From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 190 Date: 5/12/2005 6:24:04 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Cat Shit (danrh@alltel.net) 2. RE: KR speeds (Mark Jones) 3. RE: engines (Jeff Scott) 4. Re: KR2S for Xplane? (Ameet Savant) 5. RE: engines (Donald Reid) 6. Re: Legal to carry passengers? (Steve Eberhart) 7. RE: Todd’s Canopy for Sale? (Jack Cooper) 8. RE:Legal to carry passengers? (Wesley Scott) 9. test (sorry, no need to open) (Steve Eberhart) 10. seast belt colours (haroldwoods) 11. Re: NON KR related - need some cat 'assistance' (Larry Deckert) 12. Re: KR speeds (joe) 13. Re: Canopy (Randolph R. Clark) 14. Re: Fitting Todd's Canopy (Scott Cable) 15. Test Disregard (Eric Pitts) 16. Re: KR speeds MPH ? (Phillip Matheson) 17. Re: engines (Bob Glidden) 18. Re: KR speeds MPH ? (Bob Glidden) 19. Re: KR speeds MPH ? (Dan Heath) 20. airspeed list (joe) 21. Re: airspeed list (Dan Heath) 22. Sign your E-mail (Mark Jones) 23. Re: airspeed list (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 7:38:46 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Cat Shit To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050512123846.RNKY15030.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Don't know how y'all feel about this, but I have seen enough of it. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:49:04 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> KR speeds To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549DA86@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Take off roll rotate at 60 mph, lift off is between 65-70 mph. Climb 90 mph for 1150 fpm climb. Enter downwind at 100-110 mph. Reduce power and turn base, 90 mph base leg. Turn final, drop speed brake 1/2 way down maintain 85 mph. 1/2 mile out, full deflected speed brake, speed bleeds to 80 mph. Over the numbers at 70 mph. Flare and hold off till touch down at 65. With the new airfoil, my KR will not float far in ground effect, rather she will set right down and stay there. Note: I have made landings at speeds as high as 90 mph at touchdown but used about 3/4 of the runway to stop at high speed landing. Touching down at 65 mph my KR will stop in 1/3 or the runway length. I use a 3000' paved runway. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI -----Original Message----- OK, I hate to be this way, but this one's for real KR pilots only. Please send me your speeds....rotation, climbout, pattern, approach, and approximate touchdown speeds, and anything else that a prospective KR test pilot might need. And it might not hurt to remind me what engine you have in it, and whether or not you have flaps or belly board. I might need these one of these days... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:45:58 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: RE: KR> engines To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050512.064642.24043.193986@webmail11.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain Don, The application of the rules have changed with regards to certified engines in experimentals. They used to be exempt from Airworthyness Directives, but now the FAA has chosen to enforce the ADs. A friend of mine had a mishap with his experimental last fall after 5" departed from one prop blade. While reviewing the aircraft logs, the FAA wanted his logs and informed him that they would be looking for compliance with all applicable ADs for the O-320-H2 engine on his plane. A certified engine on an experiemental is now required to comply with ADs. Not really a change in regulation by the FAA, but instead is a change in the interpretation of the regulations. Having said that, the vast majority of ADs exist for safety reasons and are based on long term experience with failure of that engine or part. It is usually in your best interest to install the applicable ADs anyway. Here's where it gets into some of the nits that people will undoubtedly want to pick. If you are using a certified part, the ADs apply. For instance, many of the dual ignition revmaster engines use the Bendix single drive dual magneto. If that magneto is the same part number as the ones on a certified engine, or the serial number falls into the range of serial numbers for that type for which an AD has been issued, that AD also applies to that magneto on the Revmaster engine. OK, the question was posed earlier about building your own engine using a Continental crank and case, but Chevy pistons. In this example, any AD that applies to the crank and case would apply. Any AD that applies to the piston, would not. What if it's an O-290 GPU? Non of those parts are certified. ADs would apply to certified parts that would be installed, such as Magnetos, carb, oil cooler. The would not apply to the base engine and case as they are not certified parts. Even the oil pump AD would not apply. However, it would be in your best interest to comply anyway as there is a reason for the AD. I've seen the condition of some of the pump gears that have been removed. Bottom line here is that the ADs only apply to the certified parts. -Jeff Scott ------------------------------------------------------------- At 11:00 PM 5/11/2005, you wrote: >Speaking of certified engines, there is one gotcha I learned about that >you need to be aware of if you use one. > >When you use a certified engine in an experimental you are required to >comply with all the A.D.s. This is not correct. Your DAR was mistaken. When a certificated engine is installed in an experimental aircraft, ADs and service bulletins do not need to be complied with. There is one exception to this general rule and that is when a previously certificated engine is removed from an experimental and re-installed in a certificated airplane. In this case, all ADs must be in compliance. If your DAR raised (or raises) the issue, all you have to do is remove the data plate. Don Reid - donreid "at" peoplepc.