From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 307 Date: 8/15/2005 10:24:56 AM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. I finally updated my web page (Al Hawkins) 2. Re: I finally updated my web page (cartera) 3. RE: I finally updated my web page (Al Hawkins) 4. Re: I finally updated my web page (Dan Heath) 5. Re: I finally updated my web page (Mark Jones) 6. RE: Foam (Ulinski, Val) 7. RE: Foam (larry flesner) 8. Re: RE: KR> Foam (danrh@alltel.net) 9. RE: Foam (Ulinski, Val) 10. RE: RE: KR> Foam (Ulinski, Val) 11. Epoxy (Peter Drake) 12. Re: Epoxy (larry flesner) 13. RE: I finally updated my web page (Al Hawkins) 14. Re: Epoxy (Peter Drake) 15. Holding foam in place (danrh@alltel.net) 16. Re: Epoxy (larry flesner) 17. Re: Epoxy (patrusso) 18. Re: Epoxy - Hot Glue (danrh@alltel.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 21:02:36 -0700 From: "Al Hawkins" Subject: KR> I finally updated my web page To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001001c5a14e$2bc32ee0$6702a8c0@mycomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey guys I have updated my webpage with new photos and a couple of video clips, see URL in signature. Al Hawkins KR2 C-GDPU Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada http://www3.telus.net/public/a4a19967/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:41:34 -0600 From: cartera Subject: Re: KR> I finally updated my web page To: KRnet Message-ID: <43001CFE.60106@spots.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi Al, Real nice home page, looks like a lot of room in that hanger ;). Only two things that I wonder about is the location of your pitot/static think that is why your only reading 110mph should be much higher and of course the prop, should be a larger pitch. You know Robert has a copy of my plug, why don't you guys get together and build another. If pitot/static should stick out at least 18" anything shorter and it won't read true. Originally I put my p/s where you have yours but, mine was a lot shorter about 10" and when I went on my maiden it just went up to 40mph and that's were is stayed. When I came in to land I must have been doing 100mph, our runway is 12,600' long and I still had not touched down as I passed the tower which is about halfway. When I taxied back to the hanger I had it cut out in about 5 mins and relocated where it is now. Just hope your Posa keeps working ;)............. Happy Flying, Guy! Adrian Al Hawkins wrote: >Hey guys > >I have updated my webpage with new photos and a couple of video clips, >see URL in signature. > >Al Hawkins >KR2 C-GDPU >Port Coquitlam, B.C. >Canada > >http://www3.telus.net/public/a4a19967/index.html > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:00:49 -0700 From: "Al Hawkins" Subject: RE: KR> I finally updated my web page To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000001c5a156$4e491940$6702a8c0@mycomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Adrian It is reading about 95 Knots when the GPS is reading 110 Knots. I think it has more to do with the static port location more than the pitot tube. Al -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+awh.hawkins=telus.net@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+awh.hawkins=telus.net@mylist.net] On Behalf Of cartera Sent: August 14, 2005 9:42 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> I finally updated my web page Hi Al, Real nice home page, looks like a lot of room in that hanger ;). Only two things that I wonder about is the location of your pitot/static think that is why your only reading 110mph should be much higher and of course the prop, should be a larger pitch. You know Robert has a copy of my plug, why don't you guys get together and build another. If pitot/static should stick out at least 18" anything shorter and it won't read true. Originally I put my p/s where you have yours but, mine was a lot shorter about 10" and when I went on my maiden it just went up to 40mph and that's were is stayed. When I came in to land I must have been doing 100mph, our runway is 12,600' long and I still had not touched down as I passed the tower which is about halfway. When I taxied back to the hanger I had it cut out in about 5 mins and relocated where it is now. Just hope your Posa keeps working ;)............. Happy Flying, Guy! Adrian Al Hawkins wrote: >Hey guys > >I have updated my webpage with new photos and a couple of video clips, >see URL in signature. > >Al Hawkins >KR2 C-GDPU >Port Coquitlam, B.C. >Canada > >http://www3.telus.net/public/a4a19967/index.html > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 05:17:07 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> I finally updated my web page To: Message-ID: <43005D93.00000D.03380@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Very cool. That was a great news story. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- Al Hawkins KR2 C-GDPU Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada http://www3.telus.net/public/a4a19967/index.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 06:02:53 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> I finally updated my web page To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c5a188$e2d71da0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Incredible!!!!!!! What a tribute to your Dad........sure wish you would fly that bird down to the gathering. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Hawkins" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:02 PM Subject: KR> I finally updated my web page > Hey guys > > I have updated my webpage with new photos and a couple of video clips, > see URL in signature. > > Al Hawkins > KR2 C-GDPU > Port Coquitlam, B.C. > Canada > > http://www3.telus.net/public/a4a19967/index.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:07:12 -0400 From: "Ulinski, Val" Subject: RE: KR> Foam To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <8F764B1D9C290D4686E0681ED0B1A4425BE566@chnaemail.chna.mc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Larry. I am familiar rigid foams. My question is how much rigidity of the foam is actually required, once the carbon fiber or glass is cured. The minicell foam is semi rigid, flexible, can't be broken and springs back when compressed. It has 2/3's of the compression strength of the same 2# polystyrene (pink stuff they by at Home Depot) -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of larry flesner Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:52 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Foam > >I am looking at 2# Minicell foam. They tell me it is used for cushions >but I see it as a good foam for construction as well Anyone have >experience with it? VUlinski ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It sounds to me like you are looking at a "flexable" foam if it is used for cushions. The foam used in constructing a KR is a "rigid" foam ,and when 1 or 2 inches thick, will flex very little without breaking. The foam used in the KR will not compress without damage. Could you give additional info on what exactly you are looking at? Larry Flesner _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _____________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer This email transmission is confidential and intended solely for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or disseminate the information, or take any action in reliance of it. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of any organisation or employer. 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For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:11:45 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: RE: KR> Foam To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050815081145.008585f0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Thanks Larry. I am familiar rigid foams. My question is how much >rigidity of the foam is actually required, once the carbon fiber or glass is cured. The minicell foam is semi rigid, flexible, can't be broken and springs back when compressed. It has 2/3's of the compression strength of the same 2# polystyrene (pink stuff they by at Home Depot) >VUlinski +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm afraid you're on your own here as far as I'm concerned. In my sixteen year exposure to KR's, I've never heard of a "semi-rigid" foam being used. I'm certianly no expert so don't let my answer halt your research. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 8:23:03 -0500 From: Subject: Re: RE: KR> Foam To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050815132303.YMIF6019.ispmxmta09-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Have you compared the weight of the two foams? I think the rigidity of the foam is important. You could not put on one layer of glass on the wings, then remove the foam and expect the properties to be the same. This is a "Sandwich" construction, which, to me, means that the stuff in the middle is integral to the properties of the end product. Your result WILL vary. Dan. From: "Ulinski, Val" Date: 2005/08/15 Mon AM 07:07:12 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR> Foam Thanks Larry. I am familiar rigid foams. My question is how much rigidity of the foam is actually required, once the carbon fiber or glass is cured. The minicell foam is semi rigid, flexible, can't be broken and springs back when compressed. It has 2/3's of the compression strength of the same 2# polystyrene (pink stuff they by at Home Depot) -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of larry flesner Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:52 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Foam > >I am looking at 2# Minicell foam. They tell me it is used for cushions >but I see it as a good foam for construction as well Anyone have >experience with it? VUlinski ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It sounds to me like you are looking at a "flexable" foam if it is used for cushions. The foam used in constructing a KR is a "rigid" foam ,and when 1 or 2 inches thick, will flex very little without breaking. The foam used in the KR will not compress without damage. Could you give additional info on what exactly you are looking at? Larry Flesner _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _____________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer This email transmission is confidential and intended solely for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or disseminate the information, or take any action in reliance of it. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of any organisation or employer. If you have received this message in error, do not open any attachment but please notify the sender (above) deleting this message from your system. 