From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 228 Date: 6/9/2005 9:00:20 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Foam (jodel@alphalink.com.au) 2. Re: Wanted KR2 (David Hartz) 3. New Member (Peter Drake) 4. R?f. : KR> New Member (Serge VIDAL) 5. WAFs (Peter Drake) 6. New member (John Allum) 7. Re: New member (Peter Drake) 8. RE: New member (Kogelmann Christian - OS TDA) 9. Re: New Member (Phil Spurr) 10. Re: New member (Peter Drake) 11. Re: New Member (patrusso) 12. (no subject) (patrusso) 13. Re: New member (Joseph H. Horton) 14. RE: (no subject) (wilder_jeff Wilder) 15. Engines (Robert L. Stone) 16. Re: New member (Barry Kruyssen) 17. Re: (no subject) (Steve Henderson) 18. KR2- 2180 GPAC Vw rough under 1100-1500 RPM (jeffyork40@qx.net) 19. RE: Canopy Latches (Jack Cooper) 20. Re: Wanted KR2 (abby_lane@netzero.net) 21. red letter date (Mark Langford) 22. Re: WAFs/Outboard ribs. (Louis Staalberg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:15:38 +1000 From: jodel@alphalink.com.au Subject: Re: KR> Foam To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050609041221.M62343@alphalink.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Mark Albert On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:05:26 -0500, Mark Langford wrote > Albert Cassar wrote: > > >Is there a specific gravity for the foam that is used on the KR and > >is the foam part of the structural strength. > > 2 lbs/cubic foot is the density. The foam is not really structural > > (slightly, in compression, I guess you could say), it's really there > to act as a form for the fiberglass. But in the case of a > "sandwich", you could say it's structural. > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, > send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info > at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ___________________________________________________ Alphalink WebMail - http://webmail.alphalink.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:37:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David Hartz Subject: Re: KR> Wanted KR2 To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050609043720.45228.qmail@web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 i have one patialy built.i may be willing to sell. dave 415-505-7995 novato,calif. --- "abby_lane@netzero.com" wrote: > > Are there any KR2's out there for sale. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:00:50 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: KR> New Member To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003401c56cf3$4600fdd0$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Guys Just want to introduce myself to you KRnetters. I live in the UK (near Hereford). I have just taken on a part built KR2s project started by a friend of mine, John Bally about 5 years ago. It has been the home for his chickens since then and needed quite a lot of cleaning up. He had built the basic "boat" and the wing spars. As with most KRs it has had a few mods. The centre wing section has been increased by 6" with a corresponding reduction in the outboard sections to accomodate special air brakes. This has entailed special WAFs to give us a reasonable AUW. Also the fuselage has been extended by 6" at the front and the seats moved forwards to move the Cof G further forwards. The width has been increased by 2" to accomodate us middle-aged men with expanding waist lines! We have just had our first inspection by the PFA (our equivalent to the EAA). I think the inspector was a bit daunted by the age of the project and that he was not familiar with the type (or a fan of foam & fibreglass construction!). I am attracted to the idea of using a Corvair engine, however as we are somewhat restricted on AUW by the PFA (our rules are much more restrictive than yours) we may have to go for something lighter like a Jabiru 120 (blow the expense!) any ideas welcome! I have been following the construction and first flights of Mark's KR and have taken much inspiration from it - Well done Mark! Peter Drake ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:15:16 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> New Member To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Welcome on board, Peter! I am only a short walk away... through the Channel tunnel, of course. 5 years is a very short time for a KR2 project. I have a fellow builder here in France who started his a couple of years after Ken Rand started selling the drawings, and he hopes to complete the building sometimes next year. Engine wise, I am strongly biased towards the VW Type IV with electronic ignition. That would still give you an acceptable AUW for decent power and good reliability. Happy building, Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "Peter Drake" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-06-09 15:00 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-06-09 15:01 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> New Member Hi Guys Just want to introduce myself to you KRnetters. I live in the UK (near Hereford). I have just taken on a part built KR2s project started by a friend of mine, John Bally about 5 years ago. It has been the home for his chickens since then and needed quite a lot of cleaning up. He had built the basic "boat" and the wing spars. As with most KRs it has had a few mods. The centre wing section has been increased by 6" with a corresponding reduction in the outboard sections to accomodate special air brakes. This has entailed special WAFs to give us a reasonable AUW. Also the fuselage has been extended by 6" at the front and the seats moved forwards to move the Cof G further forwards. The width has been increased by 2" to accomodate us middle-aged men with expanding waist lines! We have just had our first inspection by the PFA (our equivalent to the EAA). I