From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 107 Date: 3/16/2005 2:46:19 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Header Tanks (phillip matheson) 2. Re: Header Tanks (Barry Kruyssen) 3. Re: Dual Controls (was seat possition) (larry severson) 4. RE: Header Tanks (Stephen Jacobs) 5. RE: Kr Costs... (Stephen Jacobs) 6. RE: Header Tanks (Stephen Jacobs) 7. GPS (Dan Heath) 8. Re: handheld GPS (was Kr cost) (bgdfix@vvm.com) 9. dual sticks (larry flesner) 10. Fit two people (Kevin Jarvis) 11. handheld GPS Upgrades? (Steve Bray) 12. Re: handheld GPS (was Kr cost) (Robert L. Stone) 13. Re: Header Tanks (Dennis Mingear) 14. Hangers (Joseph H. Horton) 15. Re: Hangers (gleone) 16. Hangar costs (JIM VANCE) 17. RE: Hangers (Steve Bray) 18. RE: Hangers (Wood, Sidney M.) 19. RE: Hangar costs (Doug Rupert) 20. Re: Hangers (Barry Kruyssen) 21. Fit two people (Ronald Metcalf) 22. Fit two people (Ronald Metcalf) 23. Parts found... Jeltema (Ron Freiberger) 24. RE: Fit two people (Brian Dominick) 25. RE: Fit two people (Brian Dominick) 26. Re: Fit two people (joe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:37:29 +1100 From: "phillip matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Header Tanks To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005901c529ea$43bf3e20$dda7443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1250"; reply-type=original Doug Said The KR2S, when built without the plans located header tank, will not have much CG shift. I forget the exact number, but mine with wing tanks shifts less than two inches from empty fuel light pilot to full fuel with heavy passengers. I think Mark Jones said his was closer to an inch the other day ---------------------------------- I have a KR2, Can I NOT use the header Tank. Some are telling me I MUST have a header tank to help with the balance. My wing tanks are from the back of the main outter spar aft 13 inches and 45 inches outwards. these hold 45 litures.( 11 US Gals) The rear C/G limit is about 4 inches behind the main spar , per plans) less the last 2 inches . Comments Please on NOT having a header Tamk and possible balance problems. ( engine will be 95kgs) and can move forward OK. Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:48:16 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Header Tanks To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <016801c529eb$c2044400$8200a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Hi Phil, The header tank is not required for balance. You can adjust the C of G by altering the engine mount length. This is quite easy if you are making your own engine mount or are up to modifying it. When changing engines I did exactly that and got to within 3mm of my desired result. You can always call me on 07 4095 3956 to discuss in deapth if you like. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: phillip matheson I have a KR2, Can I NOT use the header Tank. Some are telling me I MUST have a header tank to help with the balance. My wing tanks are from the back of the main outter spar aft 13 inches and 45 inches outwards. these hold 45 litures.( 11 US Gals) The rear C/G limit is about 4 inches behind the main spar , per plans) less the last 2 inches . Comments Please on NOT having a header Tamk and possible balance problems. ( engine will be 95kgs) and can move forward OK. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:13:54 -0800 From: larry severson Subject: Re: KR> Dual Controls (was seat possition) To: KRnet Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20050315221221.00c20e90@pop-server.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >BTW, Where are you on your project? It is currently dogging it in my garage, 90% done, with 90% to go. >Do you have >pictures posted somewhere? No >. I used to live in Fountain >Valley, off Newhope and Mcfadden. Brookhurst and Talbert Larry Severson Fountain Valley, CA 92708 (714) 968-9852 larry2@socal.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:13:08 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Header Tanks To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c52a00$00fcc7e0$2b64a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My wing tanks are from the back of the main outter spar aft 13 inches and 45 inches outwards. these hold 45 litures.( 11 US Gals) +++++++++++ Hey Phil Our gallon is like your Oz gallon, i.e. an Imperial gallon of 4.55 L. The only thing American that is not bigger than every one else's, is their gallon - one US gallon is only 3.785 L. (or 11 US gal = 41.64 L). Only reason for pointing this out is it caused me some panic as a fresh PPL in 1976 when I used a fuel burn in L/hour and worked out the range (Grumman AA5) assuming Imperial gallons. I launched from your home town headed for Springbok in the NW Cape - 4 hour cross country with what emerged later as a 4.2 hour range. Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:13:08 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Kr Costs... To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000101c52a00$030d5860$2b64a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Stephen, what model Garmen was that? ++++++++++++++ Hi Dene - Sorry, I can't recall. It was very much like the typical Garmin hand-held before the moving map units came along. The model number was one digit different from the otherwise identical aviation GPS - something like x93 instead of x94. I did try to find some email correspondence to refresh my memory, but I probably dumped it when I gave the GPS away - I did however find the Garmin plug pin-outs (from the same guy at Garmin) if anyone needs this. Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:14:03 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Header Tanks To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000201c52a00$20d36a60$2b64a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My wing tanks are from the back of the main outter spar aft 13 inches and 45 inches outwards. these hold 45 litures.( 11 US Gals) +++++++++++ Hey Phil Our gallon is like your Oz gallon, i.e. an Imperial gallon of 4.55 L. The only thing American that is not bigger than every one else's, is their gallon - one US gallon is only 3.785 L. (or 11 US gal = 41.64 L). Only reason for pointing this out is it caused me some panic as a fresh PPL in 1976 when I used a fuel burn in L/hour and worked out the range (Grumman AA5) assuming Imperial gallons. I launched from your home town headed for Springbok in the NW Cape - 4 hour cross country with what emerged later as a 4.2 hour range. Steve J ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:10:40 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> GPS To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <42381430.00000B.01084@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I went to this site and I think he has omitted several of the really good pocket PC GPS providers. Try these: http://anywheremap.com/ http://www.flynavgps.com/products.shtml The second one has a demo that you can download and run on your PC or handheld. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- Jim, Try: http://www.cockpitgps.com/ I'll let you draw your own conclusions! ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 06:14:26 -0600 (CST) From: bgdfix@vvm.com Subject: Re: KR> handheld GPS (was Kr cost) To: "Jim Sellars" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <23846.216.169.41.28.1110975266.squirrel@www.vvm.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Hi All I have a Garman GPS Pilot III that I love. It is simple and light and does all that I need. A friend got a Garman296 with all the bells and whisels and it has frustrated him to the point of not using it. Just to complicated. Remember KISS (keep it simple stupid) Thanks All Brian G. Douglas N8575C KR2 was a tail drager Killeen. Texas > Scott: > I am considering a new GPS unit for my KR2 soon to be on line. > What do you recommend after doing the research? The Lorance airmap or > the Garmin? Can one use the lap top approach with a GPS map unit cost > effectively? ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:16:22 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> dual sticks To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050316071622.00813760@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" and your right knee is >against your passengers left knee and you can't get full side to side >stick motion unless you both kind of move your knees in the center of >the plane along with the stick. This is more of a problem if either of >you are tall and less of a problem if you make the plane a few inches >wider. Brian Kraut +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Not a problem with right stick removed. Mine is held tight with a thumb screw. Even with both sticks installed, the side-to-side movement is very small on the KR and really should not be a problem in most cases. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:35:07 -0500 From: Kevin Jarvis Subject: KR> Fit two people To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <4238360B.7020906@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Brian, I figured that someone would have jumped in there and answered your question, ...I had the same one once. If I recall, go ahead someone jump in here, the KR2 that I measured was around 34". I measured a 150 with the bowed doors and at the widest point measured at the window sills, I think it was 41". Any body ??? Kevin ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:54:55 -0600 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: KR> handheld GPS Upgrades? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello I have a Magellan 4000 and a Garmin Emap. Both worked ok for my VP-1 but is there a way to upgrade either for aviation? Thanks Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee KR-2 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 09:09:03 -0600 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> handheld GPS (was Kr cost) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000b01c52a3a$17651f20$a624c944@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Netters, Brian is correct about the Garmin MAP296 that I bought. When I first started trying to use is I was very frustrated because of the various features being hard to figure out how to use and the owners manual leaves much to be desired. However, I got an instructional DVD that is very good and I have learned the basic navigational part plus a lot of other