From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net on behalf of krnet-request@mylist.net Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 12:00 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 319, Issue 2 Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: old photos (Mark Langford) 2. Re: Hardware list (Mark Jones) 3. RE: old photos (alphabravo pilot) 4. RE: Both wing tanks on same fuel line (Wolfgang Decker) 5. Murphy and Me (Long) (Steve Glover) 6. Re: Dual Facet Pumps (Ron Eason) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:08:16 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>old photos Message-ID: <0eb301c3f966$769e1d80$1202a8c0@basement> References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 1 AL MARZUOQI wrote: >>I have attached some old pics that I had to show them to you befor few >>= monthes ago << KRnet does NOT accept enclosures, due to the fact that if it did, you'd = have several viruses to deal with daily. Please post photos to a = website and simply publish the URL to KRnet if you want others to see = it. Please see http://www.krnet.org/info.html for other KRnet rules. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama N56ML "at" hiwaay.net see KR2S project at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:13:20 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Hardware list Message-ID: <008a01c3f96f$8d744800$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> References: <200402221458.i1MEwmtt028701@mxsf18.cluster1.charter.net> <004101c3f958$7948ac70$0202a8c0@lori8v5h2xi9m3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 2 General rule of thumb is: All metal lock nuts in engine compartment. Elastic lock nuts on all other bolts where castellated are not used. Castellated must be used on any bolt that pivots or holds a pivoting component such as bellcranks, push tubes, cable shackles, etc... Always use AN hardware. Tony Bingelis' construction books cover all of these. The three books of his I high recommend are; Firewall Forward; Sportplane Construction Techniques; and The Sportplane builder. EAA sell these as a package deal. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve and Lori McGee" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:28 AM Subject: Re: KR>Hardware list > I guess I did not explain myself well enuf. I did not mean a parts > list for > the KR. I meant what is required (if there is a guideline) for > hardware fittings on bell cranks, pushtubes, cables, etc. Regardless > of the plane. So the inspector doesn't come in and say " you have to replace all these > nuts with castles, those pins with bolts, ..." Thanks for the replies! > > Steve McGee > Endeavor Wi. USA > Building a KR2S widened. > lmcgee@maqs.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: KR>Hardware list > > > > > Is there a list or info page some where noting the hardware requirements > (castellated nuts, pins, etc) on things such as push tubes, bell > cranks, cables, etc???? > > > > > > Steve McGee > > > Endeavor Wi. USA > > > Building a KR2S widened. > > > lmcgee@maqs.net > > > > > Steve, > > > > I have a list of just such in an excell format. Just like the one I made > for the aluminum that is posted on the archieve. It was made from > plans "as > plans". You would need to modify for your use. It lists each item and where > it is to be used. If you would like I will send it to you direct. > > > > Steven Phillabaum > > Auburn, AL > > "Work Table Stage" > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 18:14:15 +0000 From: "alphabravo pilot" To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR>old photos Message-ID: Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: list Message: 3

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Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:21:22 -0500 From: "Wolfgang Decker" To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR>Both wing tanks on same fuel line Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002a01c3f949$eee94660$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 4 > Dan, that sounds reasonable to me but would also stop the leveling of > fuel between tanks so there is a trade off there. Only if you try to fill both tanks through one wing only. During flight however the tanks should drain in a way that they are more or less equally filled, as the fuller tank will always have higher line pressure and therefore will drain preferably. Wolfgang - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:05:02 -0800 From: "Steve Glover" To: "KR builders and pilots" Subject: KR>Murphy and Me (Long) Message-ID: <002001c3f976$c647fe90$c18afea9@IntelliSpec> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: list Message: 5 Hello Netters, I thought a few may be able to learn from my experience. I sent this to = a friend of mine and he thought I should share it as a learning = tool...so at the risk of being embarrassed, here goes... I took a trip to Arizona in the KR back in December. I wanted to leave = early but it was overcast. I called for weather and the briefer gave me = tops at 4000'. I had to wait a couple hours but the clouds finally broke = over Corona. I figured I could get clearance from March AFB and climb = through the broken area to go VFR over the top to the Banning pass. From = there out is was supposed to be clear. Then good 'old "Murphy" shows up. = I was trying a new GPS and it seemed to be working ok. As I was climbing = , 4000, 5000, 6000, still cloudy. I kept thinking, I should be clear = soon. Finally the clouds closed in around me. I was in the soup and the = KR has nothing for IFR. I though maybe I could climb through to maybe = 7000' and I would break through.NOPE! I started losing power and = couldn't hold altitude. At this point I am flying the ball on my = electric turn and bank trying to keep right