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: AeroFoil, a 2-D Airfoil Design And Analysis Computer Program: http://aerofoilengineering.com KR2XL construction: http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/KR2XL.htm Aviation Surplus: http://aerofoilengineering.com/PartsListing/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:49:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Ameet Savant Subject: Re: KR> KR2S for Xplane? To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050512134936.22756.qmail@web60820.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bart, Yes, Dan Heath and I put together a KR2 X-plane model. I have two models, One as per plans and one as per Langford's modifications. Not all modifications, just the incidence and decalage. So far as flying it is concerned, it is a little too touchy compared to the real thing (so I have been told). But the good thing is you can tweak it further to be more true to the real flight model. My personal experience is that Mark's modifications help in stability. If you want, I can email it to you. The reason it is not put online anywhere is because it is not close enough to the real thing yet and is a work in progress (progress.... sort of :o)) Cheerios! Ameet Savant ameetsavant yahoo com --- Bart Ferguson wrote: > Well I've looked through the archives and found > some reference to > somebody creating a flight model for X Plane, but > haven't yet come > across one online. Has anyone put one together? FWIW > it seems a lot > harder to fly than a real aircraft but then again > need a set of real > controls and not just a toystick. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:48:39 -0400 From: Donald Reid Subject: RE: KR> engines To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20050512103712.01b339e8@mail.peoplepc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:45 AM 5/12/2005, you wrote: >The application of the rules have changed with regards to certified >engines in experimentals. They used to be exempt from Airworthyness >Directives, but now the FAA has chosen to enforce the ADs. (...snip...) A >certified engine on an experiemental is now required to comply with >ADs. Not really a change in regulation by the FAA, but instead is a >change in the interpretation of the regulations. Could this be a regional interpretation? Can anyone else comment? >Having said that, the vast majority of ADs exist for safety reasons and >are based on long term experience with failure of that engine or part. It >is usually in your best interest to install the applicable ADs anyway. I could not agree more. >Here's where it gets into some of the nits that people will undoubtedly >want to pick. If you are using a certified part, the ADs apply. For >instance, many of the dual ignition revmaster engines use the Bendix >single drive dual magneto. If that magneto is the same part number as the >ones on a certified engine, or the serial number falls into the range of >serial numbers for that type for which an AD has been issued, that AD also >applies to that magneto on the Revmaster engine. > >OK, the question was posed earlier about building your own engine using >a >Continental crank and case, but Chevy pistons. In this example, any AD >that applies to the crank and case would apply. Any AD that applies to >the piston, would not. However, as soon as you install a non-certificated part on a certificated engine without proper paperwork (such as Form 337 or STC), the original certification becomes invalid if it is used in a certificated application. A non-certificated engine should not need to comply with the requirements of certification. Simple solution, remove the original data plate and install your own. Comply with the ADs and service bulletins as you see fit. Don Reid - donreid "at" peoplepc.com Bumpass, Va Visit my web sites at: AeroFoil, a 2-D Airfoil Design And Analysis Computer Program: http://aerofoilengineering.com KR2XL construction: http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/KR2XL.htm Aviation Surplus: http://aerofoilengineering.com/PartsListing/Airparts.htm EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org Ultralights: http://usua250.org VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:52:49 -0500 From: Steve Eberhart Subject: Re: KR> Legal to carry passengers? To: KRnet Message-ID: <42836DC1.9010301@newtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Mark Jones wrote: >The FAA is underscoring regulatory requirements for pilots who fly >passengers in homebuilt aircraft. A new notice would restrict them to flying passengers only in planes in which they are qualified and experienced. Currency and proficiency rules apply to those who take people for rides in their experimental aircraft and EAA says current pilots have until Aug. 31, 2005, to prove they have the necessary category and class ratings for the aircraft they fly. Those who always fly solo will not need to fly through the bureaucratic hoops. Under the new notice, which was issued April 21, affected pilots will have fill out a form and make sure their recreational or higher certificate is in order. Flying passengers requires that the pilot have at least five hours as PIC in the category, class, make and model of the experimental aircraft in question between Sept. 1, 2004, and Aug. 31, 2005. An authorized flight instructor must make a logbook entry attesting to the pilot's proficiency with the aircraft and then the pilot must show the