things as a result of playing the disk over and over again. When you are my age (76) learning comes a little harder than it did forty years ago. I would however advise the following. There are a lot of features on the Garmin MAP296 that most pilots will never use because the same information is on a current sectional and in order to keep the GPS current the owner is required to download changes from a computer to the GPS and Garmin charges for this service. If you want to use a GPS for navigation, buy a cheaper one without all of the features that you will never use anyway. If any of you have a Garmin MAP296 and would like to have a copy of the DVD, send me a blank disk and I will make a copy and send it to you providing you include postage for the return of the disk. There is no copyright prohibition on the DVD so it's legal to make copies. Bob Stone 4214 Lakecliffe Drive Harker Heights, Tx 76548-8611 rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Jim Sellars" ; "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: Re: KR> handheld GPS (was Kr cost) > Hi All > I have a Garman GPS Pilot III that I love. It is simple and light > and does all that I need. A friend got a Garman296 with all the bells > and whisels and it has frustrated him to the point of not using it. > Just to complicated. Remember KISS (keep it simple stupid) > > Thanks All > Brian G. Douglas > N8575C KR2 was a tail drager > Killeen. Texas > >> Scott: >> I am considering a new GPS unit for my KR2 soon to be on line. >> What do you recommend after doing the research? The Lorance airmap >> or the Garmin? >> Can one use the lap top approach with a GPS map unit cost effectively? > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:20:22 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> Header Tanks To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050316192022.56415.qmail@web51406.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You could always use spacers on the firewall to move the engine mount forward 1 or 2 inches and then you wouldn't have to modify the engine mount at all. A little W&B math should get you into the ballpark for spacer thickness. Denny Barry Kruyssen wrote: Hi Phil, The header tank is not required for balance. You can adjust the C of G by altering the engine mount length. This is quite easy if you are making your own engine mount or are up to modifying it. When changing engines I did exactly that and got to within 3mm of my desired result. You can always call me on 07 4095 3956 to discuss in deapth if you like. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. That does not make the monkey patriotic." Scott Ritter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:54:14 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: KR> Hangers To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050316.155415.5256.7.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Guys, I just got a call back from my first try at getting into a hanger. If I go in with this guy it is in a pretty new hanger at the closest airport to me (only 10 min). His cost is $350/month. My split would be $175. I think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little higher than other areas. Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more than I wanted to spend. The wife may have to give up her shoe allowance;-) Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:03:11 -0700 (Mountain Standard Time) From: "gleone" Subject: Re: KR> Hangers To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <42389F0F.00000D.04092@YOUR-FD6NVJCER4> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It's easier and CHEAPER to build (or buy) an enclosed trailer and tow the thing to the airport. "Michael Moore is living proof to never trust anyone who is bigger around than tall!" -------Original Message------- From: Joseph H. Horton Date: 03/16/05 13:57:05 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Hangers Guys, I just got a call back from my first try at getting into a hanger. If I go in with this guy it is in a pretty new hanger at the closest airport to me (only 10 min). His cost is $350/month. My split would be $175. I think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little higher than other areas. Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more than I wanted to spend. The wife may have to give up her shoe allowance;-) Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:11:32 -0600 From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: KR> Hangar costs To: "krnet" Message-ID: <001701c52a6c$bb7579c0$0500a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have my planes hangared at Ellsworth, Kansas (9K7). My cost for a large single hangar (will hold 2 planes) is $45 a month. There is a public hangar that will hold about six planes and it costs $25 a month. If you want to move here, the City of Ellsworth is giving away free building sites. Pre-owned houses are a bargain. A six bedroom, three bath brick home on 7 acres with two large barns for all of your playtoys sold for $70,000. See, there are advantages to putting up with Kansas winds. Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:30:07 -0600 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: RE: KR> Hangers To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed My fee in a publc hanger is $75 for a VP-1. They pull it out and fuel it for you if you'll let them. As for the shoe allowance, we like'm barefooted here. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Joseph H. Horton" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Hangers >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:54:14 -0500 > >Guys, >I just got a call back from my first try at getting into a hanger. If I >go in with this guy it is in a pretty new hanger at the closest airport >to me (only 10 min). His cost is $350/month. My split would be $175. I >think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little higher than other areas. >Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more than I wanted to >spend. The wife may have to give up her shoe allowance;-) > >Joe Horton >joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:30:51 -0500 From: "Wood, Sidney M." Subject: RE: KR> Hangers To: "gleone" , "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" New T hangars 41x32 at 2W6 St. Mary's County about 50 miles southeast of Washington DC just outside the ADIZ go for $350/month and end units for $380/month. Box units 44x33 go for $600/month. There is about a year waiting for all the above. Trailers may look better every day, but you can get three KR's in the 41x32 T without disturbing the wings. Sid Wood Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD USA Sidney.wood@titan.com It's easier and CHEAPER to build (or buy) an enclosed trailer and tow the thing to the airport. "Michael Moore is living proof to never trust anyone who is bigger around than tall!" -------Original Message------- From: Joseph H. Horton Date: 03/16/05 13:57:05 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Hangers Guys, I just got a call back from my first try at getting into a hanger. If I go in with this guy it is in a pretty new hanger at the closest airport to me (only 10 min). His cost is $350/month. My split would be $175. I think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little higher than other areas. Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more than I wanted to spend. The wife may have to give up her shoe allowance;-) Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:31:25 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> Hangar costs To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000e01c52a6f$82855600$3c3cd0d8@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Tell that to Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz. Doug Rupert If you want to move here, the City of Ellsworth is giving away free building sites. Pre-owned houses are a bargain. A six bedroom, three bath brick home on 7 acres with two large barns for all of your playtoys sold for $70,000. See, there are advantages to putting up with Kansas winds. Jim Vance -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 07:38:09 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Hangers To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <01ce01c52a70$73783a50$8200a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" she's only got one pair of feet! Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph H. Horton Guys, I just got a call back from my first try at getting into a hanger. If I go in with this guy it is in a pretty new hanger at the closest airport to me (only 10 min). His cost is $350/month. My split would be $175. I think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little higher than other areas. Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more than I wanted to spend. The wife may have to give up her shoe allowance;-) Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:57:37 -0600 From: "Ronald Metcalf" Subject: KR> Fit two people To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Kevin / Brian You will find that most established KR builders become highly suspicious of anyone asking questiuons that suggest that they have not purchased plans yet. The KR2 and KR2s are the same in this dept - 34" wide. This should not be an issue as most every KR built deviates in terms of cockpit width. Widening the cabin by as little as 4" makes a big difference. SteveJ >From: Kevin Jarvis >Reply-To: k.jarvis@mchsi.com, KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Fit two people >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:35:07 -0500 > >Brian, > >I figured that someone would have jumped in there and answered your >question, ...I had the same one once. > >If I recall, go ahead someone jump in here, the KR2 that I measured was >around 34". I measured a 150 with the bowed doors and at the widest >point measured at the window sills, I think it was 41". Any body ??? > >Kevin > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:58:57 -0600 From: "Ronald Metcalf" Subject: KR> Fit two people To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Kevin / Brian You will find that most established KR builders become highly suspicious of anyone asking questiuons that suggest that they have not purchased plans yet. The KR2 and KR2s are the same in this dept - 34" wide. This should not be an issue as most every KR built deviates in terms of cockpit width. Widening the cabin by as little as 