From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 192 Date: 5/13/2005 1:19:55 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Sign your E-mail (Robert L. Stone) 2. Off Kr subject cat problem (P.Byington) 3. Re: Off Kr subject cat problem (Dennis Mingear) 4. Re: seast belt colours (Steelef@aol.com) 5. Re: Off Kr subject cat problem (Barry Kruyssen) 6. Re: Do not archive Xpndr cable (Allen Wiesner ) 7. R?f. : Re: KR> Canopy (Serge VIDAL) 8. Airspeed List/ Request for List Composition (joe) 9. KR speeds MPH ? (Serge VIDAL) 10. Signatures (Dan Heath) 11. Dyeing Seat Belts (F Ross) 12. Sanding and painting the WAFs (Serge VIDAL) 13. Re: Sign your E-mail (patrusso) 14. Re: Do not archive Xpndr cable (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 15. Re: Do not archive Xpndr cable (w.higdon9604@comcast.net) 16. gross weight (Jaco Swanepoel) 17. Up for Sale (Mark Jones) 18. Airspeeds Survey/ Email (joe) 19. Re: Off Kr subject cat problem (Aeroeng39@aol.com) 20. New Builder Question!! HELP (N667HU@aol.com) 21. Re: New Builder Question!! HELP (Boeing757mech1@aol.com) 22. RE: New Builder Question!! HELP (Mark Jones) 23. RE: Sanding and painting the WAFs (Doug Rupert) 24. Re: Sanding and painting the WAFs (Mark Langford) 25. SWRFI (Oscar Zuniga) 26. Re: New Builder Question!! HELP (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 23:10:59 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Sign your E-mail To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007201c55771$c5479190$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark, I agree with you 100%. Every one who posts a message on the KRNet should let the readers know who they are and where they live. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:21 PM Subject: KR> Sign your E-mail > Some of you guys never sign your e-mail with your name or location. > Why? > Do you not want us to know who you are or where you are located? It is > pure courtesy to do so.Surely, if you can build an airplane, you can tell > us who you are and where you are located. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 21:28:34 -0700 From: "P.Byington" Subject: KR> Off Kr subject cat problem To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00a301c55774$5f110160$d0e1e404@Byington> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thursday, May 12, 2003 Subject: Cats in the garden Larry; A co-worker told me how she go rid of the same problem. She said that she found this real sticky substance, similar to the sticky rodent traps now available, and put it in her garden. When the cats came to do their number in her flowers, their fur got entangled in the sticky glue and they never came back. I imagine that this will kill two birds with one sticky trap, first, it will make the cats very uncomfortable and probably very chilly, after having to be shaved to free them from the glue, and second, the owner will maybe keep the cats where they belong after having to shave a very unhappy and sticky fur ball. Hope it helps, no I am not sure where you can buy the traps, maybe just use the rodent traps from Lowes'. Thanks Parley Byington N54PB Kr2 Henderson Nv parley@anv.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 21:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> Off Kr subject cat problem To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050513043859.83861.qmail@web51407.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A friend of mine uses cayenne pepper. He bought a very large jar of the stuff at a restaurant supply house. He spreads it around the areas that he wants to keep the cats out of. I've got to tell you that it's pretty funny to see them jerk around with a snoot full of the stuff. After that the smell alone is enough to keep them away. The sticky sheets can also make life miserable for unfortunate birds that happen onto one and that's not fun to watch. Denny ... A cat owner that doesn't let his cats wander about the neighborhood! "P.Byington" wrote: Date: Thursday, May 12, 2003 Subject: Cats in the garden Larry; A co-worker told me how she go rid of the same problem. She said that she found this real sticky substance, similar to the sticky rodent traps now available, and put it in her garden. When the cats came to do their number in her flowers, their fur got entangled in the sticky glue and they never came back. I imagine that this will kill two birds with one sticky trap, first, it will make the cats very uncomfortable and probably very chilly, after having to be shaved to free them from the glue, and second, the owner will maybe keep the cats where they belong after having to shave a very unhappy and sticky fur ball. Hope it helps, no I am not sure where you can buy the traps, maybe just use the rodent traps from Lowes'. Thanks Parley Byington N54PB Kr2 Henderson Nv parley@anv.