From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 310 Date: 8/16/2005 9:00:13 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: LSA alternative (David Mikesell) 2. Re: Glue Gun (Phillip Matheson) 3. Canopy for sale (Jack Cooper) 4. RE: CorvAircraft> Canopy for sale (Jack Cooper) 5. RE: LSA alternative (Richard and Donya Rankin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:45:03 -0700 From: "David Mikesell" Subject: Re: KR> LSA alternative To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c5a2c4$e87b1f80$6601a8c0@DavidMikesell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My question is why even try to register your plane LSA? The reg says as long as it meets LSA standard you can fly it with a sport pilot license. Even if the plane is kit or plans built you should not register it LSA or E-LSA because you will have to spend even more money to attend the LSA mechanics classes to work on it. If you build it register it experimental and then you can do all the maintanence on it yourself without classes and you can still fly it if it meets LSA standards with a sport pilots license. David Mikesell 23597 N. Hwy 99 Acampo, CA 95220 Cell Phone 209-609-8774 Home Phone 209-339-4833 skyguynca@skyguynca.com www.skyguynca.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: KR> LSA alternative > To elaborate on Mark's comment, if working with wood and fiberglass is your thing, consider the Vision, which by all my observations is the next generation KR2S, and install a Corvair engine, and get a sweet flying airplane, plans built like the KR, glass like the KR but with a long wing version that also should fit nicely into LSA category. Subaru and GM 4.3V6 engines have been used in it as well so it is very adaptable to the task. > > No one has ever said the KR cannot fit the LSA, just that there are SO many examples that do not fit, you will have a hard row to hoe to prove to a DAR that it is LSA qualified. The FAA commentary that I read specifically mentioned that they are watching for aircraft that have previously been certified in other categories to be modified into LSA, and will aggressively prevent this. The purpose of the category is not to give alternatives, but to regulate those aircraft that already fit the category and previously were not regulated. > > Having said that, changes made logically to ANY airframe which significantly change the flight characteristics in such a way as to comply with the LSA restrictions should be able to be proved to comply much the same way as someone who proves their modifications to an original design are safe. To the FAA, documentation is and always will be the most important thing: if you show can show where others did the same thing and got a particular result, then it will be a much easier sell. > > BUT, bare in mind that any such changes DRASTICALLY effects the build > time because now you are designing, building, troubleshooting, remaking, designing, troubleshooting, etc.... as you go. Good luck. > > Colin Rainey > N96TA > KSFB > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:16:07 +1000 From: "Phillip Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Glue Gun To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00ef01c5a2c9$3fb0ba40$e497fea9@ralf> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I tried hot glue last night. AAAAAAARGH! I'm using Blue Styrofoam - it melts it! ----------- Do not let the Gun get to hot, on white foam I found it OK if you put the glue on as it starts to melt, and NOT it let the gun sit for along time turned on. Hope that makes sence??? Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au Australia 61 3 58833588 Kr Construction Web page http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and home built Parts and Kits at: http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:10:10 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: KR> Canopy for sale To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" , "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <410-2200583172101046@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have a Todds canopy for a KR-2S that I cracked installing it. I have posted some pictures on my website for anyone interested in it. I also included some pictures of my KR with the new Todds canopy installed so you can get an idea of how the canopy is cut. If you are planning on a hatch opening you may be able to use this canopy and/or the extra pieces of plexiglass that comes with it. I would really like to see it used and like to get it out of my garage. If you think you can use it make me an offer. There are 5 pieces all together, most of which have been sprayed with spralat. Email me off net. Jack Cooper kr2cooper@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:13:02 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: KR> RE: CorvAircraft> Canopy for sale To: "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" , "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <410-2200583172132531@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > [Original Message] > From: Jack Cooper > To: Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft ; > KR builders and pilots > Date: 8/16/2005 10:10:08 PM > Subject: CorvAircraft> Canopy for sale >sorry, I forgot to include the link in the first message http://jackandsandycooper.com/crackedcanopy.html > I have a Todds canopy for a KR-2S that I cracked installing it. I have posted some pictures on my website for anyone interested in it. I also included some pictures of my KR with the new Todds canopy installed so you can get an idea of how the canopy is cut. If you are planning on a hatch opening you may be able to use this canopy and/or the extra pieces of plexiglass that comes with it. I would really like to see it used and like to get it out of my garage. If you think you can use it make me an offer. There are 5 pieces all together, most of which have been sprayed with spralat. Email me off net. > > Jack Cooper > kr2cooper@earthlink.net > _________________________________________________________ > search the CorvAircraft archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/corvairsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from CorvAircraft, send a message to CorvAircraft-leave@mylist.net > Other CorvAircraft list info is at http://www.krnet.org/corvaircraft_inst.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:35:12 -0500 From: "Richard and Donya Rankin" Subject: RE: KR> LSA alternative To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <20050817023506.UUVR3579.eastrmmtao05.cox.net@VANGUARD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >David Mikesell: > My question is why even try to register your plane LSA? Exactly. Not planning to pursue E-LSA registration (what a headache). I plan to register it experimental amateur-built, and if possible operate as a private pilot exercising sport pilot privileges in an airplane registered under a standard airworthiness certificate that otherwise meets the definition of light sport aircraft. It's all speculation at this point unless I can find someone who's further down the path than I. >Mark Langford: > Before I started trying to neuter a KR2 to fit into LSA... LOL. Apt description! I appreciate your suggestion regarding the Zenith. Likewise, Colin, I'll certainly look at the Vision. My original question remains... is anybody actively working on, or "finished" with, a ("neutered"?) LSA-limited KR2S? ------------------------------------ Richard Rankin richardanddonya (at) cox (dot) net N328FT (reserved - as of today!) 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