08:02 -0500 "Ron Freiberger" writes: > I think ALL encoders are set at standard conditions, 29.92 In of Hg > / > SeaLevel. You would rarely have it read your actual altitude. > > Ron Freiberger > mailto: rfreiberger@swfla.rr.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of > Boeing757mech1@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 1:48 PM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: Re: KR>Ameri-King AK350 > > Be careful! Some encoders send uncorrected barometric pressure and > ATC puts > the correction in automaticallyto what ever the local barro is at > that time. > I > might be able to find out at work if we have access to the books. > > Chris Theroux > Gilbert, AZ > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:40:08 -0600 From: j stevens To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR>Re slipping KR Message-ID: <40338758.5040809@usfamily.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 3 Message: 23 >>I had my first ride in a KR at the Rough River Falls gathering, in >>N4DD with Dan Diehl on the stick. He slipped it all the way to landing >>and it didn't do anything that I did not expect a plane in a slip to >>do. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I tried a few slips yesterday at altitude using 85 indicated and I didn't get the "very quick" nose down pitch. I think that I came in with mostly rudder this time and the wing seemed to go down on it's own. I held the slip for 3 to 4 hundred feet and was getting a pretty high sink rate. I'll have to do some more testing with different control inputs and feel it out some more. The one thing I'm sure of is that it is a lot more difficult to do a "smooth" slip in the KR than in the much larger aircraft like a Tripacer. Maybe it's just a matter of practice. The other thing I'm sure of is I love my speed brake! I flew formation with a Mooney yesterday. He was using 23" and 2400 rpm. I was at full throttle cruise pulling about 2550 rpm from the 0-200. When I get some wheel pants installed I should be able to give him a good run. I've managed to fly 7.5 hours in 5 days. I've got 20+ landings and takeoffs now and I've seen my life flash before my eyes so many times it's like watching re-runs on T.V. !! Larry Flesner Funny Larry I can relate. I was in a situation where my instructor was unavailable so I had a different instructor train me. I knew we were in the thick of it when we took off the instructor got 50 ft off the runway and we were looking at the sky up then down at the runway. So now I had to land the ship on my own for the first time and on a short strip. Talk about the acid test. My Kr is much more sensitive during slips than anything I have flown. Its pitch sensitivity increases but with practice it becomes second nature. Besides half of the fun of my KR is its sensitivity. My instructor said it flies like a fighter. Joel ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:15:03 -0800 From: "joe" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>BRS installed Message-ID: <000701c3f63a$5dcc1de0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> References: <403368F2.7090508@usfamily.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 Joel, Do you have any pics or know of any pics showing a BRS installed on the Aircraft? Thanks for the info. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "j stevens" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 5:30 AM Subject: KR>BRS installed > Came across a KR2 BRS for sale. Can anyone tell me > anything about a KR2 with a BRS. Did anyone ever use one? Does anyone > have one mounted? Where would u mount one and what effect does it have > on flight charasterics?_______________________________________ > > Joe I installed a 1050 on my kr2s. The kr has an installation plan > already drawn up at BRS, If you contact them they will be more than > helpful. Talk w/ Brent he has seen my project and is very helpful. > > the 1050 weights @23 lbs thats including the harness the actual soft > pack (which I recommend vs the canister)is about 18 lbs. I have flown > since installation and have noticed only a slightly heavier nose, > since I mounted it in the forward baggage comp. The harness, if > installed correctly has no noticeable effect on aerodynamics. I must > say that the peace of mind the brs gives me is worth much more than > the cost and time to install.The nose can be compensated w/ a little > counter weight. If you have any more questions feel free. > > Joel > > > > ------ http://USFamily.Net/info - Unlimited Internet - From $8.99/mo! ------ > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:10:44 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>UV protection Message-ID: <410-220042318171044578@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 5 I ask about UV primer at 2 different paint stores. The first told me that the top coat (color coat) was the UV protection. The second store called the paint manufacturer before giving the same answer. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Jim Morehead > To: > Date: 2/18/2004 12:33:31 AM > Subject: KR>Paint Help > > Netters, > For those that have painted their KRs with out using Smooth Prime. > I was at the paint store asking for a UV protection sand able primer. > They said that I should us PPGšs epoxy Non sand able primer first, > $190.00 per Gal. Then a sand able primer, then the color coat plus a clear coat. > I have two coats of Smooth Prime on the wings and tail feathers. > Any help is appreciated. > > Jim Morehead > Cameron Park, CA > > Cowl is ready to paint. > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:44:30 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" To: "'KRnet'" Subject: KR>Larry's Lady Message-ID: <001001c3f646$e392faf0$0f64a8c0@homedesktop> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20040218075900.007a2100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 Lots of questions in this post and I'll try to answer to them over the next few days. Thanks Larry - standing by. >From your other email - I've seen my life flash before my eyes so many times it's like watching re-runs on T.V. Gulp!! - are you fast, good or just lucky - please say more. Steve J ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:40:05 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>UV protection Message-ID: <025901c3f64e$a28fa230$5e0ca58c@tbe.com> References: <410-220042318171044578@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 7 And in basecoat clearcoat systems, the UV protection is in the clearcoat. I initially had a bad opinion of these systems, and clearcoat in general, because a 1980's book that I have by Du Pont came right out and said that clears aren't durable because they don't have any real solids in them (not to mention all of those Detroit cars you see with clearcoat peeling off the hoods and roofs). They've apparently improved on them significantly, and the UV is built into them as well. I went to my bodyworking class last night and discovered why I'm not so good at priming things. The guy showed us how to prime some parts, and he sprayed it about 3-4 inches from the surfaces. No wonder I was getting dusty overspray all over the place... Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:40:12 -0600 From: "Don Sprague" To: Subject: KR>Slips Message-ID: <003501c3f652$06015e50$e3c00a43@don> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 8 Oscar, I've got about 8 hours on N118DS with no further engine stopping. I've = found that cutting back to 2000-2200 RPM on base allows me to bleed off = speed and altitude so I'm at 400ft and 80-90mph turning final. I keep a = minimum of 80mph until I've got the field locked in and about 200ft when = I cut the power and fly it in. It truly does squeek in. I tried slipping when I'm too high on final (still don't have the = confidence in the VW since the 4 initial deadstick landings), and the = plane drops nicely at 1000 ft/min. I haven't noticed any nose dipping = or any of the problems Larry found, maybe because it's not the "S" = model. Full rudder just increases the rate of descent. To line up over = the runway I just take out the excess rudder and she straightens right = up. =20 As light as the plane is, however, I still get an unsettling burble as I = cross over the highway just before landing. Also, air turbulence is = unsettling due to the tendency to overcontrol the pitch while bouncing = around. =20 My elevator was built without a counterbalance and was too heavy for the = trim to work effectively at any attitude or speed. So I placed a spring = between the elevator cam and the aft spar, just strong enough to counter = some of the elevator weight. Now the trim is effective and I can = finally trim for level flight. I'll put another hour or so over the airport before I'll have the = courage to cut the umbilical cord and fly to some of the neighboring = airports. I'm not ready for that adrenaline rush yet. Don Sprague KR2 N118DS Houston, Texas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:04:20 -0600 From: "Don Sprague" To: Subject: KR>KR2 BRS Message-ID: <003601c3f652$063b5a10$e3c00a43@don> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 9 Joe, I mounted a BRS in my KR2 N118DS, The canister bolted onto the aft side = of the bulkhead behind my head, tilted about 10-15 degrees to port (for = the chute to clear the vertical stab). The Kevlar straps are looped = around the main spar close to the fuselage, run back along the wing root = and then up behind the canopy to the 10 inch hole above the canister. I = covered the straps with ceconite-glued, stretched and doped to the = fuselage (my hangermate has a ragwing Tailwind and showed me how to do = it). The third strap connects to the bolt that holds the tailwheel = spring and runs up inside the tail feathers to a small hole just in = front of the vertical stabilizer, then forward externally to the same = hole over the canister.. This was also covered by ceconite. These = straps then go down to connect to the chute rocket. I covered the hole = in the turtle deck with the piece I had cut out, securing it with light = weight ceconite tape. The sense of security is considerable, especially for my wife who still = has visions of widowhood. Having said that, It would have to be a = pretty catastrophic set of circumstances where I wouldn't attempt to fly = the plane in, with the exception of avoiding landing in the marshes = around here. The chute takes 1 second to deploy at a max speed of 140mph. Hope this helps, write me off line if you have any questions or need = more detail. Don Sprague KR2 N118DS Houston, Texas ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 315, Issue 2 *************************************