log to a designated pilot examiner or FAA Operations Inspector. A new pilot certificate will then be issued restricting the pilot to flying that particular experimental aircraft (or any others for which he or she has done the paperwork). > > > I don't think it is as bad as it originally sounded. I think it is basically what we have now. If your license is PP-SEL then you are good to go for certified and experimental SEL. THis is from the EAA's web site: 6. The new pilot certificate will be issued with the following restriction placed on it: “Authorized Experimental Aircraft: (category) and (class), (make) and (model).” Examples: a. Pilots who hold a private pilot SEL airplane category and class rating certificate, and fly a SEL experimental aircraft, no action is required. b. Pilots who hold a private pilot SEL airplane category and class rating certificate, and fly a multi-engine experimental aircraft (MEL), will need to comply with the new requirements. c. Pilots who hold a private pilot SEL airplane category and class rating certificate, and who fly an experimental single-engine sea plane, will need to comply with the new requirements. d. Pilots who hold a private pilot Glider category and class rating certificate, and who fly an experimental single-engine helicopter, will need to comply with the new requirements. Steve Eberhart ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:34:27 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Todd’s Canopy for Sale? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-220055412163427281@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Yes, I have a clear Todd's canopy for sale, but it has one problem, an approximately 10" crack up the left side. That was the loud crack sound followed by very loud crying everyone heard yesterday. I'm sure it was heard by everyone east of the Mississippi.. It is still echoing in my head but Todd has eased my pain by selling me another at a discounted price.Thanks Todd. The canopy may still be useful for someone building a Dan Heath type of canopy. If interested in a cheep Todd's canopy with a crack, email me. I'll send some pictures. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 5/11/2005 7:38:18 PM > Subject: KR> Todd’s Canopy for Sale? > > Anyone selling a clear Todd’s Canopy? (Steve Glover came to visit my project recently and I’m really jazzed to get back to building!) > > Rick Coykendall > rickcoy@comcast.net > Pacifica, CA > 650-359-4723 > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:55:32 -0500 From: "Wesley Scott" Subject: KR> RE:Legal to carry passengers? To: "krnet" Message-ID: <000c01c55713$6a629d50$26f87147@pbrain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" After looking at the EAA site and its links to FAA this doesn't look like that big of an issue. http://www.eaa.org/communications/eaanews/050509_rating.html At least for those of us who were silly enough to think that if you wanted to fly a multi-engine experimental you had to have a multi-engine rating. Apparently that wasn't the case and this new "grandfathering" system will allow you to fly the "Barnburner 5000" multi-engine with your PPSEL certificate. -- wesley scott kr2@spottedowl.biz Message: 19 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 07:19:37 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Legal to carry passengers? To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549DA85@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The FAA is underscoring regulatory requirements for pilots who fly passengers in homebuilt aircraft. A new notice would restrict them to flying passengers only in planes in which they are qualified and experienced. Currency and proficiency rules apply to those who take people for rides in their experimental aircraft and EAA says current pilots have until Aug. 31, 2005, to prove they have the necessary category and class ratings for the aircraft they fly. Those who always fly solo will not need to fly through the bureaucratic hoops. Under the new notice, which was issued April 21, affected pilots will have fill out a form and make sure their recreational or higher certificate is in order. Flying passengers requires that the pilot have at least five hours as PIC in the category, class, make and model of the experimental aircraft in question between Sept. 1, 2004, and Aug. 31, 2005. An authorized flight instructor must make a logbook entry attesting to the pilot's proficiency with the aircraft and then the pilot must show the log to a designated pilot examiner or FAA Operations Inspector. A new pilot certificate will then be issued restricting the pilot to flying that particular experimental aircraft (or any others for which he or she has done the paperwork). Mark Jones (N886MJ Wales, WI ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:56:20 -0500 From: Steve Eberhart Subject: KR> test (sorry, no need to open) To: KRnet Message-ID: <42838AB4.4070705@newtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed testing a new mail server Steve Eberhart ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:32:09 -0400 From: "haroldwoods" Subject: KR> seast belt colours To: Message-ID: <009301c55718$86e392e0$0501a8c0@HAROLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Netters. If you do not like thte colour of your seat belts, get your wife to make you slip-ons of light fabric of the colour that you like. Held together with light plastic zippers or velcro. When they get dirty, take them off and wash them. Regards, Harold Woods Orillia, ON. Can haroldwoods@rogers.