From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 126 Date: 3/27/2005 8:24:17 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. VW Woes (ronevogt@cox.net) 2. Re: VW woes,,,, (Glynnis Young) 3. Re: VW woes,,,, (Glasseyegav) 4. engine woes (Don Chisholm) 5. Re: filler removal (Fritz) 6. RE: VW Woes (Brian Kraut) 7. RE: filler removal (Brian Kraut) 8. Flight report --- I wish. (Dan Heath) 9. Re: filler removal (Brant Hollensbe) 10. Re: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Lyracw@wmconnect.com) 11. Re: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Lyracw@wmconnect.com) 12. Re: VW woes,,,, (phillip matheson) 13. Ignition (Colin & Bev Rainey) 14. engine woes (Don Chisholm) 15. KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (rhartwig11@juno.com) 16. KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (rhartwig11@juno.com) 17. RE: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Ron Freiberger) 18. Re: Second Flight Report (Mark Langford) 19. Re: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Robert L. Stone) 20. Re: KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... (Robert L. Stone) 21. Re: Second Flight Report (Ray Fuenzalida) 22. RE: Ignition (Brian Kraut) 23. Re: filler removal (Orma) 24. RE: Second Flight Report (Brian Kraut) 25. Re: Second Flight Report (Mark Jones) 26. Re: Second Flight Report (Orma) 27. Re: Second Flight Report (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 0:23:41 -0500 From: Subject: KR> VW Woes To: Message-ID: <20050327052340.CADF22013.fed1rmmtao11.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You mentioned a weak spark. That may very well be the problem. You should see a bright blue spark. RV ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 06:40:00 +0100 (BST) From: Glynnis Young Subject: Re: KR> VW woes,,,, To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050327054000.91447.qmail@web86903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The mag clicks a TDC. The #1 plug was removed and there is a spark, weak but a spark. A long shot here Lee, but worth mentioning - make sure that you are the correct TDC. Remember that this is a 4 cycle engine and thus has two TDC's on each pot. Check that both valves are closed on the TDC when the mag fires (both tappets loose). We ruined an entire weekend with exactly this (on a VW) - figured it out just as the sun was setting on the last day Good luck Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:32:27 +1000 From: "Glasseyegav" Subject: Re: KR> VW woes,,,, To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001001c5329f$205bc080$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It may be firing at TDC but is it on the compression stroke or the exhaust stroke?? I would be easy to make this simple mistake. You need to put your finger over the plug hole while turning it to TDC, so you can feel compression. If you don't feel any its on the exhaust stroke. Gav ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Van Dyke" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: KR> VW woes,,,, > Netters, > > I am one frustrated individual. The list of people on this site who > have helped me before is very long. As some of you know, or at this time most of you know that I have an older KR, built 20 years ago. The plane has not flown or for that matter been assembled in 18 years. Well it is at the airport and now that I have a new Starter from Great planes, it appears that it still does not want to run. The history of the motor is that I received the motor 1 1/2 years ago, fully rebuilt. I have kept it well oiled during that time. Now for the problem. Those of you with a VW will probably be the best people to help me. The motor has a mag and elec. ign. The Mag has been timed per G/P and the VW manual. The mag clicks a TDC. The #1 plug was removed and there is a spark, weak but a spark. The plugs have been tested by the local A & P and are all good. Our thought was fuel, so we adjusted the carb to rich. One maybe two pops on the motor. We put fuel directly into the cylinders, and nothing. We tried Ether into the intake. Noting. Now the bad news. I do have posa carb. I know people can't get to idle, but I can't get it to start. I pulled the mag off the plane and will run it past the A&P on Monday. Do any of you have any ideas? > > Lee Van Dyke > Mesa AZ > Lee@vandyke5.com > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.3 - Release Date: 25/03/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 07:26:52 -0500 (EST) From: Don Chisholm Subject: KR> engine woes To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050327122652.59243.qmail@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I know how you feel, I've been there and ended up killing my engine by getting P.O.d and starting it with quick start. you probably have two problems, the first is timing the second is starting proceedure because it'll run with the POSA. I'm assuming you have a Slick mag. just trying to time with the pin is not accurate enough you need a buzzer or multimeter to dial it in with and the timing is set to 28 degrees before top dead center on #1 cylinder. secondly when you go to start with the POSA it'll flood so easy, on my engine if I haven't got it started by second blade pullthrough I have to clear the engine and start over again. my proceedure is to turn the fuel on then turn it off switch my ignition on and pull the prop through it should catch by second blade using this proceedure as to your spark if you have one it means your ignition is working, it really doesn't look like much igniting a proper fuel air mixture doesn't take much. fuel to run in an engine is actually a precise formula blended to ignite in a controlled sequence and not explode( that's detonation) and the spark just starts the sequence off. I'll send you an article I have off line out of an old kitplanes magazine written by Richard Kunc about mag timing that will walk you through, it's very easy aword of warning though if you're hand propping though make sure you got your timing set up because you can't get your hand out of the way fast enough if it kicks back and it hurts just ask me Don Chisholm ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:06:30 -0500 From: "Fritz" Subject: Re: KR> filler removal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009a01c532e6$f5668250$01fea8c0@MillFritz> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I've been around Bondo since it came out about 1951,the only time it seems to soften is when it's oil soaked,except I don't know how long it takes. Fritz----KR-2 in Pa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: KR> filler removal > Would anyone know what to use to disolve some body filler on aluminum. > I have some that I need to remove and I can't sand without hitting the > aluminum. It may be polyester (Bondo) and it may be epoxy and > microbaloons or some other type of aircraft filler. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:56:28 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> VW Woes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That is a hard one to call. Looking at it in the day time it will always look weak. You do need to make sure that if you have the standard G.P. electronic ignition that you have it turned off during starting. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of ronevogt@cox.net Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:24 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> VW Woes You mentioned a weak spark. That may very well be the problem. You should see a bright blue spark. RV _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:56:33 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> filler removal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I don't know what kind of filler it was, but paint remover took it right off. Very surprisingly it took off some epoxy blobs I had also. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Fritz Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 11:07 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> filler removal I've been around Bondo since it came out about 1951,the only time it seems to soften is when it's oil soaked,except I don't know how long it takes. Fritz----KR-2 in Pa. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: KR> filler removal > Would anyone know what to use to disolve some body filler on aluminum. > I have some that I need to remove and I can't sand without hitting the > aluminum. It may be polyester (Bondo) and it may be epoxy and > microbaloons or some other type of aircraft filler. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:56:04 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Flight report --- I wish. To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <4246F3B4.000007.03360@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a good start on the baffling thanks to Lee Van Dyke for his pics and GPASC for the templates. If you want to see progress so far, click here... http://kr-builder org/FirewallForward/Baffeling/index.html See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 13:40:29 -0600 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: Re: KR> filler removal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000c01c53304$d55db0a0$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Brian, Some of our paint removers use Methyl Chloride as its active chemical. It will soften or remove paint and hardened resins too. Methyl Chloride is absorbed through the skin, so wear gloves to protect yourself. Brant Hollensbe Bhollensbe@mchsi.com DSM Ia. > Well, I don't know what kind of filler it was, but paint remover took > it > right off. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:44:48 EST From: Lyracw@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1e6.3840fcc4.2f786730@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Steve: I have tried everything i can think of to get to barnstormes and see that new Kr2 that is almost done I sure would like to see a picture of it and how I can talk to or email the person that has it I would appreciate a note back Thank You Caryl ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:47:01 EST From: Lyracw@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <76.4fcfc688.2f7867b5@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I did all of the searchs listed and still not getting anywhere thank You Caryl ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:21:36 +1000 From: "phillip matheson" Subject: Re: KR> VW woes,,,, To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009201c53312$f5b0f4d0$46a4443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Lee It Can only ? be spark or fuel, Check Compression, and Compression stroke, No 1 and timing BEFORE TDC. Even if Carby is crook, it should FIRE with fuel in the plug holes.it the above is wright. Good luck Phil Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:31:28 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Ignition To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005301c53314$567ea4f0$9c402141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Air fuel mixtures are not easy to light off in a cylinder, that is why the gap is so important. You can get the spark to jump across nearly 1/2" of open uncompressed air, when just holding a grounded plug. But put that same plug into the engine with just twice its recommended gap, and it will not fire the mix at all, or will run very badly if it does run. The compression is not for lighting the fuel as in a diesel, but for speeding the burn rate without exploding it, so that reasonable work can be gotten out of the engine, and to make an air pump become self supporting. Notice the same job is performed by an electric air compressor, just for a different purpose: filling a tank with compressed air, not turning a drive shaft. Suggestion: you have added fuel, including starter fluid. No start. That is first basic element of running. Second: you have checked for the presence of spark, and you have one, weak but have one. That is second basic element. Third: you have not reported what your compression is? You need to check that. If compression is low, all else can be perfect and still no run. That is the third basic element of all combustion engines. Without those 3 all else does