From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 108 Date: 3/16/2005 7:41:03 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Hangers (Dan Heath) 2. Fit two people - suspicious (Kevin Jarvis) 3. RE: Fit two people (Dan Heath) 4. RE: Hangers (Ray Fuenzalida) 5. RE: Fit two people (Brian Dominick) 6. RE: Fit two people (Brian Kraut) 7. RE: Fit two people (Dan Heath) 8. Hangers (Robert L. Stone) 9. Re: Hangers (Barry Kruyssen) 10. Have started the sides (Rod Beam) 11. RE: Hangers (Mark Jones) 12. Hangers (larry flesner) 13. Re: Have started the sides (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 14. Re: Hangers (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 15. Re: Have started the sides (robert glidden) 16. Re: Hangers (robert glidden) 17. Re: Fit two people (paulwasp@webtv.net) 18. Sun-n-fun Roll call (Steven Phillabaum) 19. Re: Sun-n-fun Roll call (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 20. Re: Fit two people (Mark Jones) 21. Re: Fit two people (robert glidden) 22. Re: Fit two people (Bubba) 23. Re: Have started the sides (William Jeffries) 24. main spars anyone? (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 25. RE: Fit two people (Brian Kraut) 26. Re: CorvAircraft> data logging (Mark Langford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:21:33 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Hangers To: , "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4238BF7D.00001A.01084@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It's easier and CHEAPER to build (or buy) an enclosed trailer and tow the thing to the airport. Sure it is, if you can afford the time to put the wings on and take them off everytime. And if you are willing to allow your plane to suffer all the damage that will result from doing that and towing it back and forth. Hangars at our airport just went up to $170 for a T hangar. This is fully paved with floor and steel rollaway door. I think it is expensive, but we got them for $100 for a long time which was a steal. There is enough room in one for 2 KRs or other such small plane, but right now, we don't have anyone who wants to share because they just got finished building a bunch of new ones. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:26:10 -0500 From: Kevin Jarvis Subject: KR> Fit two people - suspicious To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <4238C092.4080600@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed SteveJ you said, Kevin / Brian You will find that most established KR builders become highly suspicious of anyone asking questiuons that suggest that they have not purchased plans yet. The KR2 and KR2s are the same in this dept - 34" wide. This should not be an issue as most every KR built deviates in terms of cockpit width. Widening the cabin by as little as 4" makes a big difference. SteveJ Brian made it clear that he didn't have the plans and that he was making a comparison. I have yet to notice anyone "highly suspicious" on this group about anything. So much so, that I borrowed a set of plans from a builder, we were strangers to each other, without questions, just to look at them. And he didn't even have my phone number or address. As for suspicion, it is a fact I have seen dubious remarks made here by noted "professionals" that to me are the root of ignorance or a total lack of experience if these persons are in fact "professionals". (do NOT interchange "professional" with "authority" ). I am suspicious of people whose email names are different than their group sign-on names.......... people that don't know what spell-check is or have a lack of understanding of grammar and people that disregard Mark L.'s instructions for appropriate usage of this group. Maybe we can beat this horse to death.... let the beatings begin. Kevin N741T ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:28:57 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4238C139.00001C.01084@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You directed your questions to the right people. Also, if you want this for a long distance travel plane, maybe you do want to look at something else. This is a "sport plane". You would not want to travel across the US in a MG Midget would you? At least not on a regular basis. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- its an important issue I would not like to travel long distances in something with dimensions like a Cessna 150 at about 36". I guess I should have directed my question to Rand Robertson and not bothered all you busy ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:35:51 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: RE: KR> Hangers To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050316233551.36348.qmail@web31504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here in New Orleans they just built some T-hangars (42' by 28') at 1L0 and they rent for $295 per month. You might be able to squeeze 2 KR's in there but it would be tight. Ray --- "Wood, Sidney M." wrote: > New T hangars 41x32 at 2W6 St. Mary's County about > 50 miles southeast of Washington DC just outside the > ADIZ go for $350/month and end units for $380/month. > Box units 44x33 go for $600/month. There is about > a year waiting for all the above. Trailers may look > better every day, but you can get three KR's in the > 41x32 T without disturbing the wings. > Sid Wood > Tri-gear KR-2 N6242 > Mechanicsville, MD USA > Sidney.wood@titan.com > > It's easier and CHEAPER to build (or buy) an > enclosed trailer and tow the > thing to the airport. > > "Michael Moore is living proof to never trust anyone > who is bigger around > than tall!" > -------Original Message------- > > From: Joseph H. Horton > Date: 03/16/05 13:57:05 > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Hangers > > Guys, > I just got a call back from my first try at getting > into a hanger. If I > go in with this guy it is in a pretty new hanger at > the closest airport > to me (only 10 min). His cost is $350/month. My > split would be $175. I > think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little > higher than other areas. > Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more > than I wanted to > spend. The wife may have to give up her shoe > allowance;-) > > Joe Horton > joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 10:52:57 +1100 From: "Brian Dominick" Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dan,Thanks for your respected advise. As most people can least afford only one aircraft, the aircraft I wish to build needs to have reasonable performance and reasonable comfort, that's why I am still looking and asking questions. Thanks again Brian Dominick -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 10:29 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people You directed your questions to the right people. Also, if you want this for a long distance travel plane, maybe you do want to look at something else. This is a "sport plane". You would not want to travel across the US in a MG Midget would you? At least not on a regular basis. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- its an important issue I would not like to travel long distances in something with dimensions like a Cessna 150 at about 36". I guess I should have directed my question to Rand Robertson and not bothered all you busy _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:54:44 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I beg to differ with you on that Dan. Actually it is a matter of what you consider a long distance travel plane. I flew my KR 450 miles and then flew it home two days later. It was 4.3 hours there and 3.1 back. I made the same flight several times in a Cherokee and the KR was much more comfortable. I don't think I would have any problem at all flying a KR seven to eight hundred miles in a day with one fuel stop. A fast 2S and I would think nothing of a thousand miles in a day. Also depends on passengers. I wouldn't want to do 100 miles with a passenger. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:29 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people You directed your questions to the right people. Also, if you want this for a long distance travel plane, maybe you do want to look at something else. This is a "sport plane". You would not want to travel across the US in a MG Midget would you? At least not on a regular basis. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- its an important issue I would not like to travel long distances in something with dimensions like a Cessna 150 at about 36". I guess I should have directed my question to Rand Robertson and not bothered all you busy _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:10:02 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4238CADA.000022.01084@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" So noted. I guess, for me, it is because I like to get on the ground about every two hours. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- I beg to differ with you on that Dan. Actually it is a matter of what you consider a long distance travel plane. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:38:55 -0600 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: KR> Hangers To: "KR Builders Pilots" Message-ID: <004b01c52a89$b3527960$a624c944@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I keep my aircraft at Skylark Field which is the new name for the old Killeen Municipal airport in Killeen, Texas. The rent is $150.00 and I have been on the list for a hanger for about 5 months now. When I hear what the rent is in some of the towns around here I think it's cheap here and when and if I ever get a hanger I plan to share it with a friend who has a beautiful little KR2. My bird is a high wing and his is a low wing so I don't think we will have any trouble fiting them in. I came here from California when I retired for the second time and there was a waiting list then and still is. There is a very real need for more hangers here but the city councel chose to spend milions on the Golf course which is right next to the airport and zero on the airport. I have heard that a good many of the city councel members play golf but none of them fly. Do you guys think this fact might have something to do with what the money gets spent on?????????????????????????????? Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:23:35 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Hangers To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <02e501c52a8f$f2a00370$8200a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert L. Stone There is a very real need for more hangers here but the city councel chose to spend milions on the Golf course which is right next to the airport and zero on the airport. I have heard that a good many of the city councel members play golf but none of them fly. Do you guys think this fact might have something to do with what the money gets spent on?????????????????????????????? No Bob, all politicians are honest, aren't they ?????????????? But seriously, I live in rural Australia and I had to wait 7 months for hangerage at AUD 110 per month. There is talk of it doubling this year as there is 8 people waiting that I know of and the hanger owners are there to make money (they doesn't even have aircraft in there) The council keeps talking about making new hanger sites available but the cost may be to high for me and there has been no action yet, just talk. I'll consider trailering my KR2. I'll design/make different WAFs that fold, are faster to attach and can be done by one person. This is done on gliders all the time. Whats stopping me from doing it now: 1.. Time. 2.. Aceptable hangerage price. 3.. To much fun flying. YeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 1.2 yesterday afternoon just before last light. 4.. I have the idear 90% planned out in my head, that last 10% is blocking me. My idear is to make folding wing and single pin attachments that fit between the existing WAFs extending the wing gap by 2 to 3 inches. No mod's to existing wings or stubs, just a new, wider gap seal. Anyone want to pursue this with me contact me off line. Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:31:39 -0600 From: "Rod Beam" Subject: KR> Have started the sides To: Message-ID: <000c01c52a91$145b9d20$2b52f0d8@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, The info here is great! after getting my Kr2 plans and then the S supplement ordering the wood and building a table, doing a bunch of layouts, I'm happy to say the sides are beginning to take shape. I think the hardest part was the first cut jitters, but since that has passed i hope progress will continue in the right direction with the help and inspiration of all you all here. Thank You All. Rod Beam KR2S ( in the beginning) 414 W lincoln Harrisburg, IL 62946 ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:19:49 -0600 From: Mark Jones Subject: RE: KR> Hangers To: 'KRnet' Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549D927@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joe, That is average here in southeast Wisconsin area for a nice hanger with electricity. I could have gotten one about 8 miles from me for $179 per month but opted for a smaller airport 23 miles away for a hanger at $85 per month with no electricity. I am now on a waiting list at this same airport for a plot of land to build a hanger on. I am planning on building one large enough to house three or four planes and renting spaces out. May even make a small office in there with a cot. That way, if the wife ever puts me in the dog house, I can sleep with my plane. :-) -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Joseph H. Horton Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:54 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Hangers Guys, I just got a call back from my first try at getting into a hanger. If I go in with this guy it is in a pretty new hanger at the closest airport to me (only 10 min). His cost is $350/month. My split would be $175. I think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little higher than other areas. Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more than I wanted to spend. The wife may have to give up her shoe allowance;-) Joe Horton joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 20:00:52 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Hangers To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050316200052.0081f840@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" . His cost is $350/month. My split would be $175. I >think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little higher than other >areas. Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more than I wanted >to spend. Joe Horton +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Every area is going to be different to the extremes. I purchased a T hangar 7 years ago for $5000 and used it for approx 3 years and sold it for $5000. I purchased a larger end hanger for $7000 and it would hold the Tripacer, KR, and my 18 foot aircraft hauling trailer. Now the airport is talking about taking out the hangars to build an access road through that area to the local Wal-Mart! Like they can't drive around the airport to get there? My thought on trailering a KR to the airport each flight is that I think I'd rather drive an hour each way (or more) rather than remove and install the wings each time. Without special provisions (like folding wings) it just wouldn't happen for me. I don't even like the thought of pulling my wings this spring to repaint !! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:08:59 EST From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Have started the sides To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <11.414e52e9.2f6a40bb@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Ataboy!! Good to hear somebody getting a good start. Now - just dont stop till its airborne. Keep it simple - build everything ony once (unless safety is involved ) and you will be airborne in short order. Hope to see you at the gathering! Bill ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:16:30 EST From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Hangers To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I think that Larry has the best idea. Instead of trailering, it is better to have a longer drive to find an adequate hanger. Especially if you plan to do a lot of flying. I fly a lot because it is sitting there, all fueled up and ready to go most of the time. Today I did work on it a little bit. Installed my left nav light and stobe, defrost for the windshield, replaced EGT probe that had split, ran new strobe and nav wires for both wings, inspected cables and rudder pedal assy from previous ground loop incident, adjusted rudder cables and throw, worked on gear leg fairings and installed repaired and repainted wheel pant. That was a busy day - now to go to work. My point is this, if you have the plane in the trailer you may fly much less than you would if it were accessible. There is a tendancy to leave something alone when it is out of the way and takes some work to prepare. SUN N; FUN is just around the corner - who will be there? Bill Clapp ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:18:06 -0500 From: "robert glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Have started the sides To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <016e01c52a97$8e45e220$0c00000a@computer2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Way to go Rod,keep up the good work...Bob I think the hardest part was the first cut jitters, but since that has passed i hope progress will continue in the right direction with the help and inspiration of all you all here. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:19:40 -0500 From: "robert glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Hangers To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <017501c52a97$c68413a0$0c00000a@computer2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It's not a matter of if,but rather when she doe's!!!!!!!!!!! That way, if the wife ever puts me in the > dog house, I can sleep with my plane. :-) > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Joseph H. Horton > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:54 PM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Hangers > > > Guys, > I just got a call back from my first try at getting into a hanger. If > I go in with this guy it is in a pretty new hanger at the closest > airport to me (only 10 min). His cost is $350/month. My split would be > $175. I think that my area in southeast Pa. is a little higher than > other areas. Does this sound reasonable? It still is a lot more than I > wanted to spend. The wife may have to give up her shoe allowance;-) > > Joe Horton > joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:31:11 -0500 From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: Re: KR> Fit two people To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <25320-4238EBEF-7686@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Hi, all; Regarding the width of the KR2s....mine, built to plans, is 38" at the shoulders. Paul '2s....primed, working on baffles Erie' PA ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 2:50:14 +0000 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: KR> Sun-n-fun Roll call To: KRnet Message-ID: <3rr3lu$kdcdng@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill Wrote: > SUN N; FUN is just around the corner - who will be there? > > Bill Clapp I will be driving down interstate 75 on thursday morning. Camping, and leaving Sunday. Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:52:01 EST From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Sun-n-fun Roll call To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <142.41a3bfb7.2f6a4ad1@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Be sure to stop in - unless I beat you there - I p[lan to stay all week! How the plane? Bill ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:00:10 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Fit two people To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009801c52a9d$76fab0e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Staggered Seats? That way your shoulder does not press against the passenger. Hmmmmm, seems this was all discussed in length before. As a matter of fact, with all of the new folks showing up on the KR Net, it seems a lot of topics are surfacing again. I am very thankful that there are new members constantly joining the KR family. It only says one thing and that is we have a terrific bird. You new guys do not forget that the KR Net has searchable archives where you can gather a wealth of information. Here is the link if you do not have it: http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ Mark Jones (N886MJ) Soon to soaring with the Eagles. Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:31 PM Subject: Re: KR> Fit two people > Hi, all; > Regarding the width of the KR2s....mine, built to plans, is 38" at the > shoulders. > > Paul > '2s....primed, working on baffles > Erie' PA > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:52:33 -0500 From: "robert glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Fit two people To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <01b101c52a9c$5f0ed700$0c00000a@computer2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Living in the midwest,I checked the archives on the subject about putting ski's on a KR,but not sure what it would take or if it would be practicle...This year I would have needed floats more... You new guys do not forget that the KR Net has > searchable archives where you can gather a wealth of information. Here > is the link if you do not have it: > http://www.escribe.com/aviation/krnet/ > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:07:02 -0600 From: "Bubba" Subject: Re: KR> Fit two people To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <03ee01c52a9e$64b72250$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ronald Metcalf wrote: > > You will find that most established KR builders become highly > suspicious of anyone asking questiuons that suggest that they have not > purchased plans yet. Kind of makes it tough to decide what to build, doesn't it? -- Steve N205FT mysticz28@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:22:04 -0800 (PST) From: William Jeffries Subject: Re: KR> Have started the sides To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050317032204.43561.qmail@web90109.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Rod, Congradulations are in order. No plane has ever been built without a plan. Good to here that construction has started. I'll be starting my 4'x16' bench next week as time allows. It will come in handy also as I need to build spars for another aircraft I own. Keep us posted on your progress as I'm going to be on the same journey as you shortly. Bill Jeffries, Renwick Iowa <>< __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:26:19 EST From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: KR> main spars anyone? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am looking for a set (2) main outboard spars if anybody has a pair for sale. I dont care if they are kr2 or 2S...Just well built. I dont need the center spars at all. If rear spars are also avaiable that would be okay. I have a project in mind for this next year/ I dont have plans or a table to build them. If I dont find any and somebody would be interested in building me a pair - let me know. Thanks Bill Clapp ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 22:27:40 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I guess in your case a long cross country plane is a 737. :-) Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:10 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: RE: KR> Fit two people So noted. I guess, for me, it is because I like to get on the ground about every two hours. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- I beg to differ with you on that Dan. Actually it is a matter of what you consider a long distance travel plane. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:44:26 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> Re: CorvAircraft> data logging To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" , "KRnet" Cc: GregT@GRTavionics.com Message-ID: <002101c52aa3$9e094290$2802a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dave Morris wrote: > Kewl! Is that EIS output a standard RS-232 signal that you just read > into Excel through the COM port? You think THAT was cool, EIS data logging just told me what my problem is that I've been having for months! Check out http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/eis_runs/ . #2 cylinder is just plain dropping off line at anything much over idle! My guess is sparkplug breakdown, but shear conjecture will be entertained. An EIS would be a valuable addition to WW's engine dyno/test stand, and I consider it (or something similar) indispensible in the panel. I called GRT today myself, and got the same word as Dan. I'll put a potentiometer on mine and dial it up till it's steady, and then let everybody know what it takes. The weather really stinks for the next few days though, so somebody else is welcome to beat me to it. You should've seen me looking like the Michelin man (several layers of clothes) in the cockpit trying to read the laptop, with no canopy installed. The canopy is connected to the forward deck, which was removed so I could goof around with stuff like thermocouple leads. I looked like a cold wet dog when it was over. I can tell you that P/R of 3, 5, 6, or 8 don't work on my engine. Actually, I've tried them all. Maybe with a new resistance value it'll do better. I have a Tiny Tach that I finally bludgeoned into working correctly by shielding the lead with grounded aluminum foil, validated by an optical prop tach, so I know the EIS is wrong now. The data run shown above peaked at 2700 rpm, but EIS showed 2200, if your mind is capable of instantaeous averaging, but then I was back to my "closest yet" P/R of 5. Other than that, I love the EIS! A nice improvement would be a USB port in place of the laptop though, so my memory stick could do that work with no user input or laptop required... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 108 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================