From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 134 Date: 4/2/2005 7:49:20 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Video of First Flight (Dana Overall) 2. Sound (Colin & Bev Rainey) 3. Sound (Orma) 4. RE: Video of First Flight (paulwasp@webtv.net) 5. Re: First Flight (paulwasp@webtv.net) 6. Re: Video of First Flight (Mark Jones) 7. Re: Sound (Mark Jones) 8. Pre Flight (Mark Jones) 9. Re: Sound (Martha Crawford) 10. Re: Sound (Orma) 11. Re: Sound (Martha Crawford) 12. Re: KR-2 for sale (Lyracw@wmconnect.com) 13. Wynne Assembly Plant (Colin & Bev Rainey) 14. prop changes (Brian Kraut) 15. RE: Wynne Assembly Plant (Brian Kraut) 16. Re: prop changes (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 17. Re: Wynne Assembly Plant and YYYYEEEEHHHHAAAA ! (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 18. RE: prop changes (Brian Kraut) 19. Re: Wynne Assembly Plant and YYYYEEEEHHHHAAAA ! (Mark Jones) 20. Re: Wynne Assembly Plant and YYYYEEEEHHHHAAAA ! (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 21. video? (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 22. Re: Looking at the list (BABYWOLF@aol.com) 23. Yahoo! Photos - My KR2 S Project (Glasseyegav) 24. Changes in General (Ron Freiberger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 07:43:11 -0500 From: "Dana Overall" Subject: Re: KR> Video of First Flight To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed GEEZ Mark:-), :-), :-) I just got to listen to the sound.......................what a frickin riot:-) YeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaa.................. Dana Overall Richmond, KY i39 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" Finish kit 13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon. http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg do not archive >From: >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: Re: KR> Video of First Flight Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 16:10:20 >-0500 > >COOL COOL COOL >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Jones" >To: "Corvaircraft" ; "KR Net" > >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:17 PM >Subject: KR> Video of First Flight > > > > Thanks to a great friend named Orma, I am able to share with all of > > the >KR >and Corvaircraft family, a short video of my first takeoff. Be sure to >turn up your volume so you can hear that sweet Corvair engine.... > > > > This may take a few minutes to load up on your computer. > > http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/MARK%20JONES.htm > > > > > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 07:52:58 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Sound To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007601c53782$e5be5760$9c402141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey gang Listen REAL close to that Corvair as Mark lifts off and tell that engine doesn't sound ALOT like a Rolls Royce Marlin in a P51! That thing sounds awesome! Makes me get goose bumps. Sorry ladies but that is better than sex. Can't wait until I get my Corvair together. Colin & Beverly Rainey Apex Lending, Inc. 407-323-6960 (p) 407-557-3260 (f) www.eloan2004cr.com crainey@apexlending.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 08:59:33 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: KR> Sound To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004601c5378c$33636bf0$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Since some of you on the net like sound, I uploaded a short clip on my web site http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com Or you can go directly to the new clip at. http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/TweetyPassing.wmv I'm sure there are a lot of KR people out there who would like to see more clips of KR's, I don't have a huge resource of web space, but I would be willing to host a few short clips. Contact me off net if interested. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:08:52 -0500 From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: RE: KR> Video of First Flight To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <6812-424EA774-4584@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey, Mark J; Would you take just $100,000 for it instead? PG ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:15:55 -0500 From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: Re: KR> First Flight To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <6815-424EA91B-1755@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Hi; It's NOT "crap"!! I ran it about 12 times! Love that corvair sound,,,someone said like the Rolls Royce! The "yeeehaaaw" broke us all up here Again....nice goin' Mark. Paul G Erie, PA ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:35:41 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Video of First Flight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003801c53799$a60693a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sorry. I won't budge. Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:08 AM Subject: RE: KR> Video of First Flight > Hey, Mark J; > > Would you take just $100,000 for it instead? > > PG > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:39:07 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Sound To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004601c5379a$206f8d40$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Orma, that is a nice clip. You said you were passing over Dalton. Is that Dalton, GA? Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: KR> Sound > Since some of you on the net like sound, I uploaded a short clip on my > web site > > http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com > > Or you can go directly to the new clip at. > > http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/TweetyPassing.wmv > > I'm sure there are a lot of KR people out there who would like to see > more clips of KR's, I don't have a huge resource of web space, but I would be willing to host a few short clips. Contact me off net if interested. > > Orma > Southfield, MI > N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year > Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust > http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 10:03:22 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Pre Flight To: "Corvaircraft" , "KR Net" Message-ID: <006e01c5379d$842900c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This morning I headed to the airport to do some flying behind a Warp Drive 3-blade prop that I installed last night. This is one of the prop bank props and is a 52" diameter. I set the pitch at 19° which is equal to 54" pitch. Anyway, my static rpms yielded the same as my 2-blade Sterba 56x64 prop. The big difference in static was that with the Warp Drive set at 54" pitch, I could not hold the plane still at full static rpm. The brakes would not keep the plane from creeping forward. With the Sterba 56x64 I could easily keep the plane from moving. I then taxied to the beginning of the runway to do a pre-flight run up. Rpm set, all temps looking good, right ignition - check, left ignition - ENGINE DIED. The engine would run fine on my right ignition but would die if I flipped the switch to the left ignition. I taxied back to the hanger and started troubleshooting. The culprit was a set of closed points. This distributor has 34 running hours alternating between ignition systems. I did not have the correct allen wrench with me to reset the gap so I will do that on my next trip to the airport. I have sent my Sterba 56x64 back to Sterba for re-pitching. It will be a 54x54 when I get it back. Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:06:39 -0500 From: Martha Crawford Subject: Re: KR> Sound To: KRnet Message-ID: <329ABE01-A391-11D9-B993-000A95D27864@simerson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Orma ssswweeet! ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:15:36 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Sound To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006e01c5379f$34f89040$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original That was Dalton field, Flushing MI I'm excited to hear how the warp drive performs, I'd bet there is another Yeeeeeee Haaaaaaa coming. Orma ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 11:23:12 -0500 From: Martha Crawford Subject: Re: KR> Sound To: KRnet Message-ID: <826D5C6D-A393-11D9-B993-000A95D27864@simerson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mark will you have a video camera there? Keith Crawford Lansing MI ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 16:20:52 EST From: Lyracw@wmconnect.com Subject: Re: KR> KR-2 for sale To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" you have several KR-2s for sale Re: alamokr2, skphil, patrick, orma, & ezflyer. please send me the infor on these aircraft Caryl ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 17:13:28 -0500 From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" Subject: KR> Wynne Assembly Plant To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004e01c537d1$33f0aa70$9c402141@RaineyDay> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well being in Florida has its advantages. Today I drove over and checked out the Wynne Engine Plant at Massey Ranch Airport, and let me tell you....his place is chock full of good stuff. They are thrashing in high gear to be ready for Sun n Fun, so I didn't expect much but a few words, drop off my list of stuff I wanted from the online catalog, and feel grateful that they opened the door when I knocked. MAN WAS I MISTAKEN! I was met by Grace at the door with a very pleasant hello, I will get William, and you are? Next walks up William, eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich I think, and grinning from ear to ear. He greeted me warmly, shook my hand, and said "Come on, I will give you the tour". I proceeded to walk through an engine guy's paradise! I love motors, and William does too. There was a wall covered with Corvair cases, no less than 12 in varying stages of buildup, and modification, one that looked like Pat Panzerra's, built by a "hot rod" shop with what the owner called "lots of good stuff", that had the plug wires on all wrong for starters, LOL! There were 2 skunkworks setups that I wasn't allowed to see, that will be unveiled at Sun n Fun, the Tri-Motor project, and more.... After I forced my bottom jaw back closed, and quit looking like a 2 year old seeing Santa for the first time, I was actually able to carry on an intelligent conversation with William, and we discussed my KR2. Well one thing lead to another, and 2 hours later I drove away with a complete Corvair engine, and almost all the fixins for an aircraft engine. I talked to my wife all the way home about the visit. The most impressive thing was not the level of caring and consideration that everyone there had, but the fact that William himself stopped what he was doing and helped me for 2 hours, even with Sun n Fun right around the corner. Anyone can be gracious when they are having a good day, but everyone there was most interested in ME having a good day, and then smiling for the effort! THANKS WILLIAM AND GANG...THAT'S A PROMISE FLYING WITH CORVAIR POWER BY MEMORIAL DAY OR SOONER! Colin & Beverly Rainey Apex Lending, Inc. 407-323-6960 (p) 407-557-3260 (f) www.eloan2004cr.com crainey@apexlending.