think the inspector was a bit daunted by the age of the project and that he was not familiar with the type (or a fan of foam & fibreglass construction!). I am attracted to the idea of using a Corvair engine, however as we are somewhat restricted on AUW by the PFA (our rules are much more restrictive than yours) we may have to go for something lighter like a Jabiru 120 (blow the expense!) any ideas welcome! I have been following the construction and first flights of Mark's KR and have taken much inspiration from it - Well done Mark! Peter Drake _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:37:58 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: KR> WAFs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c56d00$d5277e50$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Can anybody tell me what I should paint or treat the WAFs on my KR2s with? Also (the plans are so faded I can hardly read them!) What thickness ply is the outboard rib, the one before the extension begins. Thanks Peter Drake Hereford UK ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:57:20 +0100 From: "John Allum" Subject: KR> New member To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi fellas, This is my first mail though I've been monitoring for 3 weeks. Peter in Hereford's mail encouraged me to contribute. Unlike Peter I don't yet have a project. I spent 2 years converting a VW bug to a beach buggy - had it on the road for 12 months now and happened by chance onto WW's site and from there also found Mark Langford's site and progress inspirational! But do I have the necessary ability to go from 4 wheels to 3 wheels with wings? Coincidently I came across a guy selling a Corvair engine this week ( here in the UK we don't have so many 'vairs available) so I am very tempted, but just lack a little confidence. Any supportive comments would be appreciated. ( or even wisdom saying don't do it- you mad fool!!) By the way I'm in sunny Glasgow Scotland. Peter you mention the inspectors - which Govt agency in the UK do we come under for construction, web address would be helpful if you got one. John Allum johnallum@thistle-washrooms.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:04:55 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: Re: KR> New member To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c56d04$99092fa0$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi John I looked into the corvair engine. The problem in the UK is that the PFA will only give a 1100lbs MAUW for the KR2s and the Corvair is relatively heavy compared with VWs, Jabirus or even Rotax 912s, leaving you very little space for you, fuel and girlfriend /wife etc. I am still undecided as my partner in this project has more money than me and wants to use a Jabiru 120 ££££££. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Allum" To: Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: KR> New member > Hi fellas, > > > > This is my first mail though I've been monitoring for 3 weeks. Peter in > Hereford's mail encouraged me to contribute. Unlike Peter I don't yet have > a > project. I spent 2 years converting a VW bug to a beach buggy - had it on > the road for 12 months now and happened by chance onto WW's site and from > there also found Mark Langford's site and progress inspirational! But do I > have the necessary ability to go from 4 wheels to 3 wheels with wings? > > > > Coincidently I came across a guy selling a Corvair engine this week ( here > in the UK we don't have so many 'vairs available) so I am very tempted, > but > just lack a little confidence. > > > > Any supportive comments would be appreciated. ( or even wisdom saying > don't > do it- you mad fool!!) > > > > By the way I'm in sunny Glasgow Scotland. > > > > Peter you mention the inspectors - which Govt agency in the UK do we come > under for construction, web address would be helpful if you got one. > > > > John Allum > > > > johnallum@thistle-washrooms.com > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 08/06/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 17:10:33 +0200 From: "Kogelmann Christian - OS TDA" Subject: RE: KR> New member To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <7CB9C3C96D41544392C841BF0461FEB50239AAB3@sviemxs03.gate01.skylines.global> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi John and Peter, Looks like there are many KR's popping up in Europe these days. I've just completed my certification of OE-VPD which becomes OE-CRH as soon as I get my paperwork back from the authorities. I've had final inspection on May 9th (after some 70 test flight hours and 2 and 1/2 years later) and the inspector said I can expect the papers in 2 to 3 weeks...well.... Looking forward touring Europe with my KR-2S (plans build and GPAS 2180 powered). Brgds Christian OE-CRH Located in Austria (LOGF) -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Peter Drake Sent: Donnerstag, 09. Juni 2005 17:05 To: johnallum@thistle-washrooms.com; KRnet Subject: Re: KR> New member Hi John I looked into the corvair engine. The problem in the UK is that the PFA will only give a 1100lbs MAUW for the KR2s and the Corvair is relatively heavy compared with VWs, Jabirus or even Rotax 912s, leaving you very little space for you, fuel and girlfriend /wife etc. I am still undecided as my partner in this project has more money than me and wants to use a Jabiru 120 ££££££. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Allum" To: Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: KR> New member > Hi fellas, > > > > This is my first mail though I've been monitoring for 3 weeks. Peter in > Hereford's mail encouraged me to contribute. Unlike Peter I don't yet have > a > project. I spent 2 years converting a VW bug to a beach buggy - had it on > the road for 12 months now and happened by chance onto WW's site and from > there also found Mark Langford's site and progress inspirational! But do I > have the necessary ability to go from 4 wheels to 3 wheels with wings? > > > > Coincidently I came across a guy selling a Corvair engine this week ( here > in the UK we don't have so many 'vairs available) so I am very tempted, > but > just lack a little confidence. > > > > Any supportive comments would be appreciated. ( or even wisdom saying > don't > do it- you mad fool!!) > > > > By the way I'm in sunny Glasgow Scotland. > > > > Peter you mention the inspectors - which Govt agency in the UK do we come > under for construction, web address would be helpful if you got one. > > > > John Allum > > > > johnallum@thistle-washrooms.com > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 08/06/2005 > > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 16:26:22 +0100 From: Phil Spurr Subject: Re: KR> New Member To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.0.0.22.0.20050609162130.01ebe4f0@mail.btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi to both of you, Seems both KR2's and KR2S's are suddenly becoming more popular here in the UK. That's very good news. By the way John, I'm 30 miles south of Glasgow ! Good luck to both of you with your projects. Phil G-BTGD ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:33:43 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: Re: KR> New member To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c56d08$9ebd01c0$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original John The Popular Flying Association who are under the auspices of the CAA oversee the home builds here in the UK. Website www.pfa.org.uk. Interestingly enough I tried www.pfa.org first and that is the Polyurethane Foam Association in the States an appropriate and useful website! Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Allum" To: Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:57 PM Subject: KR> New member > Hi fellas, > > > > This is my first mail though I've been monitoring for 3 weeks. Peter in > Hereford's mail encouraged me to contribute. Unlike Peter I don't yet have > a > project. I spent 2 years converting a VW bug to a beach buggy - had it on > the road for 12 months now and happened by chance onto WW's site and from > there also found Mark Langford's site and progress inspirational! But do I > have the necessary ability to go from 4 wheels to 3 wheels with wings? > > > > Coincidently I came across a guy selling a Corvair engine this week ( here > in the UK we don't have so many 'vairs available) so I am very tempted, > but > just lack a little confidence. > > > > Any supportive comments would be appreciated. ( or even wisdom saying > don't > do it- you mad fool!!) > > > > By the way I'm in sunny Glasgow Scotland. > > > > Peter you mention the inspectors - which Govt agency in the UK do we come > under for construction, web address would be helpful if you got one. > > > > John Allum > > > > johnallum@thistle-washrooms.com > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.6 - Release Date: 08/06/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:34:25 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> New Member To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001001c56d08$b7ddf5b0$42a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Welcome to the sanitorium! If you're short on cash, I would recomend VW for power, build it up yourself with parts and advice from GPAS. The type 4 was an easy conversion for me, a relatively inexperienced mechanic. Before starting anything, give Steve at GPAS a call and see what his experience has to contribute. If you are like me, past middle age with the accompanying paunch (220 lbs), you might want a least 2100cc. If you don't have Steves e-mail at GPAS, let us know. Pat (who swears he's going to lose 30 lbs before the next flight)! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Drake" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: KR> New Member > Hi Guys > Just want to introduce myself to you KRnetters. I live in the UK (near > Hereford). I have just taken on a part built KR2s project started by a > friend of mine, John Bally about 5 years ago. It has been the home for his > chickens since then and needed quite a lot of cleaning up. He had built > the basic "boat" and the wing spars. As with most KRs it has had a few > mods. The centre wing section has been increased by 6" with a > corresponding reduction in the outboard sections to accomodate special air > brakes. This has entailed special WAFs to give us a reasonable AUW. Also > the fuselage has been extended by 6" at the front and the seats moved > forwards to move the Cof G further forwards. The width has been increased > by 2" to accomodate us middle-aged men with expanding waist lines! > We have just had our first inspection by the PFA (our equivalent to the > EAA). I think the inspector was a bit daunted by the age of the project > and that he was not familiar with the type (or a fan of foam & fibreglass > construction!). > I am attracted to the idea of using a Corvair engine, however as we are > somewhat restricted on AUW by the PFA (our rules are much more restrictive > than yours) we may have to go for something lighter like a Jabiru 120 > (blow the expense!) any ideas welcome! > I have been following the construction and first flights of Mark's KR and > have taken much inspiration from it - Well done Mark! > > Peter Drake > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:44:50 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: KR> (no subject) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000801c56d0a$2c466a80$42a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters Looking for a sonerai 2 canopy, used if possible, light defects okay. Punched in used aircraft parts on Google, got a list of 3,200,000 possibilities,...don't wanna go there! Pat at patrusso@sover.net ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:38:49 -0400 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: KR> New member To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050609.123850.2544.11.