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For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:41:48 -0400 From: "Ulinski, Val" Subject: RE: KR> Foam To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <8F764B1D9C290D4686E0681ED0B1A4425BE568@chnaemail.chna.mc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Larry. I have been playing with the KR2 for 25 years and recently decided to um... finish. I am going to do some "mock up sections" and test the strength against the "normal" foam. What kind of foam are you using? -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of larry flesner Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:12 AM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> Foam >Thanks Larry. I am familiar rigid foams. My question is how much >rigidity of the foam is actually required, once the carbon fiber or glass is cured. The minicell foam is semi rigid, flexible, can't be broken and springs back when compressed. It has 2/3's of the compression strength of the same 2# polystyrene (pink stuff they by at Home Depot) >VUlinski +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm afraid you're on your own here as far as I'm concerned. In my sixteen year exposure to KR's, I've never heard of a "semi-rigid" foam being used. I'm certianly no expert so don't let my answer halt your research. Larry Flesner _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _____________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer This email transmission is confidential and intended solely for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or disseminate the information, or take any action in reliance of it. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of any organisation or employer. If you have received this message in error, do not open any attachment but please notify the sender (above) deleting this message from your system. 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For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:43:52 -0400 From: "Ulinski, Val" Subject: RE: RE: KR> Foam To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <8F764B1D9C290D4686E0681ED0B1A4425BE569@chnaemail.chna.mc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Both foams are 2# density, very similar in weight. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:23 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: RE: KR> Foam Have you compared the weight of the two foams? I think the rigidity of the foam is important. You could not put on one layer of glass on the wings, then remove the foam and expect the properties to be the same. This is a "Sandwich" construction, which, to me, means that the stuff in the middle is integral to the properties of the end product. Your result WILL vary. Dan. From: "Ulinski, Val" Date: 2005/08/15 Mon AM 07:07:12 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR> Foam Thanks Larry. I am familiar rigid foams. My question is how much rigidity of the foam is actually required, once the carbon fiber or glass is cured. The minicell foam is semi rigid, flexible, can't be broken and springs back when compressed. It has 2/3's of the compression strength of the same 2# polystyrene (pink stuff they by at Home Depot) -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of larry flesner Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:52 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Foam > >I am looking at 2# Minicell foam. They tell me it is used for cushions >but I see it as a good foam for construction as well Anyone have >experience with it? VUlinski ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ It sounds to me like you are looking at a "flexable" foam if it is used for cushions. The foam used in constructing a KR is a "rigid" foam ,and when 1 or 2 inches thick, will flex very little without breaking. The foam used in the KR will not compress without damage. Could you give additional info on what exactly you are looking at? Larry Flesner _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _____________________________________________________________________ Disclaimer This email transmission is confidential and intended solely for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or disseminate the information, or take any action in reliance of it. 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For further information visit http://www.messagelabs.com/stats.asp ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:56:30 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: KR> Epoxy To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001601c5a1a1$23be0730$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Can anyone tell me what is the best type of epoxy to stick Polystyrene foam to wood? I have tried builders gapfilling foam from an aerosol. It sticks wonderfully but because of its expanding properties it tends to distort structures. Peter ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:18:44 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050815091844.00827100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:56 PM 8/15/05 +0100, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me what is the best type of epoxy to stick Polystyrene foam to wood? >Peter ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Have you tried "hot glue" ????? The foam really only needs to be held in place to complete the shaping and wet layup process at which point it is bonded to the glass. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:28:00 -0700 From: "Al Hawkins" Subject: RE: KR> I finally updated my web page To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <000801c5a1a5$8a4dd6c0$6702a8c0@mycomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Mark Not this year, I only have 40 hours on it so far, and it is a long way from the West Coast of Canada. Al Hawkins -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: August 15, 2005 4:03 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> I finally updated my web page Incredible!!!!!!! What a tribute to your Dad........sure wish you would fly that bird down to the gathering. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Hawkins" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:02 PM Subject: KR> I finally updated my web page > Hey guys > > I have updated my webpage with new photos and a couple of video clips, > see URL in signature. > > Al Hawkins > KR2 C-GDPU > Port Coquitlam, B.C. > Canada > > http://www3.telus.net/public/a4a19967/index.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:43:05 +0100 From: "Peter Drake" Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c5a1a7$a58ae200$0201a8c0@PETER> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Larry Do you mean the stuff out of a gun? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy > At 02:56 PM 8/15/05 +0100, you wrote: >>Can anyone tell me what is the best type of epoxy to stick Polystyrene > foam to wood? >>Peter > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Have you tried "hot glue" ????? The foam really only needs to be > held in place to complete the shaping and wet layup process at > which point it is bonded to the glass. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:14:22 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Holding foam in place To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050815151422.SHTN5596.ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I use Hot Glue from a Hot Glue Gun, to stick foam to anything, including foam, to hold it in place. In fact, once you discover Hot Glue, you will use for all sort of clamping and holding tasks. Dan. From: "Peter Drake" Date: 2005/08/15 Mon AM 08:56:30 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: KR> Epoxy Can anyone tell me what is the best type of epoxy to stick Polystyrene foam to wood? I have tried builders gapfilling foam from an aerosol. It sticks wonderfully but because of its expanding properties it tends to distort structures. Peter _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:03:12 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050815110312.00850530@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:43 PM 8/15/05 +0100, you wrote: >Larry >Do you mean the stuff out of a gun? >Peter +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That is correct. Same as Dan H. mentioned in his post. Just make sure to keep it below any sanding levels. Sandpaper and hot glue don't mix well. Any glue that has gotten above or into any area to be sanded can be cut out with a single edge razor blade and that void filled with micro-slurry. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:38:50 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Epoxy To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001801c5a1b7$d1378150$c5a572d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original What ever epoxy you are using to glass your parts will work. I use west system epoxy. Mix up a bit in a cup, brush on a clear coat on the wood, then mix the remaining epoxy left in the cup with micro spheres, brush that onto the foam and join the parts. I have had little luck with hot melt glue. It doesn't sand well, it sets up to fast, it doesnt protect the wood at the glue joint and it will not penetrate the foam. The epoxy clear coat wets the wood well and acts as a varnish against moisture. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Drake" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: KR> Epoxy > Can anyone tell me what is the best type of epoxy to stick Polystyrene > foam to wood? > I have tried builders gapfilling foam from an aerosol. It sticks > wonderfully but because of its expanding properties it tends to distort > structures. > > Peter > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:24:28 -0500 From: Subject: KR> Re: Epoxy - Hot Glue To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050815172428.XAHP5596.ispmxmta06-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Most of the points that this poster made are valid and I usually do not re-post on another persons points, but I think that is important for you to discover the benefits of Hot Glue. Jerry introduced me to Hot Glue and it has become my friend. ( now I don't need Jerry anymore LOL ) Hot glue does not sand, at all. But, as Larry said, it can easily be removed with a razor knife, where it is most difficult to get around any kind of resin adhesive. It does set up fast and that is it's benefit to you. Put it on and in a few seconds you can go about your work. If you get it hot enough before applying it, and it will penetrate the foam, if that is what you want. The purpose is not to seal, protect, or make any kind of permanent bond. It is more like a flexible clamp that can be applied anywhere and either burried in the work or easily removed. There is an example of using this at: http://kr-builder.org/Aileron/index.html Dan (original message) I have had little luck with hot melt glue. It doesn't sand well, it sets up to fast, it doesnt protect the wood at the glue joint and it will not penetrate the foam. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 307 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================