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:09:46 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> prop changes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" It is very common for people to try different props on KRs to get better performance. If you do change your prop you need to be aware that a different prop constitutes a major change as defined by FAR 21.93. When you perform a major change you wind up back in the test phase if you have already flown your hours off. What your operating limitations say about major changes depends on how old your operating limitations are. Typically it requires that you notify the FAA of the major change and have them approve your test flying area for 5 hours before you fly the plane again. This is just like before with day VFR only with no passengers over sparsely populated areas, etc. with the logbook entry on completion of the successfull test flying. I assume that if you are still in your initial test flying phase that you don't need to notify them, but I am not 100% sure. I would be the last one to tell anyone what they should do, but I wanted to bring this up because most people are not aware of this. Someone made me aware of this after they got in trouble for it. There are enough things that will bite us out there without stumbling into a rule violation that we are not even aware of. Know what your operating limitations say and know what each limitation means. From there you can do what you want. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:17:01 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Wynne Assembly Plant To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Exactly the same 2 hours of hospitality I got when I picked up my core. Good guy indeed. I just wish he would sell all the new parts I need instead of referring me to catalogs. He is doing us a good service by telling us where to get the new parts at good prices that he could not sell in low volumes for less money, but I would gladly pay him an extra 10% to just get all the correct parts from one place. I suspect that I am not the only one. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 18:48:18 -0700 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> prop changes To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050402.184818.1764.0.jscott.pilot@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Brian is absolutely correct here. The real bite is that by not notifying the FAA PRIOR to flying with a "major modification" as definde by the FARs, you are in violation of your operating limitations, which voids your insurance coverage, including liability. Typically, the FSDO will thank you for calling and tell you to note it in your log book and restrict yourself to your original phase one testing restrictions for 5 hours, which does include the same test area. If you never notify FSDO, then from that point forward you are operating in violation of your operating limitations and could be without insurance coverage even if you have made a notation in your log and done phase one testing on the modification. Another gotcha... If your are no longer living where your KR was originally tested and need to return the aircraft to phase one testing, technically you should ask FSDO to assign a new phase one test area. I've been down this road with FSDO and they were clueless as to how to re-assign the test area, but it is in the FARs. They did eventually assign a new test area, so it can be done. I suspect this was a localized FSDO training issue. Now out of the FARs and back to the real world. The FAA typically has no clue how your plane was originally equipped, so they may not have a clue about a "major modification" like changing to a different type of prop has been made unless you hang yourself after an accident by telling them that you were testing a new prop or if there was a notation in the log book. Since I require myself to test fly and validate changes to the plane anyway, I try to stay within the FARs and will give FSDO a courtesy call when I make major modifications to my plane. -Jeff On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:09:46 -0500 "Brian Kraut" writes: > It is very common for people to try different props on KRs to get > better > performance. If you do change your prop you need to be aware that > a > different prop constitutes a major change as defined by FAR 21.93. > When you > perform a major change you wind up back in the test phase if you > have > already flown your hours off. What your operating limitations say > about > major changes depends on how old your operating limitations are. > Typically > it requires that you notify the FAA of the major change and have > them > approve your test flying area for 5 hours before you fly the plane > again. > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 21:51:06 EST From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Wynne Assembly Plant and YYYYEEEEHHHHAAAA ! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <53.24c577d7.2f80b41a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Ive helped WW out in the past and hope to do more here in the very near future - like next week. I know that a lot of people would like to be able to get all the "small stuff" from WW directly but it is the fact that everyone seems to make a different installation that makes it difficult to have a "kit". There is a firewall forward kit becoming available for the Zenair 601 and that includes everything needed - just a bolt on kit. We have a good start on the KR2 firewall forward kit but not there yet. We have the mounts and are upgrading a cowling and starter package for it that will reduce hoses and oil modifications. Just be patient. A lot of Corvair KR guys went with a rear starter package which necesitates a lot of customizing and personalized work. As well, I have found that most KR folk dont want to spend the $ for a finished package and want to save money by designing their own. That is why wing skins and preformed parts dont sell as well. They do require a lot of investment and the person