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. That does not make the monkey patriotic." Scott Ritter --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 00:55:58 EDT From: Steelef@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> seast belt colours To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Brilliant--------- Franc Steel, Hs,Tx ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:45:43 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Off Kr subject cat problem To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003301c55778$3411c900$f400a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How cold is it there, maybe mix up a batch of resin with very little hardener so it takes 12+ hours to go off, that should fix it. I also don't like cats as they kill our natural wild life in my area. happy hunting Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: P.Byington To: KRnet Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: KR> Off Kr subject cat problem Date: Thursday, May 12, 2003 Subject: Cats in the garden Larry; A co-worker told me how she go rid of the same problem. She said that she found this real sticky substance, similar to the sticky rodent traps now available, and put it in her garden. When the cats came to do their number in her flowers, their fur got entangled in the sticky glue and they never came back. I imagine that this will kill two birds with one sticky trap, first, it will make the cats very uncomfortable and probably very chilly, after having to be shaved to free them from the glue, and second, the owner will maybe keep the cats where they belong after having to shave a very unhappy and sticky fur ball. Hope it helps, no I am not sure where you can buy the traps, maybe just use the rodent traps from Lowes'. Thanks Parley Byington N54PB Kr2 Henderson Nv parley@anv.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 02:13:55 -0400 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR> Do not archive Xpndr cable To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003001c55782$f30a7140$a716da42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original >>What is the type of cable to use between the Xpnder and the Xpnder >>antenna? >RG-400 is what is used on most certified planes. RG-58 is cheaper and >will work just as well in the short runs you will have on a KR. If you >use 58 I recommend a good quality like a Belden cable, not the 75% >shielded junk you get at Radio Shack. If possible, get the RG-58 with a solid center conductor, it's easier to work with and has less signal loss. Most local Radio Shack stores (not the mall ones) still have the good stuff, generally it's stored on a big reel (500 feet) in the back. Ask them to cut what you need from it. Stay away from the 5, 10, or 25 foot pre-packaged stuff. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:27:43 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> Canopy To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sounds like a great design, and a pure "KR style" solution. Be sure I will copy that one day! "Randolph R. Clark" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-12 22:20 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-12 22:20 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Canopy Jim, I built my KR in 1986. My 1835 eng still performs well. I have double ignitions but no starter. My 8 amp alt. is in the wing with a small 4 bladed prop that spins it up nicely. My canopy opens to the side and is held in place by 2 aluminum tubes connected in the middle by a spring in between the tubes so they stay together when I drop the canopy. When I open the canopy a small overlapping tube slides over the connection to hold the 2 alum. tubes straight. I have a small wire that drops down to connect to the instr. panel to hold everything solid. Airplane weighs about 540 lbs and flys well kept light. Randy Clark Salina, Ks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Morehead" To: "KR- Net" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: KR> Canopy > Netters, > A few KR Gatherings ago there was a stock KR with the side opening > canopy. Instead of a gas strut to hold the canopy open he used two > aluminum tubes end to end with a cord running through them. If the > owner of that > KR > reads this or anyone that knows the owner, I would like to get in contact > with him. > > Thanks, > Jim Morehead > Cameron Park, CA > > Working on the panel. > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 01:42:25 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: KR> Airspeed List/ Request for List Composition To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003201c55797$b12690a0$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Joe Coggiano This first request is for suggestions for the list composition. (i.e. information categories; summaries; appendices). Relevancy should pertain to airspeeds as actually experienced. This information will be used to design the AIRSPEED SURVEY. Thank You ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:58:26 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> KR speeds MPH ? To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Phil, After WWII, all the US manufacturers tried to market private aircraft as "an extra car, only faster". If you have a look at, say, a Cessna 172, you will notice that all accessories like door handles, windows retainers, etc. are car stuff from the 1950's, and this is not by chance! Aircraft had to look as familiar as possible to the average driver. American people relate to mph better, so they started making dual dials (because any serious navigation demands kts, they could not get rid of kts). Trouble with a dual dial is when you have huge markings in mph and small markings in kts, it's kind of difficult to work with kts. I have