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 12:46:04 -0600 From: "Larry Deckert" Subject: Re: KR> NON KR related - need some cat 'assistance' To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c55722$ed3204f0$0300a8c0@LARRYS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks everyone "for your support" ;) I liked the salt idea, but my Lady would make me sleep on the back porch! I think I'll try the moth balls first, just to see;) Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martindale Family" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:14 AM Subject: Re: KR> NON KR related - need some cat 'assistance' > We've got some stuff called "Puss off" over here. I think it's bottled > dog fart. John > > The Martindale Family > 29 Jane Circuit > TOORMINA NSW 2452 > AUSTRALIA > > phone: 61 2 66584767 > email: johnjanet@optusnet.com.au > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 13:07:45 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: Re: KR> KR speeds To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008d01c5572e$44264cc0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What about cruise and vne. If the speeds you requested vary from aircraft modifications. Would it necessarily follow that other speeds may be effected? I may be all wet on this one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:51 PM Subject: KR> KR speeds > OK, I hate to be this way, but this one's for real KR pilots only. > Please send me your speeds....rotation, climbout, pattern, approach, > and approximate touchdown speeds, and anything else that a prospective > KR test pilot might need. And it might not hurt to remind me what > engine you have in it, and whether or not you have flaps or belly > board. I might need these > one of these days... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:20:28 -0500 From: "Randolph R. Clark" Subject: Re: KR> Canopy To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008201c55730$0a156c30$929ef53f@clarks> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jim, I built my KR in 1986. My 1835 eng still performs well. I have double ignitions but no starter. My 8 amp alt. is in the wing with a small 4 bladed prop that spins it up nicely. My canopy opens to the side and is held in place by 2 aluminum tubes connected in the middle by a spring in between the tubes so they stay together when I drop the canopy. When I open the canopy a small overlapping tube slides over the connection to hold the 2 alum. tubes straight. I have a small wire that drops down to connect to the instr. panel to hold everything solid. Airplane weighs about 540 lbs and flys well kept light. Randy Clark Salina, Ks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Morehead" To: "KR- Net" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: KR> Canopy > Netters, > A few KR Gatherings ago there was a stock KR with the side opening > canopy. Instead of a gas strut to hold the canopy open he used two > aluminum tubes end to end with a cord running through them. If the > owner of that KR > reads this or anyone that knows the owner, I would like to get in contact > with him. > > Thanks, > Jim Morehead > Cameron Park, CA > > Working on the panel. > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: Re: KR> Fitting Todd's Canopy To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050512221848.58187.qmail@web53004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Phil, Best of luck, I hope it turns out well. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks to Dan Heath also for posting my photos Phillip Matheson wrote: Scott I have spent any hours going over your web page, and I think I will be doing a very similar Deck to yours. I'll let you know. Thanks for your great web photo's and info. Scott Cable KR-2S # 735 Wright City, MO s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:22:32 -0500 From: "Eric Pitts" Subject: KR> Test Disregard To: "KRNET" Message-ID: <009801c55749$798f7100$e1524a0c@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Test Disregard Eric Pitts Terre Haute Indiana KR2S http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/ ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:39:36 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> KR speeds MPH ? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002b01c5574b$dc228260$71b1dccb@StationW2k04> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have asked this before, and still not sure as to why in the US you use MPH. Are all ASI's in the US calibrated in MPH, or you convert from knots. I know the conversion is not difficult, but why?. For some reason I thought all aircraft use Knots as the ASI calibration?? Just a question. Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:40:42 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> engines To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <014701c5574c$030e0a70$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Actually his DAR is right on the money.If you put a certified engine in a experimental and have it inspected as a certified engine and signed off as such,you do have to comply with all applicable AD's,but you can have the same engine installed and not have it signed off as certified and get around the issue.However you are then subject to the 40 hr test flight rules and not the 25 Hrs given for certified engines.Been there argued with FAA and lost.And FAR's are not regional they are the same everywhere,just some FSDO's don't know there own rules..... >>When you use a certified engine in an experimental you are required to >>comply with all the A.D.s. > > > This is not correct. Your DAR was mistaken. When a certificated > engine > is > installed in an experimental aircraft, ADs and service bulletins do not > need to be complied with. > > There is one exception to