developing them should be paid accordingly but a lot of us are cheapskates..... myself included (under 8500.00 so far in mine). I went out today for the first flight in almost a month. Like I mentioned before I was doing some mods and cleanup - inspection - work. Beautiful - 6:30 - sunset - 65 degrees - Took off and noticed I climbed like a banshee....gap seals must have helped....reduced power to 3400...climed to 3000 and leveled off. At 3400 showed an average of 154 mph...not bad. Full power showed 175 mph - again not too bad...but then i noticed that my rpms had increased from full power on previous flight of 3800 to this time a 3900 peak full power. I gained 100 rpm with my mods but very little in mph. I know for sure a new prop will have to be checked out. I hope my reconditioned prop gets here soon to test out. I think that in the last three hundred rpms that I have run out of prop efficiency. I know this baby has a lot more it can give but I just need testing time. I came down from 3000 and shot a straight in approach on 35, on final doing 165 and slowing down to a greaser landing at 50mph. And this at night...The panel lights work better now and having strobes helps the tower find me. I wont do very much night flying since I dont have and attitude indicator yet but it will be nice for landing after dusk and leaving out early in the mornings on clear days. For now it is ready for Sun N Fun. Time to put on a few more hours.. see some more sunsets... 41768 - Bill ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 21:53:02 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> prop changes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On one of my KRs I spent over a year converting to fixed gear, adding wing tanks, new panel, and about a zillion other minor and major alterations. I was a different owner and in a different state, but I had no problem with the local FSDO getting the new area assigned for the 5 hours. I don't know if they knew what prop you had in the past, but I just had a DAR inspection on my Midget Mustang on Monday and the airworthiness application they are using these days has a spot for prop manufacturer, model, and serial number. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of jscott.pilot@juno.com Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:48 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> prop changes Brian is absolutely correct here. The real bite is that by not notifying the FAA PRIOR to flying with a "major modification" as definde by the FARs, you are in violation of your operating limitations, which voids your insurance coverage, including liability. Typically, the FSDO will thank you for calling and tell you to note it in your log book and restrict yourself to your original phase one testing restrictions for 5 hours, which does include the same test area. If you never notify FSDO, then from that point forward you are operating in violation of your operating limitations and could be without insurance coverage even if you have made a notation in your log and done phase one testing on the modification. Another gotcha... If your are no longer living where your KR was originally tested and need to return the aircraft to phase one testing, technically you should ask FSDO to assign a new phase one test area. I've been down this road with FSDO and they were clueless as to how to re-assign the test area, but it is in the FARs. They did eventually assign a new test area, so it can be done. I suspect this was a localized FSDO training issue. Now out of the FARs and back to the real world. The FAA typically has no clue how your plane was originally equipped, so they may not have a clue about a "major modification" like changing to a different type of prop has been made unless you hang yourself after an accident by telling them that you were testing a new prop or if there was a notation in the log book. Since I require myself to test fly and validate changes to the plane anyway, I try to stay within the FARs and will give FSDO a courtesy call when I make major modifications to my plane. -Jeff On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 19:09:46 -0500 "Brian Kraut" writes: > It is very common for people to try different props on KRs to get > better > performance. If you do change your prop you need to be aware that > a > different prop constitutes a major change as defined by FAR 21.93. > When you > perform a major change you wind up back in the test phase if you > have > already flown your hours off. What your operating limitations say > about > major changes depends on how old your operating limitations are. > Typically > it requires that you notify the FAA of the major change and have > them > approve your test flying area for 5 hours before you fly the plane > again. > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:57:36 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Wynne Assembly Plant and YYYYEEEEHHHHAAAA ! To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010e01c537f8$ea246d00$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bill, what prop are you running today? Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: Re: KR> Wynne Assembly Plant and YYYYEEEEHHHHAAAA ! > Ive helped WW out in the past and hope to do more here in the very near > future - like next week. I know that a lot of people would like to be able to > get all the "small stuff" from WW directly but it is the fact that everyone > seems to make a different installation that makes it difficult to have a "kit". > There is a firewall forward kit becoming available for the Zenair 601 and > that includes everything needed - just a bolt on kit. We have a good start on > the KR2 firewall forward kit but not there yet. We have the mounts and are > upgrading a cowling and starter package for it that will reduce hoses and oil > modifications. Just be patient. > A lot of Corvair KR guys went with a rear starter package which > necesitates a lot of customizing and personalized work. As well, I have found that > most KR folk dont want to spend the $ for a finished package and want to save > money by designing their own. That is why wing skins and preformed parts > dont sell as well. They do require a lot of investment and the person > developing them should be paid accordingly but a lot of us are cheapskates..... > myself included (under 8500.00 so far in mine). > > > I went out today for the first flight in almost a month. Like I mentioned > before I was doing some mods and cleanup - inspection - work. Beautiful - > 6:30 - sunset - 65 degrees - Took off and noticed I climbed like a > banshee....gap seals must have helped....reduced power to 3400...climed to 3000 and > leveled off. At 3400 showed an average of 154 mph...not bad. Full power showed > 175 mph - again not too bad...but then i noticed that my rpms had increased > from full power on previous flight of 3800 to this time a 3900 peak full > power. I gained 100 rpm with my mods but very little in mph. I know for sure a > new prop will have to be checked out. I hope my reconditioned prop gets here > soon to test out. I think that in the last three hundred rpms that I have > run out of prop efficiency. I know this baby has a lot more it can give but > I just need testing time. I came down from 3000 and shot a straight in > approach on 35, on final doing 165 and slowing down to a greaser landing at > 50mph. And this at night...The panel lights work better now and having strobes > helps the tower find me. I wont do very much night flying since I dont have > and attitude indicator yet but it will be nice for landing after dusk and > leaving out early in the mornings on clear days. For now it is ready for Sun N > Fun. Time to put on a few more hours.. see some more sunsets... > 41768 - Bill > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:06:28 EST From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Wynne Assembly Plant and YYYYEEEEHHHHAAAA ! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <126.5a27c268.2f80b7b4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Im still using my Prince 52 X 50 that I used during my test period. I plan to put on a repitched 52 X 54 Prince and try it before sun n fun to see if I like it. I need a bit more pitch to take advantage of the powerband I have. I tend to cruise at somewhere @ 65% power doing 150 on cross country flying - not bad really - but that is mostly becouse I think I am close to overreving the prop. With more pitch I should cruise faster. My climb rate did improve considerable though with the gap seals. The Warp drive does provide a lot more static thrust but not as much high speed thrust as the Sterba prop does. Dont confuse what it does on the ground to how it acts in the air. My Prince shows very little static thrust compared to many but is built for higher speeds. Bill ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:12:03 EST From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: KR> video? To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <128.59ec3852.2f80b903@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Boy, with all these new videos out I feel left behind. I dont have very much in the way of video or pics of my plane. Everybody says it sound like a P51 - Ive never heard it! The Gathering video has music that covers most of the sound up. Im hoping to get someone to come out to the airport and shoot some for me. I only have a 8mm camera but Ill try to find someone who can shoot some digital so I can put it on the net somehow - for inspiration sake. Lets see... How would 5 Corviar Krs in formation sound? WOW !!! What a thought! 41768 ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:43:37 EST From: BABYWOLF@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Looking at the list To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Garry Cowles Santa Fe NM bought Kr plans in 1979 and built side panels- had an old kr pilot / builder look at my work and he did not like the epoxy I was using - I listened to him and redid the side panels with T88 then every body said make it longer and wider so I redid it and made it longer and wider, then my lovely soon to be ex wife threw the plans in the garbage , Janet Rand gave me a good deal on a replacement set of plans, and the project continued I have carried this KR kit from house to house and job to job and tonight I am gluing the last of the spar web skins . I have saved enough $ for Rand Wing Skins and a Rotex910. When you make everything 3 times progress is slow but eventually I will fly to a gathering. This list is certainly a motivating factor- thanks everyone ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:51:46 +1000 From: "Glasseyegav" Subject: KR> Yahoo! Photos - My KR2 S Project To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <000901c53800$75860500$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi all, I've added a few pics to my Yahoo album with the wings on. Gavin http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/glasseyegav/album?.dir=a154 ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 22:49:16 -0500 From: "Ron Freiberger" Subject: KR> Changes in General To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <002c01c53800$1f784ba0$6400a8c0@Disorganized> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com/homebuilt_court_decision.htm This is an interesting article that tells you some of the pitfalls of undocumented changes. You have a lot to lose by failure to do it right. Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net  _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 134 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================