a dual dial, so although I hate working with mph, I use them for speed control... but not for navigation. Another thing I hate about it is the setting window, which is graduated in inches of mercury, when no control tower will give you anything else than milibars. So, I have a to stick conversion table on my instrument panel. I guess one day I will bite the bullet and buy another one. Russian aircraft are a lot of fun. The Russians comply with the International Standard System (SI), so absolutely everything is metric. Speeds are in kilometers per hour, altitudes in meters (with altimeter setting in kpa), pressures in KPa, and so on. While flying a Russian built aircraft, I once made a very bad mistake on approach, having established my descent rate at 500 per minute. On short final, I finally realized that that was awfully wrong. I had forgotten the dial was in METERS per minute, so the descent rate was about 1500' per minute! The aircraft probably still remembers the bounce that followed! Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "Phillip Matheson" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-05-13 01:39 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-05-13 01:40 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> KR speeds MPH ? I have asked this before, and still not sure as to why in the US you use MPH. Are all ASI's in the US calibrated in MPH, or you convert from knots. I know the conversion is not difficult, but why?. For some reason I thought all aircraft use Knots as the ASI calibration?? Just a question. Phillip Matheson matheson@dodo.com.au Australia VH PKR See our engines and kits at. http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ See my KR Construction web page at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/FlyingKRPhil/VHPKR.html Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 05:14:13 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Signatures To: Message-ID: <42846FE5.000015.02288@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe some of you are not aware that your e-mail system most likely can automatically add a signature to your messages. If mine did not, then there is no way that I would remember or take the time to add this signature to all of my messages. Soon, it is going to say "The building IS over and the flying has begun". The exhaust pipes are back from Jet-Hot and I am doing the finishing touches to the cowling. We expect to light the engine by the 28th and if that goes well, well.... See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 02:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: F Ross Subject: KR> Dyeing Seat Belts To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050513094958.37040.qmail@web32006.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Be careful that whatever you do use doesn't make big black transfer marks on your clothes after you start using the belts. Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:05:57 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: KR> Sanding and painting the WAFs To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am now ready to repaint my WAFs, but I cannot find any tips in either Tony Bingelis's books, or the AC 4313 about finishing steel parts like the WAFs. I intend to coat them with zinc chromate primer. Questions: 1) Which grit should I use for final sanding? 2) What is the best way to degrease? Should I dip the part in degreaser, or rub it with a cloth soaked in degreaser, or what? 3) Should I heat the part before I paint? 4) Should I heat the part while the paint dries? Should I apply one coat, or several? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 06:36:46 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Sign your E-mail To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003c01c557a7$aa200fb0$78a772d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I AM GUILTY. It is NOT discourtesy, I assumed that my name came at the end of the message automatically. Also,.. oft times the questions are such that a simple reply is all that is needed or perhaps all there is time for. But if I must...I am; Pat Russo, lord god of heaven and earth, omnipotent judge of the living and the dead....etc.,etc.. but living simply and unassumedly here in Bradford, Vermont at patrusso@sover.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KR Net" Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:21 PM Subject: KR> Sign your E-mail > Some of you guys never sign your e-mail with your name or location. > Why? > Do you not want us to know who you are or where you are located? It is > pure courtesy to do so.Surely, if you can build an airplane, you can tell > us who you are and where you are located. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 07:53:50 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Do not archive Xpndr cable To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050513.075959.3724.8.