From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 267 Date: 7/11/2005 9:00:24 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. KR-1 Specifications (daren@cogdon.freeserve.co.uk) 2. Re: Re: KR> KR-1 Specifications (Dan Heath) 3. Re: KR-1 Specifications (Orma) 4. kr2 wheels (phil brookman) 5. Re: The Stall (James Ferris) 6. Re: Re: KR> KR-1 Specifications (Mark Langford) 7. Re: KR-1 Specifications (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 8. Matco Brakes (wcrawfor@cmhc-schl.gc.ca) 9. Re: The Stall (Dennis Mingear) 10. kr2 wheels (larry flesner) 11. Re: KR-1 Specifications (Robert L. Stone) 12. Hartford to Oshkosh 7-24-05. (Mark Jones) 13. re:The Stall (Dennis Mingear) 14. Re: re:The Stall (Jeff Scott) 15. Re: re:The Stall (Dennis Mingear) 16. Accident in Canada (Bob Glidden) 17. test (DENE COLLETT (SA)) 18. V-tail KR2 (Sean Caranna) 19. Re: Matco Brakes (Orma) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:33:36 +0200 (CEST) From: daren@cogdon.freeserve.co.uk Subject: KR> KR-1 Specifications To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <31053240.1121074416810.JavaMail.www@wwinf3103> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all Can someone point me towards a spec for the KR-1? I have seen it in several websites with varying dimensions, weights, engines etc. Thanks in advance! -- Whatever you Wanadoo: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:29:31 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: Re: KR> KR-1 Specifications To: , Message-ID: <42D24A0B.000005.06092@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Very interesting. None of the specs match. I guess you will have to wait for someone who has one to answer. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- From: daren@cogdon.freeserve.co.uk Date: 07/11/05 06:21:34 To: Dan Heath Subject: Re: Re: KR> KR-1 Specifications Thanks for that, Dan, but here's the problem I mean: http://www.greatplainsas.com/kr1.html - the dimensions and weights are very different!! > Message date : Jul 11 2005, 11:17 AM > From : "Dan Heath" > To : daren@cogdon.freeserve.co.uk > Copy to : > Subject : Re: KR> KR-1 Specifications > Try http://www.fly-kr.com/ See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- Can someone point me towards a spec for the KR-1? Whatever you Wanadoo This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more here ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:00:52 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Specifications To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <00c301c58607$cf012920$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Specifications for the KR1 can be found at the Rand Robinson web site http://www.fly-kr.com/ Ken Rand designed and built the original KR1 and KR2. They have the official specifications for the planes as well as sell plans and parts. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:32:13 +0100 From: "phil brookman" Subject: KR> kr2 wheels To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008901c5860c$2ecec700$73a51352@philljl2re6t9i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" g you people know swapping to 500-5 tyers is much better than = the old retrac tyers ,less drag,for take off nicer on the pilot and the = airframe=20 i would say 500-5 seems to be the minimum i would consider on t tire = size, big improvements on t/off roll especialy=20 p ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01C58614.9090E510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I would trust the specs at Great Plains for best accuracy. Steve actually flies one (well, it's a KR1.5), and he's built at least one other ((I forget if it was a 1 or a 2 though). The RR specs are famous for being optimistic. There's no such thing as one particular airplane that can do all the stuff RR claims for any of their KRs, but if you had ten to pick and choose specs from, you might could come up with their spec list, but empty weight is doubtful even then... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:39:31 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Specifications To: daren@cogdon.freeserve.co.uk,krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050711.084147.3928.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Get the info pack from RR, Virg On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:33:36 +0200 (CEST) daren@cogdon.freeserve.co.uk writes: > Hi all > Can someone point me towards a spec for the KR-1? I have seen it in > several websites with varying dimensions, weights, engines etc. > Thanks in advance! > > -- > > Whatever you Wanadoo: > http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ > > This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more > at: http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:09:02 -0400 From: wcrawfor@cmhc-schl.gc.ca Subject: KR> Matco Brakes To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thanks Orma, it probably is either an M66-103 or a M66-106 depending upon caliper size, I'll have to check if I have a 1.25" or 1.5" piston. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 06:37:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> The Stall To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050711133709.77918.qmail@web51410.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I don't know, you tell me. Denny ... --- James Ferris wrote: > O, so we could even have an inverted soin. > Jim > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. That does not make the monkey patriotic." Scott Ritter ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 09:01:52 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> kr2 wheels To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050711090152.00849b20@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >g you people know swapping to 500-5 tyers is much better than = the old >retrac tyers ,less drag,for take off nicer on the pilot and the = >airframe=20 i would say 500-5 seems to be the minimum i would consider >on t tire = size, big improvements on t/off roll especialy=20 >p ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm not sure exactly what you were trying to say here but I'll add my opinion on KR wheels. For the heavier KR's I'd suggest that 500X5's would be the wheel of choice and also for any KR's that expect to fly off grass. Lighter KR's or even the heavier ones that will never see grass could go with a bit smaller wheel such as the standard kit size. I seem to recall they are 400X5 and 11 inches in diameter or something close to that. I started with 600X6's because that what I had and used a low profile tire but that was way more than I needed. I switched to 500X5's so I could use the RV pants and it has worked out great. I have 30" Diehl gear legs instead of the standard 24" leg and everything seems to be scaled just right for me. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:51:48 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Specifications To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <007101c58630$73190960$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The reason there are so many variations of the original KR1 and KR2 is because of the nature of the design, its the most modified home built aircraft on the market. As you have been advised by Orma, buy a set of plans from RR and build it what ever way you want to. "Specifications for the KR1 can be found at the Rand Robinson web site http://www.fly-kr.com/ Ken Rand designed and built the original KR1 and KR2. They have the official specifications for the planes as well as sell plans and parts." Orma ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 4:33 AM Subject: KR> KR-1 Specifications > Hi all > Can someone point me towards a spec for the KR-1? I have seen it in > several websites with varying dimensions, weights, engines etc. > Thanks in advance! > > -- > > Whatever you Wanadoo: > http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/time/ > > This email has been checked for most known viruses - find out more at: > http://www.wanadoo.co.uk/help/id/7098.htm > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:25:34 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Hartford to Oshkosh 7-24-05. To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C42F8@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU WILL BE AT HARTFORD AIRPORT ON 7-24-05....... If anyone wants to join in on a group fly to Oshkosh, the staging will be as follows. Arrive at Hartford, WI (KHXF) http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHXF on the morning of Sunday, July 24th. I will be there as well as Mark Langford. Mark Langford is not flying his KR for obvious reasons and I am unsure if mine will be ready for Oshkosh by then or not. Regardless, we will be at the Hartford airport to greet any arriving KR's. Hartford airport is exactly 38.8 miles south of Oshkosh. There will be a lot of traffic as this is a "hot spot / final stop" prior to arriving Oshkosh. Also, if anyone is driving to Oshkosh and wishes to stop by the Hartford airport, please do so. I am taking take the grill with us and have Brats and Burgers and Soda (sorry pilots, no beer for you) for Lunch. Then after lunch the KR's can proceed on to Oshkosh. If you are going to attend, please let me know ASAP. The list of KR's flying in to Hartford so far are: Orma Robbins Joe Weber Bill Clapp Mark Jones (already at Hartford airport) Ken Jones This could be the start of an annual event, don't miss out. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: KR> re:The Stall To: Kr Net Message-ID: <20050711175124.935.qmail@web51406.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I guess that if I was faster on my feet I should have responded to the "What is an inverted "soin" with something like this. An inverted "spin" is spelled like this "sbin". Denny ... "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. That does not make the monkey patriotic." Scott Ritter __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:35:01 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> re:The Stall To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050711.133533.8890.42997@webmail18.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain -- Dennis Mingear wrote: > Has anyone here spun their KR? Yes. Didn't have sufficient altitude to allow it to fully develop, so only made ~1/2 turn. Recovery was normal and unexciting. Stop the rotation with the rudder, recover from the stall with the elevator. (your mileage may vary, and quite likely will depending on your CG). It was captured for an art video by Simone Aaberg Kaern in 2000. I've seen the video once, but never got a copy. Spun out of formation practicing slowflight while formed up on a Cub. Video was taken from the Cub. Jeff Scott ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:06:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> re:The Stall To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050711220650.30403.qmail@web51401.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Jeff ... Denny --- Jeff Scott wrote: > > -- Dennis Mingear wrote: > > Has anyone here spun their KR? > > Yes. Didn't have sufficient altitude to allow it to > fully develop, so only made ~1/2 turn. Recovery > was normal and unexciting. Stop the rotation with > the rudder, recover from the stall with the > elevator. (your mileage may vary, and quite likely > will depending on your CG). > > It was captured for an art video by Simone Aaberg > Kaern in 2000. I've seen the video once, but never > got a copy. Spun out of formation practicing > slowflight while formed up on a Cub. Video was > taken from the Cub. > > Jeff Scott > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > "I can train a monkey to wave an American flag. That does not make the monkey patriotic." Scott Ritter ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions – no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:12:35 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: KR> Accident in Canada To: "KRnet" , "corvaircraft" Message-ID: <012001c5866e$06185670$6401a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Go to this web sight they have the story www.canada.com It is a shame they were two very good guy's that were very passionate about their work.It is a lost for the hole general aviation family.Keep all their families in your prayers.. Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 02:18:30 +0200 From: "DENE COLLETT (SA)" Subject: KR> test To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c58677$86f28c80$b2a6fea9@dene> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Regards Dene Collett KR2S builder South Africa mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:33:11 -0400 From: "Sean Caranna" Subject: KR> V-tail KR2 To: Message-ID: <002901c58679$4a1a2780$6400a8c0@Warrior1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In 1999 Christopher Stewart said he was thinking about doing a V-tail KR. Did this ever happen? Sean Caranna My Build Log @ http://www.wingsforum.com/aircraft/ ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:38:21 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Matco Brakes To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00e601c58682$63f70250$0202a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Net Today I went to the airport to play with a set of Cleveland wheels and to see how the brakes compare to my Matco (Rosenhan) brakes. If you would like to see, please go to http://kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/MatcoVsCleveland.htm At lunch today I was discussing with a Falco builder, my possible conversion to Cleveland brakes from the Matco and he stated that he had a brand new unused set of Matco brakes in his hanger that he would sell. He has the 500x5 wheel with brakes, the same as we are talking here. He does not have axles or tires. He was talking about 50% of list. If anyone is interested, contact me off net. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 267 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================