From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 183 Date: 5/9/2005 2:27:05 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Inspection hatch, tail section (Brian Kraut) 2. RE: Flight Report (Stephen Jacobs) 3. Re: Flipping Fuse photo (Phillip Matheson) 4. Re: Inspection hatch, tail section (Jim Sellars) 5. Re: Flight Report (Jim Sellars) 6. Inspection hatch, tail section (Serge VIDAL) 7. Talking about hinges... (Serge VIDAL) 8. Re: Hot Mag problem !!! (Orma) 9. Clapp's cowling and prop for sale (Mark Langford) 10. Hot Mag problem !!! (larry flesner) 11. Phone number (Bob Glidden) 12. RE: fire control in the engine comparetment. (Jack Cooper) 13. Langford vs Oshkosh (Wesley Scott) 14. Mid -Atlantic Fylin and airshow (Jack Cooper) 15. N1213W (Dene Collett (SA)) 16. Re: Langford vs Oshkosh (Mark Langford) 17. N1213W (rhartwig11@juno.com) 18. Re: N1213W (Jeff Scott) 19. Re: N1213W (Al Friesen) 20. Re: fire control in the engine comparetment. (Allen Wiesner ) 21. Re: N1213W (Al Friesen) 22. Re: N1213W (Jeff Scott) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 00:49:59 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had an oval shaped one on one side only about 6" tall and 8" wide. It was about evan at the front with the front of the stab. It worked good and I could get to everything I needed to. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Serge VIDAL Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:41 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section I will have to make one or several inspection hatches on my tail section, for the following reasons: 1 - I need to replace the elevator cables; 2 - I need to remove the tail wheel spring; 3 - I need to be able to inspect the rudder and elevator hinges nuts. The more I think of it, the more I end up thinking that one large hole each side will serve my purpose better than three or four tiny ones. If I make these holes under the horizontal stabilizer, I will probably be able to do everything except replacing the top elevator cable. Has anybody been there, done that already? How big can I make that hole? Where should I drill the hole? I was thinking of maybe 120mm (4.75") opening, right in the middle of the compartment. Any idea for the top elevator cable? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:02:11 +0200 From: "Stephen Jacobs" Subject: RE: KR> Flight Report To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c55465$0b5001f0$1764a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Normally I go full power and the tail is off the ground, 2 up I have about 20 meters ground roll before the tail comes up ++++++++++++++++++++ Barry - do you let it come up by itself, or do you deliberately bring it up with down elevator? Full down? Performance from the Jab sound pretty good considering you have fixed pitch. Take care Steve J Zambia ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:12:16 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Flipping Fuse photo To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001a01c55466$6f268540$11b1dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just added a page to my web page with a few photo's of how I flipped my fuse with only TWO people ( no engine) Try this direct link. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/FlippingFuse.html Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:45:33 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <014101c55494$fe05c090$6401a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Guys: There is another consideration, if you think that you will need to replace a cable do it right the first time. If you need to inspect it you probably can see what you need to see with a mirror probe and a look through the tail section openings. Too much complication is unnecessary on this little bird (personal view), and we could just go flying. If you discover at an annual that you need to get in there( the back end of the plane) cut a hole then and make the repairs needed and seal it up after, until the next time, ( probably years away). The old rule is make it light, keep it simple, fly it high and fast, smile. Best regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:49 AM Subject: RE: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section >I had an oval shaped one on one side only about 6" tall and 8" wide. >It >was > about evan at the front with the front of the stab. It worked good and I > could get to everything I needed to. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Serge VIDAL > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:41 AM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section > > > I will have to make one or several inspection hatches on my tail > section, for the following reasons: 1 - I need to replace the elevator > cables; 2 - I need to remove the tail wheel spring; > 3 - I need to be able to inspect the rudder and elevator hinges nuts. > > The more I think of it, the more I end up thinking that one large hole > each side will serve my purpose better than three or four tiny ones. > If I make these holes under the horizontal stabilizer, I will probably > be able to do everything except replacing the top elevator cable. > > Has anybody been there, done that already? > How big can I make that hole? > Where should I drill the hole? > I was thinking of maybe 120mm (4.75") opening, right in the middle of > the compartment. > > Any idea for the top elevator cable? > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:49:30 -0300 From: "Jim Sellars" Subject: Re: KR> Flight Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <014801c55495$8b4173f0$6401a8c0@laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Stephen: Tell us what power plant and prop you use, and what is your typical takeoff weight, please. That sounds like great performance, I've seen alot of the planes run on for a long time before they get flying speed do to poor combinations, small prop, or weak engine or heavy or all the above. Best regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Jacobs" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 4:02 AM Subject: RE: KR> Flight Report > Normally I go full power and the tail is off the ground, 2 up I have > about 20 meters ground roll before the tail comes up > > > ++++++++++++++++++++ > > > Barry - do you let it come up by itself, or do you deliberately bring > it up with down elevator? Full down? > > Performance from the Jab sound pretty good considering you have fixed > pitch. > > Take care > Steve J > Zambia > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 15:22:14 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section To: Jim Sellars , KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I do agree. This aircraft has flown safely for 400 hours and eight years. I'm happy with it. But if I want to go flying, I will have to make my airworthiness authorities happy too. I can satisfy myself with mirror inspections. I even own a (cheap) borescope, so there is little I cannot make sure of by myself. But they are like St Thomas: they believe only what they can see. And what they see now is control cables whose diameter is too small. My KR2 has been built with little consideration for inspectability and removability. I do not believe in complications either, nor in extra weight, but If I was to build a KR2 , I would probably take great care to make at least all hinges bolts fully accessible. And I would try to make it uncomplicated. Serge "Jim Sellars" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem.com@mylist.net 2005-05-09 14:45 Veuillez répondre à Jim Sellars; Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-09 14:45 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section Guys: There is another consideration, if you think that you will need to replace a cable do it right the first time. If you need to inspect it you probably can see what you need to see with a mirror probe and a look through the tail section openings. Too much complication is unnecessary on this little bird (personal view), and we could just go flying. If you discover at an annual that you need to get in there( the back end of the plane) cut a hole then and make the repairs needed and seal it up after, until the next time, ( probably years away). The old rule is make it light, keep it simple, fly it high and fast, smile. Best regards Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 1:49 AM Subject: RE: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section >I had an oval shaped one on one side only about 6" tall and 8" wide. >It >was > about evan at the front with the front of the stab. It worked good and I > could get to everything I needed to. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Serge VIDAL > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 11:41 AM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Inspection hatch, tail section > > > I will have to make one or several inspection hatches on my tail section, > for the following reasons: > 1 - I need to replace the elevator cables; > 2 - I need to remove the tail wheel spring; > 3 - I need to be able to inspect the rudder and elevator hinges nuts. > > The more I think of it, the more I end up thinking that one large hole > each side will serve my purpose better than three or four tiny ones. > If I > make these holes under the horizontal stabilizer, I will probably be able > to do everything except replacing the top elevator cable. > > Has anybody been there, done that already? > How big can I make that hole? > Where should I drill the hole? > I was thinking of maybe 120mm (4.75") opening, right in the middle of the > compartment. > > Any idea for the top elevator cable? > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 15:32:39 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> Talking about hinges... To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" By the way, the horizontal stabilizer on my KR2 shows on the paint alongside the contour of the hinges. Did anybody experience that? Serge VIDAL KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:35:23 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Hot Mag problem !!! To: "Terry Teer" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000901c554a4$565e2f70$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original How do you check and identify the problem? Hello Terry By design, the mag is always hot except when it is physically connected to ground. The wire that connects to the mag is a ground wire. If the wire is not connected or if the wire breaks internally (creates an open), then the mag is hot. Since you changed the switch, I suggest that you connect a wire from the mag terminal to ground an see if stops working. If so, then the problem is in the wire from the mag to the switch. Another common problem is that an unknowledgeable person will sometimes fail to realize that with an aircraft ignition switch that it is easy to wire it incorrectly. Remember