4" makes a big difference. SteveJ >From: Kevin Jarvis >Reply-To: k.jarvis@mchsi.com, KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Fit two people >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:35:07 -0500 > >Brian, > >I figured that someone would have jumped in there and answered your >question, ...I had the same one once. > >If I recall, go ahead someone jump in here, the KR2 that I measured was >around 34". I measured a 150 with the bowed doors and at the widest >point measured at the window sills, I think it was 41". Any body ??? > >Kevin > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:28:41 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: KR> Parts found... Jeltema To: "KRNET" Message-ID: <000001c52a77$82432340$6400a8c0@Disorganized> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dave Jeltema bought my project, and may have sold it. Cleaning the garage today, I found some parts that belong to someone other than me. Can anyone help? Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net <- Note this NEW info ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:39:26 +1100 From: "Brian Dominick" Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people To: , "'KRnet'" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kevin Thanks for your reply, sorry I missed your reply, before I replied to SteveJ, Thanks again Brian Dominick -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Jarvis Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 12:35 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Fit two people Brian, I figured that someone would have jumped in there and answered your question, ...I had the same one once. If I recall, go ahead someone jump in here, the KR2 that I measured was around 34". I measured a 150 with the bowed doors and at the widest point measured at the window sills, I think it was 41". Any body ??? Kevin _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 09:39:26 +1100 From: "Brian Dominick" Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" SteveJ Thanks for the reply, I see no reason for suspicion I am only trying to compare KR to the many other kits on the market ( which generally show cabin widths in their specs) before I spend hard earned on plans, maybe I should be suspicious of a manufacturer who does not specify the dimension. To me its an important issue I would not like to travel long distances in something with dimensions like a Cessna 150 at about 36". I guess I should have directed my question to Rand Robertson and not bothered all you busy builders. Thanks again Brian Dominick -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Ronald Metcalf Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 8:58 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Fit two people Kevin / Brian You will find that most established KR builders become highly suspicious of anyone asking questiuons that suggest that they have not purchased plans yet. The KR2 and KR2s are the same in this dept - 34" wide. This should not be an issue as most every KR built deviates in terms of cockpit width. Widening the cabin by as little as 4" makes a big difference. SteveJ >From: Kevin Jarvis >Reply-To: k.jarvis@mchsi.com, KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Fit two people >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:35:07 -0500 > >Brian, > >I figured that someone would have jumped in there and answered your >question, ...I had the same one once. > >If I recall, go ahead someone jump in here, the KR2 that I measured was >around 34". I measured a 150 with the bowed doors and at the widest >point measured at the window sills, I think it was 41". Any body ??? > >Kevin > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 14:44:52 -0800 From: "joe" Subject: Re: KR> Fit two people To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002401c52a79$c5c10d60$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Since I have 2 sets of plans 1 and 2. Does that make me suspicious of 1 set planners. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Metcalf" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 1:57 PM Subject: KR> Fit two people > Kevin / Brian > > You will find that most established KR builders become highly suspicious of > anyone asking questiuons that suggest that they have not purchased plans > yet. > > The KR2 and KR2s are the same in this dept - 34" wide. > > This should not be an issue as most every KR built deviates in terms of > cockpit width. Widening the cabin by as little as 4" makes a big > difference. > > SteveJ > > > > > > > > > > >From: Kevin Jarvis > >Reply-To: k.jarvis@mchsi.com, KRnet > >To: krnet@mylist.net > >Subject: KR> Fit two people > >Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:35:07 -0500 > > > >Brian, > > > >I figured that someone would have jumped in there and answered your > >question, ...I had the same one once. > > > >If I recall, go ahead someone jump in here, the KR2 that I measured was > >around 34". I measured a 150 with the bowed doors and at the widest > >point measured at the window sills, I think it was 41". Any body ??? > > > >Kevin > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 107 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================