not matter! If the plugs are wet, and you have good compression, you know that you have fuel, and proper compression. Do the compression test the auto check way, not aviation way. Spin the engine to observe peak compression on a fresh battery with at least 3 compression strokes (needle jumps 3 times) to show peak compression running. If you do not get at least 85 to 90 pounds on a standard auto compression gauge, then you have a problem, stop wasting time trying to make a low compression engine run, and get the engine compression right. Either your valve timing is off (was off from assembly) or age has gotten to your cylinders, and they need work to reseal them. All a 4 cylinder needs is 2 weak cylinders to prevent running. This is an auto engine so all your specs will be in auto terms. If this compression is good, then check the valve timing to see where the cylinder is (you can use the compression gauge again to know that compression is beginning, to line up mag timing). While approaching TDC on exhaust stroke the exhaust valve will still be open so no compression growing. Do this by hand smoothly and you will see it start in plenty of time to know TDC compression. Jim Faughn has a very good instruction page on setting your mag timing on his sight, go to krnet.org, scroll down to Jim's page and look for timing engine. Tells you all you need to properly time mag. Colin & Beverly Rainey Apex Lending, Inc. 407-323-6960 (p) 407-557-3260 (f) www.eloan2004cr.com crainey@apexlending.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 17:19:45 -0500 (EST) From: Don Chisholm Subject: KR> engine woes To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050327221945.66344.qmail@web88004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A real simple way to check compression is to pull your prop through on all four compression strokes you'll have a pretty good idea about how your compression is just by doing that and will know the differences between cylinders. Try the simple things first because 9 times out of 10 that's where problems lie, then get technical Don C ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 16:37:50 -0600 From: rhartwig11@juno.com Subject: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050327.163750.3472.1.rhartwig11@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "I have tried everything i can think of to get to barnstormes" Caryl, Barnstormers website seems to be down for awhile. Keep trying to use the link, eventually they'll be back up.: http://www.barnstormers.com/. If you type it in, make sure it is spelled correctly--you are leaving out the last "r" (between the "e" and the "s") in your messages. Dick H ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:20:10 -0600 From: rhartwig11@juno.com Subject: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050327.192010.1840.0.rhartwig11@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Caryl, Barnstormers is up and running. Click on: http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php?mode=search Dick H. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:22:25 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: RE: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000b01c53334$9d160870$6400a8c0@Disorganized> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Rhartwig said; "I have tried everything i can think of to get to barnstormes" You're spelling BARNSTORMERS wrong ;o) Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net  ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:35:25 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00cc01c53336$6ac2f7a0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark Jones sent me a video of him flying his plane last weekend for the first time, taken by Joe Weber. I was fairly amazed to see snow everywhere (he wasn't kidding about that) and Mark blasting down the runway taking off anyway. I cracked up when Mark, as soon as he got about 50 feet off the ground, lets out this big YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! over the radio, as heard by Joe's handheld radio. Inspirational, indeed... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:53:59 -0600 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <015401c53341$641d4da0$a624c944@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original When the window comes up select the bottom icon and click on it and the add for the KR2 will be there. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 7:22 PM Subject: RE: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... Rhartwig said; "I have tried everything i can think of to get to barnstormes" You're spelling BARNSTORMERS wrong ;o) Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:02:47 -0600 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <016501c53342$9ed3b5a0$a624c944@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original KI could not get the Barnstormers add to attach so here it is CUT AND PASTED, I tried to get the pictures but could not copy them. KR2S FOR SALE . $15,500 . NO REASONABLE OFFER REFUSED . KR2S+, Always hangared. 140+ hours flying time. C-GHZO Canadian Registered A/C.691lbs. 980 gross. Electric start. Ailerones & elevator balanced ( have had it to 204 mph in shallow dive no flutter),3200rpm-160mph,3000rpm-140mph,2700rpm-130mph, VFR instruments, 2100D Revmaster Engine 75HP, Serial # 2913, Heads done for lowlead, Props Inc. 55x45, ELT Ameri-king AK-450, Cessna nav lights, Cessna pedals, Center stick, Grove gear, Cleveland wheels 5",axles, disc (toe) brakes, Trade for Harley or. Medical issues. Must vacate friends hangar. Have more pics at Ofoto. which have good detail. Located 8 miles north of the Idaho/Canada border. phone evenings . Contact Albert J. Friesen - located Creston, BC Canada . Telephone: 250-428-8486 . Posted March 24, 2005 . Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser . Recommend This Ad to a Friend . Send a Message ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Freiberger" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 7:22 PM Subject: RE: KR> KR2 For Sale on Barnstormers... Rhartwig said; "I have tried everything i can think of to get to barnstormes" You're spelling BARNSTORMERS wrong ;o) Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:13:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Fuenzalida Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050328031322.50147.qmail@web31513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Make sure that you bring that to the Gathering. There is no better inspiration. Ray --- Mark Langford wrote: > Mark Jones sent me a video of him flying his plane > last weekend for the > first time, taken by Joe Weber. I was fairly amazed > to see snow everywhere > (he wasn't kidding about that) and Mark blasting > down the runway taking off > anyway. I cracked up when Mark, as soon as he got > about 50 feet off the > ground, lets out this big > YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! over the radio, as > heard by Joe's handheld radio. Inspirational, > indeed... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:43:32 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Ignition To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There is one very simple and basic way to make sure your timing is on the right stroke, the right cylinder, and pretty much the right place all at once. This is a quick and dirty way to do it so I don't want to take away from those that told you the more correct way. Remove three of the four spark plugs so you will only get compression on one cylinder. remove that spark plug wire and hold the end near the engine block so you can get a spark that you can see. With only one cylinder with a spark plug it is extremely easy to tell when the cylinder is coming up on the compression stroke. Just turn the engine by the prop in the normal direction until you feel the compression. You won't feel the compression on the strokes of the other three cylinders without the plugs installed. go slowly until you hear the impulse coupling snap and see if you got a spark on that wire. You can also tell by feel when you are pretty close to TDC this way. Obviously if you are getting compression and no spark there is something screwy with your timing. Try the other three plug wires and see which is firing. You can also pretty well tell if the timing is near correct by putting a pen in the plug hole of any cylinder without a plug and turning the engine. Hold the pen against the cylinder and you can pretty much feel where TDC is. Your impulse coupling should fire there. This is not as accurate as a timing buzz box, but I start this way and am usually not more than two or three degrees off when I put the buzz box on. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:47:45 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> filler removal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006701c53348$e7f76820$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Heat works Orma ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:48:45 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Second Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gathering? We need a clip on your web site. The KR world has waited long enough for this one. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ray Fuenzalida Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:13 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report Make sure that you bring that to the Gathering. There is no better inspiration. Ray --- Mark Langford wrote: > Mark Jones sent me a video of him flying his plane > last weekend for the > first time, taken by Joe Weber. I was fairly amazed > to see snow everywhere > (he wasn't kidding about that) and Mark blasting > down the runway taking off > anyway. I cracked up when Mark, as soon as he got > about 50 feet off the > ground, lets out this big > YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! over the radio, as > heard by Joe's handheld radio. Inspirational, > indeed... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:59:31 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00f801c5334a$90b366c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If I had the equipment to do a mpg it would already be there. Anyone out there who can mpg it from a VHS tape let me know and I will send you one. Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:48 PM Subject: RE: KR> Second Flight Report > Gathering? We need a clip on your web site. The KR world has waited > long enough for this one. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Ray Fuenzalida > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:13 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report > > > Make sure that you bring that to the Gathering. There > is no better inspiration. > Ray > > --- Mark Langford wrote: > > Mark Jones sent me a video of him flying his plane > > last weekend for the > > first time, taken by Joe Weber. I was fairly amazed > > to see snow everywhere > > (he wasn't kidding about that) and Mark blasting > > down the runway taking off > > anyway. I cracked up when Mark, as soon as he got > > about 50 feet off the > > ground, lets out this big > > YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! over the radio, as > > heard by Joe's handheld radio. Inspirational, > > indeed... > > > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > > see KR2S project N56ML at > > http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:15:47 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00af01c5334c$d25e1780$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark I have a digital converter that will do the job. Orma L.. Robbins 24836 Gleneyrie Dr. Southfield, MI 48034-6449 ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:23:21 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010401c5334d$e533c200$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ok, I will put the tap in the mail Tuesday priority mail. Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:15 PM Subject: Re: KR> Second Flight Report > Mark > I have a digital converter that will do the job. > > Orma L.. Robbins > 24836 Gleneyrie Dr. > Southfield, MI 48034-6449 > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 126 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================