side up. I call March and = tell them I am at 6000' and in the soup without IFR instruments and = losing power. I asked for a vector out and the guy comes back with, " I = really don't know what to tell yaw". Jerk. At least he could have let me = know if I had obstacles ahead. I did figure since I was still in his = airspace there wasn't anything too close. Anyway, I am looking at my GPS and the screen hasn't changed since I = left Corona. It wasn't working.crap! So, I'm descending, trying to stay = level, and finally break through at about 4800'. The upper cloud layer = was at 4800' and the lowers were at about 4200'. My engine smoothed out = which was a relief. I pulled my trusty handheld GPS (Garmin 12XL) out of = my flight bag and booted it up. I get my bearings and can see the = Banning pass so I make a run for it. March tower comes back with, "are = you going back to Corona?". From my point of view, it is pretty black = back that way and I don't see any terrain. I tell them I have Banning in = sight and will be continuing. I figure at the worst, if I have any more = engine issues I have Banning, the "Stumps", and Palm Springs to land at. = March then asks me for weather conditions? Whatever! I get through the pass and the weather is beautiful! Blue skies and calm = as can be. I turned on the Ipod and selected some mellow music to try = and relax a bit. I scan my panel and realize I never turned on my = electric T&B. Oh Brother!=20 I get to my "destination" which was supposed to be Parker, AZ. and start = looking for the airport. Either the airport is REALLY small or I'm in = the wrong location. The coordinates in the 12XL were taken out of an = older AOPA book. After about 10 minutes of looking for the airport I = start trying to figure out what the deal is with the new GPS. Turns out = the power adapter came unplugged. Now I'm back in business. I pull up = Parker and it shows I am about 68 miles off course, AAUGGH!!!! What = next!? I finally make it to Parker and have a nice visit with friends. I top = off the KR and head back. I stopped in Palm Springs to see my parents = and check weather. If conditions were the same, I would stay overnight = at my Parents. Weather briefer indicated the front has moved through and = it is clear below 12000'. Cool. After lunch we say our goodbyes and I = take off. I get through the Banning pass and the haze is almost worse = than the clouds. March tower doesn't respond for transition request so I = have to skirt between their airspace and Ontario. I ended up having to = descend to about 2000' just to have terrain reference. I flew IFR (I = follow Roads) from San Bernardino all the way back to Corona. I didn't have any more engine problems throughout my trip but wanted to = find out what the deal was with the loss of power. When I checked my = valves, they were really tight. The valves on 2 cylinders didn't seem to = be closing completely. The best I can figure is, all the moisture from = the clouds affected the combustion since I have ram air. I did use my = carb heat but it really didn't have any effect during the loss of power. = I re-adjusted the valves and changed the oil. My compression was = definitely better and it has run fine ever since.=20 Moral of the story is, (at least for me), never fly the KR when weather = is questionable. Never believe the weather briefer.verify everything. = Always, always, always, perform your scheduled maintenance and check = regularly. It had been over 30 hours since I last adjusted the valves. = Use your checklists! Regards, Steve Glover KR-2 N902G Rancho Santa Margarita, Ca. kr02g@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:33:45 -0600 From: "Ron Eason" To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR>Dual Facet Pumps Message-ID: <006701c3f97a$c9cd30e0$6501a8c0@Administration> References: <005001c3f8d0$b6e8c520$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> <019901c3f8e2$ee8c3810$0502a8c0@office> <00a001c3f8e6$81d9b180$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> <3.0.6.32.20040222020158.00801df0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 6 This could be corrected by a ball check valve [no spring] in each branch to the wing tanks. KRron ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:01 AM Subject: KR>Dual Facet Pumps > >P.S. Mark what would prevent the fuel from all running to the low > >wing as in > >a bank, and if it did would you be able to control the aircraft with > >one full wing and one empty wing. Orma aka AviationMech > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > A co-ordinated turn will go a long way in keeping the fuel where it > is supposed to be. If you're in a slipping turn you will have fuel > filling the line running from the high wing to the low wing. If you're > in a skidding turn you will have fuel running from the low wing > through the line to the high wing or at least keeping fuel at the > pickup in the low wing. The Piper Cherokee line has been flying > for what, fourty years with wing tanks and no header tank and > I seem to recall they only draw from one tank at a time. Also, > how long would it take to empty 10 gallon of fuel through a > 3/8" O.D. line? > > Also, you don't need a 100 percent uninterrupted flow as you have > a small amount of fuel in the carb. How long will your engine run > if you shut off the fuel supply? I'm not talking "mixture" here but > the fuel supply. I suspect my KR will run 20 or 30 seconds if > I shut of the fuel lines. If all of the components of his fuel system > are working Mark should never have a problem. I say that without > knowing how is tanks are plumbed but I'm confident it will work. > For Mark, you really should have a shutoff for each tank that is > easy to access and use. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 319, Issue 2 *************************************