From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 125 Date: 3/26/2005 9:00:16 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Web Page Update (Mark Jones) 2. Re: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Lyracw@wmconnect.com) 3. Re: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Mark Jones) 4. RE: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Steve Glover) 5. Re: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Lyracw@wmconnect.com) 6. Re: Web Page Update (Orma) 7. Fuselage (ronevogt@cox.net) 8. filler removal (Brian Kraut) 9. Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for details (Bill Sadler) 10. Propellor decals (Mac McConnell-Wood) 11. Re: Fuselage (Aerian71@aol.com) 12. Second Flight Report (Mark Jones) 13. Re: Second Flight Report (William Jeffries) 14. Re: Tweety update (Ron Eason) 15. Re: Second Flight Report (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 16. Bad Spelling (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 17. Web Page Update/fuel pumps (larry flesner) 18. Re: Fuselage (N667HU@aol.com) 19. Re: Web Page Update/fuel pumps (Mark Jones) 20. VW woes,,,, (Lee Van Dyke) 21. Re: Second Flight Report (jeffyork40@qx.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 07:24:55 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Web Page Update To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <003701c53207$3a0827a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, I have just updated my Dual Fuel Pump web page from when I made the conversion back in December. Here is the link: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/fuelpump.html Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:07:54 EST From: Lyracw@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <27.6ed0b099.2f76c6ba@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I read you email about barnstomers but could not get thru, I am interestes in a KR-2S and would like toget thru to barnstomers.com but that must be the wrong email address please let me know Thank Caryl ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 08:14:54 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006201c5320e$339a2c40$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You spelled it wrong. It is www.barnstormers.com Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:07 AM Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... > I read you email about barnstomers but could not get thru, I am > interestes in a KR-2S and would like toget thru to barnstomers.com > but that must be the > wrong email address please let me know Thank Caryl > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 06:16:47 -0800 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just in Case anyone else didn't get it... Sorry for the bad link http://www.barnstormers.com Then go "Browse" then to "Experimental". Steve > I read you email about barnstomers but could not get thru, I am > interestes in a KR-2S and would like toget thru to barnstomers.com but that must be the wrong email address please let me know Thank Caryl ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:18:49 EST From: Lyracw@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" thanks steve, caryl ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:41:03 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <03d701c53211$d6fdb070$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Mark Good Job, Looks professional. Orma ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:14:13 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Fuselage To: Message-ID: <20050326171413.JVWS2123.fed1rmmtao10.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Netters; For those of you interested in the 2S fuselage that I have for sale: 1) It is located in southern California. 2) If is made of spruce and is a skeleton...no skin applied. 3) On April 15th the price does down to $100. 4) If it isn't sold by the end of April, it gets busted up for kindling. I know that sounds like a waste, but I can't store it any longer. RV ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:14:21 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> filler removal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Would anyone know what to use to disolve some body filler on aluminum. I have some that I need to remove and I can't sand without hitting the aluminum. It may be polyester (Bondo) and it may be epoxy and microbaloons or some other type of aircraft filler. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 10:51:10 -0800 From: "Bill Sadler" Subject: KR> Fw: Returned mail: see transcript for details To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006d01c53234$c7476400$a18fd742@yourw04gtxld67> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" RV posted KR2 fuselage for sale any cables tail feathers plans let me know details Thanks Bill > The original message was received at Sat, 26 Mar 2005 13:01:30 -0500 > from mxip12a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.142] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > (reason: 550 Invalid recipient: ) > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... while talking to mx.west.cox.net.: >>>> DATA > <<< 550 Invalid recipient: > 550 5.1.1 ... User unknown > <<< 503 No recipients specified > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:03:04 +0000 From: "Mac McConnell-Wood" Subject: KR> Propellor decals To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Has anyone assessed the effect of makers stuck-on decals on prop efficiency? Regards Mac _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 14:15:01 EST From: Aerian71@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <15a.4d62469e.2f770eb5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Yes it is crazy !!!! Where in so CAL R U located,,, Andy Aerian71@aol.