this general rule and that is when a > previously certificated engine is removed from an experimental and > re-installed in a certificated airplane. In this case, all ADs must > be in compliance. > > If your DAR raised (or raises) the issue, all you have to do is remove > the data plate. > > > > Don Reid - donreid "at" peoplepc.com > Bumpass, Va > > Visit my web sites at: > > AeroFoil, a 2-D Airfoil Design And Analysis Computer Program: > http://aerofoilengineering.com > > KR2XL construction: http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/KR2XL.htm > Aviation Surplus: > http://aerofoilengineering.com/PartsListing/Airparts.htm > EAA Chapter 231: http://eaa231.org > Ultralights: http://usua250.org > VA EAA State Fly-in: http://vaeaa.org > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:42:09 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> KR speeds MPH ? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <014f01c5574c$36c09950$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Phil Some have both,but most are in knots... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:39 PM Subject: Re: KR> KR speeds MPH ? >I have asked this before, and still not sure as to why in the US you >use MPH. Are all ASI's in the US calibrated in MPH, or you convert >from knots. > > I know the conversion is not difficult, but why?. > > For some reason I thought all aircraft use Knots as the ASI > calibration?? Just a question. > > > Phillip Matheson > matheson@dodo.com.au > Australia > VH PKR > See our engines and kits at. > http://www.vw-engines.com/ > http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > See my KR Construction web page at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:07:48 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR speeds MPH ? To: Message-ID: <4283EFD4.000009.02288@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We probably use MPH because our other vehicles are all in MPH and we can relate to MPH better than we can to knots. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- why in the US you use MPH. ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:42:05 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: KR> airspeed list To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001601c55754$971da920$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If anyone is interested, I would attempt to publish a list of airspeeds achieved by KR builders. This list would take into consideration any custom modifications made to ENGINE and/or AIRFRAME. I would construct a SURVEY form, with help from KRnet members, to be filled out and submitted for summary and inclusion by reference in the appendix. These would be actual numbers achieved. email addresses would be included if the member permits. ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 21:01:59 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> airspeed list To: Message-ID: <4283FC87.00000B.02288@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think that is a great idea. It will be very helpful for developing the POH and for the first flights. Get it ready cause we will have some numbers for you soon. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- From: joe Date: 05/12/05 20:44:04 To: KRnet Subject: KR> airspeed list If anyone is interested, I would attempt to publish a list of airspeeds achieved by KR builders. This list would take into consideration any custom modifications made to ENGINE and/or AIRFRAME. I would construct a SURVEY form, with help from KRnet members, to be filled out and submitted for summary and inclusion by reference in the appendix. These would be actual numbers achieved. email addresses would be included if the member permits. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:21:40 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Sign your E-mail To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <00d701c5575a$24fa8c40$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Some of you guys never sign your e-mail with your name or location. Why? Do you not want us to know who you are or where you are located? It is pure courtesy to do so.Surely, if you can build an airplane, you can tell us who you are and where you are located. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:23:37 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> airspeed list To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00e501c5575a$6b9f43c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think it is a great idea too. I just wish I knew which Joe this is offering to do this. Hmmm...let me guess.... Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: Re: KR> airspeed list > I think that is a great idea. It will be very helpful for developing > the POH and for the first flights. Get it ready cause we will have > some numbers > for you soon. > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a > time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > -------Original Message------- > > From: joe > Date: 05/12/05 20:44:04 > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> airspeed list > > If anyone is interested, I would attempt to publish a list of > airspeeds achieved by KR builders. This list would take into > consideration any custom modifications made to ENGINE and/or AIRFRAME. > > I would construct a SURVEY form, with help from KRnet members, to be > filled out and submitted for summary and inclusion by reference in the > appendix. > > These would be actual numbers achieved. > > email addresses would be included if the member permits. > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 190 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================