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > But do I > have the necessary ability to go from 4 wheels to 3 wheels with > wings? >> Coincidently I came across a guy selling a Corvair engine this week > ( here > in the UK we don't have so many 'vairs available) so I am very > tempted, but > just lack a little confidence. > Any supportive comments would be appreciated. ( or even wisdom > saying don't > do it- you mad fool!!) Guys-- All I can say is the same thing I tell my kids ---" If I can do it - Then anyone can do it" 9 years 3 months--- over 3000 hours --- KR2S with 3100cc corvair ready for finial inspection. At the same time Completed private pilot and checked out in 5 different aircraft and flew a couple others. It's all part of a life's experience that I can't imagine living without. I know that I will never regret taking up the challenge. Good luck in your decision, Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:39:37 -0600 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: RE: KR> (no subject) To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed A great supplier for canopies.. http://toddscanopies.com/ enjoy, Jeff >From: "patrusso" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: KR> (no subject) >Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:44:50 -0400 > >Netters >Looking for a sonerai 2 canopy, used if possible, light defects okay. >Punched in used aircraft parts on Google, got a list of 3,200,000 >possibilities,...don't wanna go there! >Pat at patrusso@sover.net >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 16:41:06 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: KR> Engines To: "KR Builders Pilots" Message-ID: <006d01c56d3b$f28270a0$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This message is for all of you builders in England or as most of you say the United Kingdom. Have any of you considered using an engine designed and proven for aircraft. A few builders here have and they are using the Continental O-200. The engine is rated at 100 horse power and will move a KR-2 or KR-2S like a jet. There is one for sale on Barnstormers. here is the URL http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php The price is $6,500.00 but the seller may come down a bit. I have no idea what the price for shipping to wherever you live in the UK. Since there are American manufactured aircraft already in the UK, these engines may be available there. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Texas, USA rstone4@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 08:33:48 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> New member To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <018801c56d43$508cfa60$5600a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Peter, I have the Jabiru 2200 (85hp) in my stock KR2 and could not be happier, well the 3300 (120hp) would have been better :-) Why I went the Jabiru over a VW. First of all I am/was a motor mechanic and it's been more than 20 years since I worked on a motor (and I don't want to start again). Pros: Jabiru is lighter Purpose built Quick to install Easy to install Proven reliability Locally built (I live just up the road some 1400 km) Cheap to maintain Good support Cons: Expensive (not really) 3300 RPM prop speed - a bit fast Can only use timber props (That's all I can think of) The 2200 is about the same HP as a VW but is 25kg lighter, while the 3300 is about the same weight as a VW but 120HP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (big grin). For me the limiting factor was the weight. Also I have no doubt that I can built an engine but I chose not to for the following reasons: Not enough time available (have to balance with family commitments) The extra weight of a VW There are so many variations, which ones are right. An engine I build is not tried and proven, and it's my life (and family's) up there. I would probably consider a Vair in a KR2S if I could find several here in Australia, but I don't have a KR2S..............yet :-) regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Drake Hi John I looked into the corvair engine. The problem in the UK is that the PFA will only give a 1100lbs MAUW for the KR2s and the Corvair is relatively heavy compared with VWs, Jabirus or even Rotax 912s, leaving you very little space for you, fuel and girlfriend /wife etc. I am still undecided as my partner in this project has more money than me and wants to use a Jabiru 120 ££££££. Peter ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:31:17 -0500 From: "Steve Henderson" Subject: Re: KR> (no subject) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001101c56d5c$197194a0$800101df@shendersonlt> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original There is a Sonerai Canopy for sale for $250 on www.barnstormers.com Steve Henderson KR1 St. Louis, MO sph12@sbcglobal.net Stephen Henderson Project Manager Witt Biomedical 305 North Dr., Melbourne, FL 32934 800.669.1328 FAX: 321.253.0372 CELL: 800.273.7983 www.wittbiomedical.com Confidentiality Notice: This email message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ----- Original Message ----- From: "patrusso" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: KR> (no subject) > Netters > Looking for a sonerai 2 canopy, used if possible, light defects okay. > Punched in used aircraft parts on Google, got a list of 3,200,000 > possibilities,...don't wanna go there! > Pat at patrusso@sover.net > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:38:37 -0400 From: Subject: KR> KR2- 2180 GPAC Vw rough under 1100-1500 RPM