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:02:52 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Second Flight Report To: "KR Net" , "Corvaircraft" Message-ID: <003a01c5324f$949dc560$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Today, I flew exactly one hour on my KR. Again the flight was more than perfect. Outside temp was 44° and no winds with a ceiling of 12,000'. Again, I had full tanks (10 gallons in each wing). After completion of the flight, I measured the fuel burn at 5.5 gallons per hour. My maximum altitude during this flight was 5,000' with a lot of cruising at 4,000'. I did a lot of steep turns both left and right and she would hold altitude with no efforts. Again, I flew hands off in straight and level flight with no variations from where I let go of the stick. I was hands off for almost 10 seconds!!!. On initial climb at take off I held the airspeed at 100 mph, rpm was 2500, oil temp was 190°, oil psi was 40, exhaust temp was 1200° and CHT was 280°. I did three high speed passes down the runway at approximately 100'. During the dive to the airport, I obtained a speed of 175 mph, level over the runway 160 mph and when I pulled out she climbed like a homesick angel. At 4,000' and cruise at WOT, I achieved 150 mph at 2750 rpm, oil temp 190°, oil psi 40, exhaust temp 1100, and cht temp 260°. I am very pleased at how this KR handles with no surprises so far and also with the engine running as smooth as I could expect being it was the first engine I have ever completely built. The only thing is that I firmly believe I have too much prop and that I should be able to get better top end performance with maybe a 52 x 50. I have one that I will be testing soon but for now, I just want to enjoy flying for a while. I took off this Monday and will be putting several hours on the plane. More reports coming soon!!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:07:12 -0800 (PST) From: William Jeffries Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050326230712.37078.qmail@web90106.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mark, What a fantastic report! You should be very proud, keep the reports coming. It stirs the desire in me to build. Bill Jeffries --- Mark Jones wrote: > Today, I flew exactly one hour on my KR. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:28:22 -0600 From: "Ron Eason" Subject: Re: KR> Tweety update To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002601c53263$e2cc5440$6701a8c0@CADENGINEERING> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I am glad to hear the good news and about how the turbo plumbed with the dual pump. Thanks for the update. Keep us informed as to how thing are progressing. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:31 PM Subject: Re: KR> Tweety update > Hello Ron > > First of all, type2 and type 4 parts are mostly interchangeable. The > Vanagon automatic, utilizes a piggy back dual oil pump to provide > pressure to the transmission. It is this pump that I am using for the > turbo scavenge pump. The suction side of the pump is connected to the > turbo oil return, and the pressure side of the pump is connected to > the side of the engine case at the oil sump. Please see > http://kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/Turbo%20Oil%20Leak.htm The pump sucks > hot frothy turbo return oil and passes it under pressure back into the > engine case. The turbo oil supply is taken from the top of the original > oil > cooler boss and is routed directly to the top of the turbo. The Ford > engine > that this turbo is applicable for has a requirement for 50 psi. That > being > said, the turbo is getting what ford required. The pump is two pumps > driven by a common shaft that is turned by a slot in the cam gear. Both > pumps are completely separate, each with it's own inlet and outlets. > > Was it worth it? Even though the dust has not settled yet, I can tell > that > I have a lotttt more power. The difference is like night and day. My > pervious top speed was 129 kts. I have exceeded that in the pattern at > PTK, > seeing 135 kts. My climb was always around 500 fpm ( my KR was over 615 > lbs). On a calm day I can now do over 1000 fpm. Your short answer is > YES. > It brings back that YeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaa feeling. It takes the Hum out of > Hum Drum and leaves the Drum with a quickened beat. > > Orma > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:04:22 -0600 From: Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000a01c53268$e9f8a020$af579445@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Comratulatipns, Mark. I wish you many more happy flights. Ray Goree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" ; "Corvaircraft" Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: KR> Second Flight Report Today, I flew exactly one hour on my KR. Again the flight was more than perfect. Outside temp was 44° and no winds with a ceiling of 12,000'. Again, I had full tanks (10 gallons in each wing). After completion of the flight, I measured the fuel burn at 5.5 gallons per hour. My maximum altitude during this flight was 5,000' with a lot of cruising at 4,000'. I did a lot of steep turns both left and right and she would hold altitude with no efforts. Again, I flew hands off in straight and level flight with no variations from where I let go of the stick. I was hands off for almost 10 seconds!!!. On initial climb at take off I held the airspeed at 100 mph, rpm was 2500, oil temp was 190°, oil psi was 40, exhaust temp was 1200° and CHT was 280°. I did three high speed passes down the runway at approximately 100'. During the dive to the airport, I obtained a speed of 175 mph, level over the runway 160 mph and when I pulled out she climbed like a homesick angel. At 4,000' and cruise at WOT, I achieved 150 mph at 2750 rpm, oil temp 190°, oil psi 40, exhaust temp 1100, and cht temp 260°. I am very pleased at how this KR handles with no surprises so far and also with the engine running as smooth as I could expect being it was the first engine I have ever completely built. The only thing is that I firmly believe I have too much prop and that I should be able to get better top end performance with maybe a 52 x 50. I have one that I will be testing soon but for now, I just want to enjoy flying for a while. I took off this Monday and will be putting several hours on the plane. More reports coming soon!!