From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 181 Date: 5/8/2005 6:33:51 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: udate- fire control/ Larry (Dann Johnson) 2. Re: wing gap seals/covers/Keith Crawford (Dann Johnson) 3. Mothers Day (Mark Jones) 4. Re: Mothers Day (pole shed) 5. Wing gap seals/covers (Serge VIDAL) 6. Inspection hatch, tail section (Serge VIDAL) 7. Re: Inspection hatch, tail section (Dan Heath) 8. R?f. : Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section (Serge VIDAL) 9. Gluing foam to wood (Serge VIDAL) 10. fire control in the engine comparetment. (haroldwoods) 11. Re: Inspection hatch, tail section (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 12. Re: Gluing foam to wood (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 13. Re: fire control in the engine comparetment. (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 14. R?f. : Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section (Serge VIDAL) 15. R?f. : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. (Serge VIDAL) 16. R?f. : Re: KR> Gluing foam to wood (Serge VIDAL) 17. Re: Inspection hatch, tail section (Donald Reid) 18. Re: R?f. : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. (Mike Turner) 19. Re: fire control in the engine comparetment. (Allen Wiesner ) 20. Re: Mothers Day (jscott.pilot@juno.com) 21. Flight Report (Barry Kruyssen) 22. Inspection hatch, tail section (larry flesner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 04:22:41 -0500 From: "Dann Johnson" Subject: Re: KR> udate- fire control/ Larry To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050508092241.C1B1B86B10@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Larry, Speaking of Fire Control on Mother's Day... so you really think that if I make a run for the airport and am gone all day.. that will be seen as a gift for my bride of 30 years.. Maybe you have a point... Dann ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: KRnet Subject: KR> udate- fire control Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 20:29:58 -0500 > > > > > I've spent some time this week repairing the fire damage to my cowl. > I laid the bottom cowl bottom side up and laid plastic over the > damaged area plus a bit extra. I then laid up three layers of glass > over the plastic. I marked the damaged area to be cut out, overlaid > the new cured glass and marked out an area approx one inch larger. I > then cut out the damaged area, trimmed the new glass and epoxy/floxed > it in place. This afternoon I mixed some epoxy/micro, feathered the > edges and laid one layer of deck cloth over the patch. I'll sand off > the edges in the morning, mount the cowl and go flying. I'll > worry about the primer and paint later when I re-do my left > wing and wheel covers. > > I've finished rebuilding/painting the 500X5 wheels and brakes and have > new lower attach fittings built and painted. I hope to get them > mounted in the next few weeks. I haven't drilled the fittings for the > gear leg attach yet as I hope to do a toe-in, toe-out adjustment when > I mount them. I recently purched a cheap laser level and will use > that to set them at zero toe-in. The 500X5 tires are the same diameter > as my 600X6's (13 inches) but they only look half as wide. Now I need > to bite the bullet and order a set of the new RV pants. My friends > flying Mooneys will have to run an extra inch or two manifold pressure > to stay with me when I get them mounted. :-) > > Don't forget to get out of the house tomorrow by going to the airport > so your kids Mother can have a day of peace and quiet. :-) > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 04:42:56 -0500 From: "Dann Johnson" Subject: Re: KR> wing gap seals/covers/Keith Crawford To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050508094256.C7F7086B10@ws7-1.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Keith, Enjoyed look your site.. Looked at your url links... is this a KR2 ??? http://www.u-r-on.net/gallery/Airplane/DSCN3758 Dann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> wing gap seals/covers Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:29:01 -0500 > > Try Lowes. Home Depot may carry the white down there. Home Depot also > has plain non painted aluminum flashing. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martha Crawford" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:23 PM > Subject: Re: KR> wing gap seals/covers > > > > Hi all > > > > Roof flashing from Menards is a grate idea but Menards has not made > > it to Alabama yet. Menards stores are only in the midwest,,,, for > > now! > > > > > > any ways > > > > I drilled one end of my sub spar today. > > that little U shaped jig works GRATE. > > I put the new spar pitchers on my web site for all to see. > > > > > > Keith Crawford > > www.u-r-on.net/gallery/kr > > martha@simerson.net > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:19:22 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Mothers Day To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <003101c553d8$f442ff80$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I gave my wife an Ellison EFS-3A carb for mothers day. Anybody have a spare bedroom I can use. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 07:24:36 -0700 (PDT) From: pole shed Subject: Re: KR> Mothers Day To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050508142437.54561.qmail@web31109.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You should have taped a nice card to it, or some flowers. --- Mark Jones wrote: > I gave my wife an Ellison EFS-3A carb for mothers > day. Anybody have a spare bedroom I can use. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html Larry Lipe Carbondale,IL MSGT USMC(Ret) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:30:45 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> Wing gap seals/covers To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, I think the consensus is that: 1) The easiest way to close the gap is to use some thin tape, in one shape or another: aluminum, plastic, fiberglass, or whatever. 