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stranded wire will take more flexing betore breaking, Virg Miami On Fri, 13 May 2005 02:13:55 -0400 "Allen Wiesner " writes: > >>What is the type of cable to use between the Xpnder and the Xpnder > > >>antenna? > > >RG-400 is what is used on most certified planes. RG-58 is cheaper > and will > >work just as well in the short runs you will have on a KR. If you > use 58 I > >recommend a good quality like a Belden cable, not the 75% shielded > junk you > >get at Radio Shack. > > If possible, get the RG-58 with a solid center conductor, it's > easier to > work with and has less signal loss. Most local Radio Shack stores > (not the > mall ones) still have the good stuff, generally it's stored on a big > reel > (500 feet) in the back. Ask them to cut what you need from it. > Stay away > from the 5, 10, or 25 foot pre-packaged stuff. > > Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 > 65 Franklin Street > Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 > > (203) 732-0508 > > flashyal@usadatanet.net > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:21:56 +0000 From: w.higdon9604@comcast.net Subject: Re: KR> Do not archive Xpndr cable To: KRnet Message-ID: <051320051221.24846.42849BE400022E8C0000610E2205886442CBCFC0C702010B090708D299@comcast.net> Tessco will sell it by the ft/meter, and have and will sell you any connector you need for it. Times Microwave 400UF costs a little more but is more flexible. Bill Higdon > Stranded wire will take more flexing betore breaking, Virg > Miami > > On Fri, 13 May 2005 02:13:55 -0400 "Allen Wiesner " > writes: > > >>What is the type of cable to use between the Xpnder and the Xpnder > > > > >>antenna? > > > > >RG-400 is what is used on most certified planes. RG-58 is cheaper > > and will > > >work just as well in the short runs you will have on a KR. If you > > use 58 I > > >recommend a good quality like a Belden cable, not the 75% shielded > > junk you > > >get at Radio Shack. > > > > If possible, get the RG-58 with a solid center conductor, it's > > easier to > > work with and has less signal loss. Most local Radio Shack stores > > (not the > > mall ones) still have the good stuff, generally it's stored on a big > > reel > > (500 feet) in the back. Ask them to cut what you need from it. > > Stay away > > from the 5, 10, or 25 foot pre-packaged stuff. > > > > Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 > > 65 Franklin Street > > Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 > > > > (203) 732-0508 > > > > flashyal@usadatanet.net > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL > www.lubedealer.com/salisbury > Miami ,Fl > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 06:53:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaco Swanepoel Subject: KR> gross weight To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050513135341.54844.qmail@web31715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Guys, The kr2s that I am building should actually be a kr2ss. The problem is this, due to the fact that everything is a bit bigger, the empty weight is obviously higher too. How do I determine the gross weight? Fuselage - 17.55 ft Wings (incl winglets) - 24.18 ft Vertical stabiliser - 3.64 ft Horisontal stabiliser - 6.6 ft Cockpit width - 3.48 ft Turtle deck highest point - 2.97 ft Engine - VW 2L Turbo - fuel injection Any thoughts? Jaco Swanepoel South Africa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:41:24 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Up for Sale To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" , "CorvAircraft \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549DA8B@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My Ellison EFS-2 is up for sale again. The previous buyer backed out of the deal on me so here is your chance again. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/ellisonairfilter.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 09:14:17 -0700 From: "joe" Subject: KR> Airspeeds Survey/ Email To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000c01c557d6$d0e4ca80$0a0110ac@o7p4e3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Joe Coggiano Anyone wishing to send suggestions for information to be included on the airspeeds survey form may email fegbdf@earthlink.net Thank you Joe ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:20:02 EDT From: Aeroeng39@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Off Kr subject cat problem To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <19b.33de2e94.2fb62db2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hey people, Who care's about your cat's. Tired of seeing cat problem in my KR mails. I've got a good cat fix. It's called a .22. No one wants to hear about your menial problems. Keep it KR related like you supposed to. Then the other 3,000 of us that don't give a hoot about your cat won't have to get your ridiculous mail. Peter Sanchez KR2S Apache Junction AZ ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:51:57 EDT From: N667HU@aol.com Subject: KR> New Builder Question!! HELP To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <97.5f784e39.2fb6433d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I need to know if a standard KR Boat can be stretched and widened to become a KR2S. The boat is in good shape and has retractable gear which will be removed for tri-gear. I am really wanting to put a corvair engine on this bird. I am just wondering if it would be better to start from scratch or can I have a head start by getting this boat to work. Thanks, Larry "Getting ready to build N667HU" ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:55:26 EDT From: Boeing757mech1@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> New Builder Question!! HELP To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <79.45739ad1.2fb6440e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 5/13/2005 10:52:43 AM US Mountain Standard Time, N667HU@aol.com writes: start from scratch !!! Chris Theroux Gilbert, AZ ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:11:44 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> New Builder Question!! HELP To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F3549DA8D@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Larry, Stretching and widening an already made boat is not worth the trouble. Stretching is simpler as you could scarf and reinforce everything but to widen it is another matter. You would have to split it down the middle. Just not feasible. I agree with Chris Theroux....start from scratch and build the boat to your needs. Building the boat is actually one of the simpler task of building a KR. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of N667HU@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 12:52 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> New Builder Question!! HELP I need to know if a standard KR Boat can be stretched and widened to become a KR2S. The boat is in good shape and has retractable gear which will be removed for tri-gear. I am really wanting to put a corvair engine on this bird. I am just wondering if it would be better to start from scratch or can I have a head start by getting this boat to work. Thanks, Larry "Getting ready to build N667HU" _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:17:21 -0400 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> Sanding and painting the WAFs To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001e01c557f0$6408c0f0$0704e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Personally speaking Serge I would not sand them as the sanding leaves tiny scratches that are potential stress fracture points. Use chemical paint remover and thoroughly rinse with mineral spirits before a final washing with soap and water. Heating could also ruin the strength properties of the steel unless one knows exactly what they are doing. My preference would be to have them powdercoated and forget about corrosion for the life of the bird. Doug Rupert Simcoe Ontario -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.9 - Release Date: 5/12/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:36:55 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Sanding and painting the WAFs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006701c557f3$1ef02050$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" I can tell you for sure that zinc chromate will flake right off the first time the wings are installed. Mine used to be zinc chromated, but it's hard to tell that now! Best thing is to have them plated somehow, like RR does. Hydrogen embrittlement may be a concern though, so check for compatibilty with 4130 first. Here's something I found in a quick search of the web: "One comment is by a guy who overdrilled a spar bolt hole, and then did a D-I-Y plating job on the bolt to bring it back up to size: >Here's what worked for me: I contacted Caswell Plating (www.caswellplating.com) and bought an 8oz. bottle of their CopyChrome nickel plating solution. Following their directions, I plated the bolt up to 0.377" then baked it at 400° F for 4 hours to take care of any hydrogen embrittlement. It worked great. I also plated some 4130 scraps and was pleased with their appearance. The plating looked like it should be pretty durable. I even soaked a 4130 piece in saltwater overnight and saw no effect. It's not quite chrome, but it looks pretty good. " Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:46:32 -0500 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> SWRFI To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Well, not sure who else is coming down to Hondo for SWRFI, but Jeff Scott (from Los Alamos, NM) landed a short while ago after some weather delays. He had to put down in Sonora (West TX) around lunchtime due to a line of WX, but it was time for lunch anyway I guess. Then the last 30 miles or so west of Hondo he was pretty low over the Hill Country to stay clear of clouds but managed to make it in just fine. That's all I know about activity for now; the official website is at http://www.swrfi.org Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:12:50 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> New Builder Question!! HELP To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050513.161816.3000.5.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Start from scratch! New 2S plans and all, Virg On Fri, 13 May 2005 13:51:57 EDT N667HU@aol.com writes: > I need to know if a standard KR Boat can be stretched and widened to > become > a KR2S. The boat is in good shape and has retractable gear which > will be > removed for tri-gear. I am really wanting to put a corvair engine > on this bird. > I am just wondering if it would be better to start from scratch or > can I > have a head start by getting this boat to work. > > Thanks, > > Larry > "Getting ready to build N667HU" > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 192 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================