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 19:26:43 -0600 From: Subject: KR> Bad Spelling To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003e01c5326c$093dd0b0$af579445@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" KR Netters, I apologize for the E-mail just sent to Mark Jones, congratulating him on another great flight. It was not intended to be sent over the net. Yes, I can spell better than that, (when I check my spelling) Ray Goree 817-795-4779 ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:51:09 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Web Page Update/fuel pumps To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050326205109.00802100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Netters, >I have just updated my Dual Fuel Pump web page from when I made the conversion back in December. Here is the link: >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/fuelpump.html >Mark Jones ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the picture of the dual pump setup, on the far right hand side, where the two fuel lines cross, there is a tie-wrap that appears to be holding the two fuel lines together. If that is the setup, I'd suggest a short piece of rubber hose over one line and then secure. You don't want the two bare lines contacting each other. Airframe vibration could eventually cause a problem. Congratulations on the second flight! It won't be long now and the "pucker" will subside to the point that you can grin without creating stretch markes on your bottom side ! :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:53:55 EST From: N667HU@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hey RV, I am interested in your fuse. Any chance of getting some pictures of it?? I am up in Cottage Grove, Oregon. how wide is the Fuselage. thanks Larry ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:37:20 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Web Page Update/fuel pumps To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008301c5327e$4ded69c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes Larry, the two lines are contacting each other and I had already planned on putting a rubber spacer in between them. Thanks for reminding me to do it. I will get the spacer put there next time I am at the airport. Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: KR> Web Page Update/fuel pumps > > >Netters, > >I have just updated my Dual Fuel Pump web page from when I made the > conversion back in December. Here is the link: > >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/fuelpump.html > >Mark Jones > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > In the picture of the dual pump setup, on the far right hand side, > where the two fuel lines cross, there is a tie-wrap that appears > to be holding the two fuel lines together. If that is the setup, I'd > suggest a short piece of rubber hose over one line and then > secure. You don't want the two bare lines contacting each > other. Airframe vibration could eventually cause a problem. > > Congratulations on the second flight! It won't be long now and > the "pucker" will subside to the point that you can grin without > creating stretch markes on your bottom side ! :-) > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:41:11 -0700 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: KR> VW woes,,,, To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <013c01c53287$33cc06b0$7201a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, I am one frustrated individual. The list of people on this site who have helped me before is very long. As some of you know, or at this time most of you know that I have an older KR, built 20 years ago. The plane has not flown or for that matter been assembled in 18 years. Well it is at the airport and now that I have a new Starter from Great planes, it appears that it still does not want to run. The history of the motor is that I received the motor 1 1/2 years ago, fully rebuilt. I have kept it well oiled during that time. Now for the problem. Those of you with a VW will probably be the best people to help me. The motor has a mag and elec. ign. The Mag has been timed per G/P and the VW manual. The mag clicks a TDC. The #1 plug was removed and there is a spark, weak but a spark. The plugs have been tested by the local A & P and are all good. Our thought was fuel, so we adjusted the carb to rich. One maybe two pops on the motor. We put fuel directly into the cylinders, and nothing. We tried Ether into the intake. Noting. Now the bad news. I do have posa carb. I know people can't get to idle, but I can't get it to start. I pulled the mag off the plane and will run it past the A&P on Monday. Do any of you have any ideas? Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:49:33 -0500 From: Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c53288$70928a00$6401a8c0@server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Way to go. Maybe I can get things in order and soon be back in the air Jeff York N839BG http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" ; "Corvaircraft" Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: KR> Second Flight Report Today, I flew exactly one hour on my KR. Again the flight was more than perfect. Outside temp was 44° and no winds with a ceiling of 12,000'. Again, I had full tanks (10 gallons in each wing). After completion of the flight, I measured the fuel burn at 5.5 gallons per hour. My maximum altitude during this flight was 5,000' with a lot of cruising at 4,000'. I did a lot of steep turns both left and right and she would hold altitude with no efforts. Again, I flew hands off in straight and level flight with no variations from where I let go of the stick. I was hands off for almost 10 seconds!!!. On initial climb at take off I held the airspeed at 100 mph, rpm was 2500, oil temp was 190°, oil psi was 40, exhaust temp was 1200° and CHT was 280°. I did three high speed passes down the runway at approximately 100'. During the dive to the airport, I obtained a speed of 175 mph, level over the runway 160 mph and when I pulled out she climbed like a homesick angel. At 4,000' and cruise at WOT, I achieved 150 mph at 2750 rpm, oil temp 190°, oil psi 40, exhaust temp 1100, and cht temp 260°. I am very pleased at how this KR handles with no surprises so far and also with the engine running as smooth as I could expect being it was the first engine I have ever completely built. The only thing is that I firmly believe I have too much prop and that I should be able to get better top end performance with maybe a 52 x 50. I have one that I will be testing soon but for now, I just want to enjoy flying for a while. I took off this Monday and will be putting several hours on the plane. More reports coming soon!!!! Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 125 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================