2) There are two ways to fit the tape: either screws, or double sided adhesive. The conformance to the curved shape can be achieved either by shaping the tape (easiest with fiberglass), or by making one strip at the top, one at the bottom, with an overlapping join on the leading edge. Currently, mine are closed using 1mm thick greyish plastic, and double sided adhesive. I would like to find a thinner plastic, for better aesthetics. So far, I used double sided adhesive, the type you use for bathroom mirrors, because it is waterproof. But by the time I close my wings again, I will probably have do something hybrid, with some one sided adhesive, some double sided adhesive, and some screws. Because removing all that tape each time is a real pain. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "Mark Langford" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-06 04:56 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-06 04:54 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> wing gap seals/covers OK, I've already heard all the ways to fill the stub-to-outer wing gap, but it wouldn't hurt to hear 'em all again. I've just stuck the wings on and I recall that I need to fill that 1" gap that I need to do something about... Thanks, Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:41:00 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I will have to make one or several inspection hatches on my tail section, for the following reasons: 1 - I need to replace the elevator cables; 2 - I need to remove the tail wheel spring; 3 - I need to be able to inspect the rudder and elevator hinges nuts. The more I think of it, the more I end up thinking that one large hole each side will serve my purpose better than three or four tiny ones. If I make these holes under the horizontal stabilizer, I will probably be able to do everything except replacing the top elevator cable. Has anybody been there, done that already? How big can I make that hole? Where should I drill the hole? I was thinking of maybe 120mm (4.75") opening, right in the middle of the compartment. Any idea for the top elevator cable? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 12:50:19 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: Message-ID: <427E434B.000001.01188@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There are two bays back there that you need to get into. I made mine about 4 in diameter. When choosing the size of the hole, think about the area that will be needed to put a mounting plate back in. Don't cut yourself so close to the stringers that you don't have room to mount one. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 19:11:09 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, two bays. But the top one is a challenge, because my turtle deck is not as per plans. The vertical stabilizer merges with the fuselage in a large curve. So, cutting a hatch is probably more difficult than even removing the elevator. Serge "Dan Heath" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-08 18:50 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-08 18:50 Pour : cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section There are two bays back there that you need to get into. I made mine about 4 in diameter. When choosing the size of the hole, think about the area that will be needed to put a mounting plate back in. Don't cut yourself so close to the stringers that you don't have room to mount one. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 19:40:45 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> Gluing foam to wood To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The guys at my local homebuilder's association use some glue to bond wood to foam, foam to foam, and even foam to wood. They call it "polyurethane glue". It is found in hardware stores, as an exterior wood glue. They also use it to "glaze" the exposed face of the foam. One of the builders did his entire aircraft with it, as a substitute to Epoxy. He says he made some tests, proving that the pond was as strong as Epoxy. Haven't tried it yet. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:04:41 -0400 From: "haroldwoods" Subject: KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. To: Message-ID: <001b01c55411$8db5b440$0501a8c0@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" H Netter. Sport Aviation had a suggestion, a long time ago about carburetor fires. They suggested a Halon fire extinguisher in the cockpit area be plumbed with a hose into the engine compartment and be delivered into the throat of the air supply into the carburetor. It would be a good idea to have a sensor that would detect a fire and light up a bright red light in the instrument panel. I already have my Halon extinguisher but can anyone suggest a fire detection system? Regards Harold Woods Orillia,ON. Can. haroldwoods@rogers.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:20:28 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050508.173208.1468.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Long piano hinges on the turtle deck, Virg On Sun, 8 May 2005 17:41:00 +0200 Serge VIDAL writes: > I will have to make one or several inspection hatches on my tail > section, > for the following reasons: > 1 - I need to replace the elevator cables; > 2 - I need to remove the tail wheel spring; > 3 - I need to be able to inspect the rudder and elevator hinges > nuts. > > The more I think of it, the more I end up thinking that one large > hole > each side will serve my purpose better than three or four tiny ones. > If I > make these holes under the horizontal stabilizer, I will probably be > able > to do everything except replacing the top elevator cable. > > Has anybody been there, done that already? > How big can I make that hole? > Where should I drill the hole? > I was thinking of maybe 120mm (4.75") opening, right in the middle > of the > compartment. > > Any idea for the top elevator cable? > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:22:42 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Gluing foam to wood To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050508.173208.1468.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Was that Gorrila Glue?? Virg On Sun, 8 May 2005 19:40:45 +0200 Serge VIDAL writes: > The guys at my local homebuilder's association use some glue to bond > wood > to foam, foam to foam, and even foam to wood. They call it > "polyurethane > glue". It is found in hardware stores, as an exterior wood glue. > They also > use it to "glaze" the exposed face of the foam. One of the builders > did > his entire aircraft with it, as a substitute to Epoxy. He says he > made > some tests, proving that the pond was as strong as Epoxy. > > Haven't tried it yet. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:32:08 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050508.173208.1468.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii SMOKE is a good sign of a fire, I JEST, Virg On Sun, 8 May 2005 17:04:41 -0400 "haroldwoods" writes: > H Netter. > Sport Aviation had a suggestion, a long time ago about carburetor > fires. They suggested a Halon fire extinguisher in the cockpit area > be plumbed with a hose into the engine compartment and be delivered > into the throat of the air supply into the carburetor. It would be a > good idea to have a sensor that would detect a fire and light up a > bright red light in the instrument panel. > I already have my Halon extinguisher but can anyone suggest a fire > detection system? > Regards > Harold Woods > Orillia,ON. Can. > > haroldwoods@rogers.com _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 00:00:39 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Too late for that, Virg. The turle deck was closed very long ago. Serge VIRGIL N SALISBURY Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-08 23:20 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-08 23:33 Pour : krnet@mylist.net cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section Long piano hinges on the turtle deck, Virg On Sun, 8 May 2005 17:41:00 +0200 Serge VIDAL writes: > I will have to make one or several inspection hatches on my tail > section, > for the following reasons: > 1 - I need to replace the elevator cables; > 2 - I need to remove the tail wheel spring; > 3 - I need to be able to inspect the rudder and elevator hinges > nuts. > > The more I think of it, the more I end up thinking that one large > hole > each side will serve my purpose better than three or four tiny ones. > If I > make these holes under the horizontal stabilizer, I will probably be > able > to do everything except replacing the top elevator cable. > > Has anybody been there, done that already? > How big can I make that hole? > Where should I drill the hole? > I was thinking of maybe 120mm (4.75") opening, right in the middle > of the > compartment. > > Any idea for the top elevator cable? > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 00:03:58 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have toyed with that idea myself for a while. A regular extinguisher would probably do the job too. As for the fire detection system, why not use a thermostat (heat sensor) of the correct rating? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "haroldwoods" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-08 23:04 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-08 23:05 Pour : cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. H Netter. Sport Aviation had a suggestion, a long time ago about carburetor fires. They suggested a Halon fire extinguisher in the cockpit area be plumbed with a hose into the engine compartment and be delivered into the throat of the air supply into the carburetor. It would be a good idea to have a sensor that would detect a fire and light up a bright red light in the instrument panel. I already have my Halon extinguisher but can anyone suggest a fire detection system? Regards Harold Woods Orillia,ON. Can. haroldwoods@rogers.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 00:05:55 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Gluing foam to wood To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No specific brand, just "Polyurethane exterior wood glue". There are about twenty brands of that stuff available here in France. Serge VIRGIL N SALISBURY Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-08 23:22 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-08 23:33 Pour : krnet@mylist.net cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Gluing foam to wood Was that Gorrila Glue?? Virg On Sun, 8 May 2005 19:40:45 +0200 Serge VIDAL writes: > The guys at my local homebuilder's association use some glue to bond > wood > to foam, foam to foam, and even foam to wood. They call it > "polyurethane > glue". It is found in hardware stores, as an exterior wood glue. > They also > use it to "glaze" the exposed face of the foam. One of the builders > did > his entire aircraft with it, as a substitute to Epoxy. He says he > made > some tests, proving that the pond was as strong as Epoxy. > > Haven't tried it yet. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 18:28:29 -0400 From: Donald Reid Subject: Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20050508182257.01b33ea0@mail.peoplepc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:41 AM 5/8/2005, you wrote: >I will have to make one or several inspection hatches on my tail >section, for the following reasons: 1 - I need to replace the elevator >cables; 2 - I need to remove the tail wheel spring; >3 - I need to be able to inspect the rudder and elevator hinges nuts. I have one access hole under the stab that is about 4" tall by 6" long. a removable section at the back of the turtleback, and inspection ports at the top and bottom of the elevator horns. These are 2" in diameter and are will be covered with recessed plexiglass covers so that I can see the horns. There are pictures of most of this on my web site. Don Reid - donreid "at" peoplepc.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: AeroFoil, a 2-D Airfoil Design And Analysis Computer Program: http://aerofoilengineering.com KR2XL construction: http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/KR2XL.htm Aviation Surplus: http://aerofoilengineering.com/PartsListing/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:19:05 -0500 From: "Mike Turner" Subject: Re: R?f. : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ----- Original Message ----- From: Serge VIDAL To: KRnet Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:03 PM Subject: Réf. : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. I have toyed with that idea myself for a while. A regular extinguisher would probably do the job too. As for the fire detection system, why not use a thermostat (heat sensor) of the correct rating? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France Smoke detector? Mike Turner Jackson, Mo. "haroldwoods" > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-08 23:04 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-08 23:05 Pour : > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. H Netter. Sport Aviation had a suggestion, a long time ago about carburetor fires. They suggested a Halon fire extinguisher in the cockpit area be plumbed with a hose into the engine compartment and be delivered into the throat of the air supply into the carburetor. It would be a good idea to have a sensor that would detect a fire and light up a bright red light in the instrument panel. I already have my Halon extinguisher but can anyone suggest a fire detection system? Regards Harold Woods Orillia,ON. Can. haroldwoods@rogers.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 20:28:41 -0400 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001601c5542e$0e3af1e0$540cda42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The military (and I assume commercial jets) have had Infrared flame detectors since the 60's. Main problem is that they run on 28 VDC. (see http://www2.kiddeaerospace.com/product.htm ) There are small IR detector IC's available for under $5.00, but you would have to build a power circuit since most run on 1.5 to 5 VDC. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 19:20:20 -0600 From: jscott.pilot@juno.com Subject: Re: KR> Mothers Day To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050508.192020.496.0.jscott.pilot@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sun, 8 May 2005 09:19:22 -0500 "Mark Jones" writes: > I gave my wife an Ellison EFS-3A carb for mothers day. Anybody have a > spare bedroom I can use. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) You can sleep on the couch in my hanger. :o) Course I spent the day flying and working on planes today, so I may have to camp up there tonight too. ;o) Rolled past 510 hours on the KR this weekend. If the weather cooperates, I should have the KR at SWRFI next weekend. -Jeff Scott ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:29:30 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: KR> Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <012201c55436$8dea0ae0$f400a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well over the weekend I finally took a passenger up. (to date I had only had 40kg extra in the aircraft as that is all I could safely secure) The extra weight, 65kg, affected my climb and acceleration significantly. Normally I go full power and the tail is off the ground, 2 up I have about 20 meters ground roll before the tail comes up (the positioning of my mains probably affects this, they are well forward). Normally off the ground in less than 80 meters, 2 up is about 120 meters. Once off the ground and in ground affect acceleration is much slower (still playing with this as I think I may be too high to really be in ground affect) Climb is about 400ft/min at 90kts, stall was not to much different, about 43kts and cruise was down 5kts to 110kts. The landing was a different story, I sank right through my round out and experienced nearly no ground effect and touched down firmly, next landing I carried a bit more speed, extra 5kts, and made a perfect landing. All in all I am happy but expected a better climb rate. But still have to add wheel spats and clean up where the old retract holes are. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 20:30:47 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050508203047.0087e550@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:41 PM 5/8/05 +0200, you wrote: >I will have to make one or several inspection hatches on my tail >section, >for the following reasons: ______________________________________________________________ I included three inspection plates in my tail section. One large cutout just under the horizontal stab, approx 6"X 4" or 5"X 7", one just above the horizontal stab in line with the elevator horn, and one on the turtledeck, approx 8"X 10" in line with the pulley for the elevator cable. I can get to the tailwheel spring and the bottom of the elevator horn through the bottom hole, the top of the elevator horn through the upper hole, and the pulley and tail section through the turtledeck hole. If you are careful, as in using a Dremel with cutoff wheel and a hacksaw blade as a guide to do the cutouts, you can use the cutout piec as your cover. Just epoxy in a stop ridge just inside the cutout and use screws, flat nutplates, or blindnuts to re-install the covers. I used some of each. Make your holes large enough to allow for closing them down with the stop ridges. In the fuselage cutout for example, I glued some 3/32" ply strips to re-mount the cover with tiny wood screws. If you epoxy in some blindnuts, run a screw in and out of each one to make sure they are secure before installing the cover plate. If one breaks loose when installing the cover there is hardly any way to get it off without doing some damage. I lucked out when I had only one break loose so I was able to remove the rest, spin the plate a bit and remove the faulty component. Do a good job on the cutouts, paint the screw heads, and the cutout is hardly noticable. When determining the size of the cutout ask yourself if it is just for inspection or will you need to get both hands in to do repair. Sometimes two holes in the right place with one hand in each is better then one large ,but not quite large enough, hole that with both hands inserted you can't see what you're doing. In other words, think beyond just cutting out the hole. I got my bird back in the air today, cowl patch and all. It didn't seem to slow it down any. :-) Speaking of slowing it down, I did about 30 minutes of loose formation with a friend in his Ercoupe today. I was pulling a blazing 1800 rpm and wollowing all over the place in all the thermals to stay with him. I may try to find some good thermals this summer, cut the power to idle and see if the KR can be flown as a powered glider. Taking Mark's line one step further, so much fun to be had, so little time! Have a good week........ Larry Flesner ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 181 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================