To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006301c56d5d$32dfefd0$6501a8c0@server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ok, I am ashamed to say that N839BG has been idle for a year. But I have drained the old 100LL put everything back together and got it running again. I have noticed however that below 1500 maybe actually when you get down to 1100 RPM it sounds a little rough. Just kind of a stumble in the normally smooth sound of the engine. I have a Zenith carb with no cockpit mixture control by the way. Plugs where brand new a year ago when I got busy and let it sit. Got a feeling its a little out of time however, I can get a very clean 3400RPM static. Thoughts? Jeff York KR-2 N839BG Lexington, KY http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:08:47 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Canopy Latches To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-2200565102847394@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > [Original Message] > From: larry flesner > To: KRnet > Date: 6/3/2005 9:07:11 AM > Subject: KR> Canopy Latches > > > > >I wonder how many flying KR2s have emergency opening from either the > >inside, or the outside? > >Serge Vidal > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > I will not be able to remove the canopy from inside but I will have an emergency break-out tool in my KR. My brother was showing me his knife collection last week and came to one knife and said this is what many firefighters and rescue personnel use. When I checked it out I decided this would make a good break out tool so he gave it to me. Check it out on ebay item no. 7161343120 It seems to have a strong enough blade to punch through a canopy or even the plywood. the blade also has serrations for cutting seatbelts and is easy one hand operation. The handle also has a hole which could be used to attached to the airplane in an area where you can reach it and will not go flying away in a crash. Jack cooper > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:09:18 GMT From: "abby_lane@netzero.net" Subject: Re: KR> Wanted KR2 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050609.201008.21088.37165@webmail12.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain Thank you Dave of Navato CA, I am located in Jacksonville FL and looking for completed Tri-gear model. ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:27:28 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> red letter date To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003f01c56d6c$5af79e00$0302a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" KRnetHeads, Last night I put some Tempurfoam on my carbon fiber seat. One inch of the blue "medium" density on the bottom, and one inch of "soft" pink stuff on the seat back. I needed to try it out, AND beat the tropical storm that is threatening to screw up our weekend. Although it was supposed to be stormy for 40% of the day, it looked decent enough at lunch time for me to sneak in 3 hours of pretty decent flying, mostly just a big series of circles, back and forth, whatever, and then 5 touch and goes. I even got it up to 7000 feet and 180 mph. I've determined though that top speed is only about 165 mph straight and level at 3000 ft, until I clean it up aerodynamically and get the right prop. On the way back to work the bottom fell out and we got our thunderstorm. But at quittin' time it looked pretty good so I went back and flew another three hours! I had tweaked my static ports some more so I did some stalls at 6000 ft. This time I really stalled it (50 mph indicated with flaps, 55 without) the left wing dropped, and I got to look straight down at the ground! I also have the aileron trim just right, so I can now steer by leaning left or right in calm air. Afterwards I flew down to Moontown (M38, the grass strip where I got my taildragger endorsement) and did my first landing (in N56ML) at a different airport than MDQ! Spent a half hour showing the plane to Gordy (Lionheart pilot) and Emily (the local instructor), and then flew back to MDQ (in about 5 minutes!). Did five more touch and goes at dusk and really squeaked a couple of them on in the calm air. It still drew what passes for a crowd on landing, and the comment of "lookin' good" from the Medflight chopper pilot. I never even thought about the foam on the seat, or any pain in my butt, so I guess the Tempurfoam works. I topped it off before I left the airport, so now I'm ready for a "cross country" to Guntersville Lake next time I get a chance, with another landing at a "strange" place. I called my father on the way home and gave him the dimensions for the tiedown locations that he's going to be installing next to my brother's C-172 parking spot at the grass strip on his farm. OK, I'm ready to say it now.....YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! Mark Langford, 23.5 KR hours down, 16.5 to go! Huntsville, Alabama see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:55:25 -0700 From: "Louis Staalberg" Subject: Re: KR> WAFs/Outboard ribs. To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000401c56d70$3bde5b40$6401a8c0@CenterDesk> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original To Peter Drake You asked:"....What thickness ply is the outboard rib, the one before the extension begins?...... I presume you mean the rib that straddles the wing attach fitting on the center spars.The answer is 3/32 of an inch. (Hope you still remember "inches"!) As far as the painting of the WAF's there is tons of information in the archives.In my case I am thinking about zinc chromate but there are as many answers to your question as there are KR-2's. Regards, Louis Staalberg Payson, Arizona N9FL@cbiwireless.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 228 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================