that the mag does not require electricity to work, it only needs to be grounded to stop working. When you perform a mag check, the mag that is being tested for function will have an open circuit and the mag that is not being tested will be grounded. I hope this helps Orma L. Robbiins AP/IA Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:04:10 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> Clapp's cowling and prop for sale To: "KRnet" , "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" Message-ID: <022401c554a8$5aca3f50$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The following is from Bill Clapp, as conveyed by William Wynne. Don't reply by email, just call the number below...... KR/Corvair parts for sale: Bill Clapp is changing his flying KR-2S to a new 601 cowling style. He'll be flight testing a new 601 style cowling. He's offering his Mark Langford style, completely finished KR-2S cowling for sale, along with the appropriate spinner and bulkheads, a 2" spacer to fit on top of a WW hub, and a Prince Q-tip 52x50 prop, which he flew most of last year. This prop is appropriate for any Corvair powered KR which needs a strong climb rate, and has a top speed below 175mph. The cowling is complete with all the fasteners, and includes some baffling. Bill is working out of my shop this week and can be reached on the hangar phone at (386) 478-0396. Bill's price is $1,000. -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 10:00:27 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Hot Mag problem !!! To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050509100027.00826840@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I replaced the switch and the problem is still there. the left mag, reduced rpm, the right no drop. I believe the mag is a bendix d-3000. How do you check and identify the problem? >Terry +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I've not seen an answer to your question so I'll throw this out and anyone that sees an error in my reply can speak up. Use an ohm meter. If you don't have one and/or don't know how to use one, grab a friend that does. It shouldn't take very long to identify the problem. With the mag switch(s) off, you are looking for the "P" lead on the mag to be grounded, hence the term "grounding out the mags". Attach one lead of the ohm meter to the "P" lead and the other to aircraft ground. With the switches off, you should read "0" ohms or whatever your meter reads with the leads shorted together. With the mag switch "on", the meter should read "infinate" or full scale, or some digitals will read blank. If that check fails, leave the one lead grounded to aircraft ground and make the same check on the mag switch where that mag wire is attached. If that checks good, replace the"P" lead wire. If not, check the ground wire to the mag switch. You should read "0" ohm between that and aircraft ground. It's probly o.k. if the one mag is grounding out. Make sure you have a good ground between your engine and the point on the airframe (ground buss ? ) where everything is grounded. Most likely fault is the switch but bad "P" lead is a possibility. You might want to consider going to a different type of mag switch setup, two toggle switches, etc. to eliminate the problem in the future. If you go with a toggle, wire the aircraft ground to the "common" ( C ) terminal. Hook the "P" lead to the "normally closed" ( NC ) contact. With the switch in the "OFF" position the mag should be "grounded". When you flip the toggle to the "ON" position, the "normally closed" contact opens and the mag would be HOT. On a toggle or Micro switch that is labeled "C", "NO", and "NC", the "common" is obvious. It is connected to both sets of contacts. The "NO" and "NC" indicates the state of that set of contacts when the switch is "OFF" or "deactuated". They BOTH go to the opposite state when the switch is "ON" or "actuated". Clear as mud, right??? Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:38:04 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: KR> Phone number To: "corvaircraft" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <002b01c554bd$db42afe0$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters and Vairheads Doe's anyone have a good number for WW hanger,I have called the one on the manual for a couple of weeks now and get no answer.I have also called his cell phone and the mailbox on it is full.The number I have is (386)756-2041 Thanks in advance....Bob ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:16:47 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005519181647906@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII If I recall correctly the Huey had a engine compartment fire warning system that was simply a wire that would ground if the insulation was melted off of it then activate a light in the cockpit. Simple and reliable. I was in Memphis TN in January and visited the local EAA hanger where I meet a Mr Flowers (Can't recall his first name) and looked over his airplane. I noticed a large fire bottle behind the seat and ask about it. He had a tube from the fire bottle to the engine compartment with 4 nozzles in the engine compartment and a handle to activate the extinguisher. When I returned home I got my Kit Plane magazine out of the mail there was an article on that same airplane. I don't keep my magazines so I can't give any more details on it but maybe someone still has the mag. He said he had bought the fire system from an auto supply which caters to the racing industry. I have checked Jegs and Summit websites and haven't found it. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: haroldwoods > To: > Date: 5/8/2005 5:04:41 PM > Subject: KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. > > H Netter. > Sport Aviation had a suggestion, a long time ago about carburetor > fires. They suggested a Halon fire extinguisher in the cockpit area be plumbed with a hose into the engine compartment and be delivered into the throat of the air supply into the carburetor. It would be a good idea to have a sensor that would detect a fire and light up a bright red light in the instrument panel. > I already have my Halon extinguisher but can anyone suggest a fire detection system? > Regards > Harold Woods > Orillia,ON. Can. > > haroldwoods@rogers.com _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:17:22 -0500 From: "Wesley Scott" Subject: KR> Langford vs Oshkosh To: Message-ID: <004301c554c3$5a2e5930$26f87147@pbrain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The Oshkosh forums schedule is up. The KR forum is July 25, 1:00 PM - 2:15 PM. http://www.airventure.org/forums/presenter.asp?EventID=12&PresenterID=1522 Look at the bio. It doesn't say anything about having flown a KR. So Mark, did you give up on flying before Oshkosh or did they just use last years bio? -- wesley scott kr2@spottedowl.biz ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:26:48 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: KR> Mid -Atlantic Fylin and airshow To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" , "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <410-22005519182648140@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Will anyone on the nets be coming to the Mid-Alantic airshow in Lumberton NC. this week. It starts on Thursday and goes through Sunday. I will be there all day Saturday and would like to meet anyone who will be there. I'll have my cell phone with me so give me a call at (910)964-0653. Jack Cooper kr2cooper@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:30:35 +0200 From: "Dene Collett (SA)" Subject: KR> N1213W To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000001c554c5$c32ca2a0$a19eef9b@DeneCollett> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can someone tell me who is the owner of N1213W please. Is he on this list, I would like to get in touch with him. This must surely be the sleeeeekest KR out there! Regards Dene Collett South Africa KR2SRT builder mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net www.whisperaircraft.co.za ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:39:52 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Langford vs Oshkosh To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <034201c554c6$7ce83e20$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wesley Scott wrote: > The Oshkosh forums schedule is up. The KR forum is July 25, 1:00 PM - 2:15 > PM. > http://www.airventure.org/forums/presenter.asp?EventID=12&PresenterID= > 1522 > > Look at the bio. It doesn't say anything about having flown a KR. > > So Mark, did you give up on flying before Oshkosh or did they just use last > years bio? Well, I guess I've "flown" a few, but much, and not the highly modified one that the bio mentions. I have every intention of flying to OSH this year though, weather permitting. Unlike the Gathering though, I won't leave early to get good weather. I usually only stay one day at OSH (just enough for the forum and to see what's new), so it's not worth flying up a few days early or flying home a few days late. So although it will be flying by OSH, I still won't swear that N56ML will be at OSH year year. I almost mentioned mine being flying by then, but thought it might be a bit presumptious when I filled that out a month ago or so... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:14:56 -0500 From: rhartwig11@juno.com Subject: KR> N1213W To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050509.141456.3020.3.rhartwig11@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dean, If you want info on an N number just do a Google search on it: The info on Jeff Scott's N1213W is at: http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/NNumSQL.asp?NNumbertxt=1213W Dick H ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:48:57 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> N1213W To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050509.134924.11993.150901@webmail26.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain Wow! You know how to make a builder really feel good! (blush, blush) Actually, my KR is quickly becoming old hat at 8 years old and 500+ hours. It is scheduled for major renovations after I return from the "South West Regional Fly In" in Texas next weekend. I hope to have it finished and repainted in time for the KR gathering in the fall. Best regards, Jeff Scott N1213W -- "Dene Collett (SA)" wrote: Can someone tell me who is the owner of N1213W please. Is he on this list, I would like to get in touch with him. This must surely be the sleeeeekest KR out there! Regards Dene Collett South Africa KR2SRT builder mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net www.whisperaircraft.co.za ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:12:15 -0800 From: "Al Friesen" Subject: Re: KR> N1213W To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001801c554e4$28adc280$8bf451cf@alk1e9f7i3pcg3> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jeff, What makes a KR old? Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Scott" To: Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: KR> N1213W > > Wow! You know how to make a builder really feel good! (blush, blush) > Actually, my KR is quickly becoming old hat at 8 years old and 500+ hours. > It is scheduled for major renovations after I return from the "South West > Regional Fly In" in Texas next weekend. I hope to have it finished and > repainted in time for the KR gathering in the fall. > > Best regards, > > Jeff Scott > N1213W > > -- "Dene Collett (SA)" wrote: > Can someone tell me who is the owner of N1213W please. Is he on this > list, > I would like to get in touch with him. This must surely be the sleeeeekest > KR out there! > Regards > Dene Collett > South Africa > KR2SRT builder > mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net > www.whisperaircraft.co.za > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 5/9/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:06:31 -0400 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR> fire control in the engine comparetment. To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <004a01c554da$fb218990$111cda42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original >If I recall correctly the Huey had a engine compartment fire warning >system that was simply a wire that would ground if the insulation was >melted off of it then activate a light in the cockpit. Simple and >reliable. The Huey (and SH-3/S-61, among others) fire element was a thin aluminum (@ 1/16") tube with a wire in the center which was held away from the inside wall of the tube by some kind of low melting point salt crystal. When the salt melted at high temp. (or when some Marine stepped on it with his size 16 boondockers) the two wires would ground out and you would get a light in the cockpit. Unfortunately, the controller ran on 26 volts AC. >When I returned home I got my Kit Plane magazine out of the mail there >was >an article on that same >airplane. Are you sure it was Kitplane? I've just run a page-flip search from Oct. 04 to present (June 05) with no hits. The fire bottle plumbed to the engine area sounds like a very good idea though. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:30:41 -0800 From: "Al Friesen" Subject: Re: KR> N1213W To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002201c554e6$bb6dbe70$8bf451cf@alk1e9f7i3pcg3> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jeff, If I am near to you next winter I will see your old KR. I have 150+hours on mine and am enjoying it. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Friesen" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: Re: KR> N1213W > Jeff, > What makes a KR old? Al > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Scott" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: KR> N1213W > > >> >> Wow! You know how to make a builder really feel good! (blush, >> blush) Actually, my KR is quickly becoming old hat at 8 years old and >> 500+ hours. It is scheduled for major renovations after I return from >> the "South West Regional Fly In" in Texas next weekend. I hope to >> have it finished and repainted in time for the KR gathering in the >> fall. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Jeff Scott >> N1213W >> >> -- "Dene Collett (SA)" wrote: Can someone >> tell me who is the owner of N1213W please. Is he on this list, >> I would like to get in touch with him. This must surely be the >> sleeeeekest >> KR out there! >> Regards >> Dene Collett >> South Africa >> KR2SRT builder >> mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net >> www.whisperaircraft.co.za >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 5/9/2005 >> >> > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 5/9/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 21:25:02 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> N1213W To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050509.142506.11993.151488@webmail26.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain As some of the old timers to the KRNet may recall, my KR was one of the first to fly once we had begun collaborating via the KRNet. Since that time, the KRNet membership has really recreated the design with a number of improvements that, IMHO, religates mine to "old KR" or "old design" status. -Jeff -- "Al Friesen" wrote: Jeff, What makes a KR old? Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Scott" To: Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: Re: KR> N1213W > > Wow! You know how to make a builder really feel good! (blush, blush) > Actually, my KR is quickly becoming old hat at 8 years old and 500+ hours. > It is scheduled for major renovations after I return from the "South West > Regional Fly In" in Texas next weekend. I hope to have it finished and > repainted in time for the KR gathering in the fall. > > Best regards, > > Jeff Scott > N1213W > > -- "Dene Collett (SA)" wrote: > Can someone tell me who is the owner of N1213W please. Is he on this list, > I would like to get in touch with him. This must surely be the sleeeeekest > KR out there! > Regards > Dene Collett > South Africa > KR2SRT builder > mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net > www.whisperaircraft.co.za > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 5/9/2005 > > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 183 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================