From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 316 Date: 8/20/2005 9:00:16 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: pitot/static location (Eduardo Iglesias) 2. RE: Barnstormer KR (LTC Robert Schmitt) 3. Re: tappets adjustments (Joe Beyer) 4. RE: RE: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison (Steve Glover) 5. Re: pitot/static location (Dan Heath) 6. Re: tappets adjustments (Mark Langford) 7. Re: pitot/static location (larry flesner) 8. KR info (Orma) 9. Re: pitot/static location (Mark Jones) 10. RE: RE: Barnstormer KR (Dave Jeltema) 11. pitot/static location (larry flesner) 12. KR family in service to the country (larry flesner) 13. Re: Avgas/Mogas & Ellison (Al Friesen) 14. Re: RE: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 00:16:42 -0300 From: "Eduardo Iglesias" Subject: Re: KR> pitot/static location To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005401c5a535$baa6caf0$f96e55c8@iglesias> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Itīs good for me. If you find any more, tell me. Thank you Eduardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: Re: KR> pitot/static location > At 09:14 AM 8/18/05 -0300, you wrote: >>Hi Larry >> >>Have you ay pics of that? >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > The picture is not a real closeup but you can see it at: > > http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929270.jpg > > I might be able to find a better one given some time. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:03:17 +0400 From: "LTC Robert Schmitt" Subject: KR> RE: Barnstormer KR To: Message-ID: <4ameaq$ssoe3@mxoutdr1.us.army.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd love to hear the rest of the story as well. Calvin Campbell's airplane was at the first gathering I attended I thought it was truly inspirational. If I recall correctly it was originally built by Lance Neubaur of "Lanceair" fame. Please have a few beers for me at the gathering, I'm still in Baghdad enjoying the sunny Middle-East - no real beer allowed. My almost finished KR2S awaits my return. Just sand/fill and paint left to do. I'm hoping to fly in for the 06 gathering. LTC Rob Schmitt Baghdad, Iraq Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:10:53 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: KR> Barnstormer KR To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050819.061058.8422.56474@webmail06.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain I looked at the Barnstormer's link Robert listed below and noted that Calvin Campbell's KR was there listed as a wrecked rebuilder. (with some very low prices for some of the parts!) Anyone know the story behind that? -Jeff Scott -- "Robert L. Stone" wrote: Hi Ryan, Check "BARNSTORMERS" at http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php go to the Experemental section under KR aircraft and you may find one there for sale. There are always some KR aircraft being offered. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 21:43:47 -0700 From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: Re: KR> tappets adjustments To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark Langford wrote: >There are good stainless valves and bad stainless valves. You must >have bought some bad ones, I got them from HAPI years ago. They didn't last long at all. The engine lost compression in the hottest cylinders. I recommend stock exhaust valves and change them regularly. They're pretty cheap. >The airplane is at almost full >throttle, and your bug is rarely full throttle for very long, or you'd >be going 90 mph or so. At full throttle my bug wouldn't go over 70. It's got no tach. but I can tell at that speed the engine is really straining. >I used to be the engine mechanic at >the VW dealership in Las Vegas I used to be a vw engine mechanic too. Worked on lots of buses. >I could argue all day about this, but there's no doubt that aircraft >use demands far more from an engine than automotive use. I don't agree. If you set the engine up properly then it will run cool and will be reliable. They last longer if they run at one speed and pretty much in one tempature range which is where air cooled engines are at their best. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:22:29 -0700 From: "Steve Glover" Subject: RE: RE: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <002101c5a54f$8afdb790$9865fea9@IntelliSpec> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Dan, I've run AvGas exclusively in my 2180 without problem (at least as far as heads and such). I wouldn't worry about it. It seems any problems will manifest itself way before any significant problem occurs. As you know, I have flown my KR all across the USA and the VW has never let me down...just leaked a lot of oil. :) Even with some of the other issues I experienced, It always brought me home safely. As always, your results may vary. Regards, Steve Glover KR-2 N902G AJO, Ca ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 05:48:49 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> pitot/static location To: Message-ID: <4306FC81.00000E.02092@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Larry, Have you posted any current pics with the wheel pants on? See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- > The picture is not a real closeup but you can see it at: > http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929270.jpg > Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:15:38 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> tappets adjustments To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <039f01c5a580$e0903030$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I wrote: > >I could argue all day about this, but there's no doubt that aircraft > >use demands far more from an engine than automotive use. and Joe Beyer wrote: > I don't agree. If you set the engine up properly then it will run cool > and will be reliable. I didn't say you couldn't make an automotive engine run cool and be reliable. People do it every day, but if you think it's not working a lot harder than the automotive counterpart, you are in the minority... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:57:30 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> pitot/static location To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050820075730.00804a10@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Larry, > >Have you posted any current pics with the wheel pants on? >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The pants are yet unpainted. As a matter of fact, their home in my garage right now. I'm finishing up the fareing and plan to prep for paint. My "Smooth Prime" is on backorder. To answer your question, no............... Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 09:18:27 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: KR> KR info To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00fb01c5a589$a839f3c0$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello Net The KR info spreadsheet located at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm is starting to produce useful number. For example the average KR-2 weight is 596. The average KR-2 speed is 144.5 MPH Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:55:43 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> pitot/static location To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005101c5a58e$dc20bfc0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Take a look at this link to see how I set mine up. It works perfect as confirmed with my GPS. http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/wing.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eduardo Iglesias" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:16 PM Subject: Re: KR> pitot/static location Itīs good for me. If you find any more, tell me. Thank you Eduardo ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: Re: KR> pitot/static location > At 09:14 AM 8/18/05 -0300, you wrote: >>Hi Larry >> >>Have you ay pics of that? >> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > The picture is not a real closeup but you can see it at: > > http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929270.jpg > > I might be able to find a better one given some time. > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > --- > [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > > --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:01:06 -0400 From: "Dave Jeltema" Subject: RE: KR> RE: Barnstormer KR To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed rob you be safe there and i really appreciate everything you do!!!!!!!! Thank You Dave Jeltema >From: "LTC Robert Schmitt" >Reply-To: robert.schmitt@us.army.mil, KRnet >To: >Subject: KR> RE: Barnstormer KR >Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:03:17 +0400 > >I'd love to hear the rest of the story as well. Calvin Campbell's airplane >was at the first gathering I attended I thought it was truly inspirational. >If I recall correctly it was originally built by Lance Neubaur of >"Lanceair" >fame. > > > >Please have a few beers for me at the gathering, I'm still in Baghdad >enjoying the sunny Middle-East - no real beer allowed. My almost finished >KR2S awaits my return. Just sand/fill and paint left to do. I'm hoping to >fly in for the 06 gathering. > > > >LTC Rob Schmitt > >Baghdad, Iraq > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 13:10:53 GMT > >From: "Jeff Scott" > >Subject: Re: KR> Barnstormer KR > >To: krnet@mylist.net > >Message-ID: <20050819.061058.8422.56474@webmail06.lax.untd.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >I looked at the Barnstormer's link Robert listed below and noted that >Calvin >Campbell's KR was there listed as a wrecked rebuilder. (with some very low >prices for some of the parts!) Anyone know the story behind that? > > > >-Jeff Scott > > > >-- "Robert L. Stone" wrote: > >Hi Ryan, > > Check "BARNSTORMERS" at http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php go to >the > >Experemental section under KR aircraft and you may find one there for sale. > >There are always some KR aircraft being offered. > > > >Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > >rstone4@hot.rr.com > > > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:24:22 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> pitot/static location To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050820132422.008315b0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Take a look at this link to see how I set mine up. It works perfect as >confirmed with my GPS. >http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/wing.html >Mark Jones (N886MJ) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ When you're considering mounting/location, make sure it is easily serviced. It will be one of those items that is the most easily damaged. Extra hose, quick disconnects, etc. or whatever it takes. Mine is mounted on the inboard end of the outer wing panel. When I attach the outer wing, I feed the extra hose through the mount hole and attach pitot/static assembly after the wing is secured. I have a 4"X9" access hole on the bottom side of the wing center section to attach my fuel and electrical lines. If I need to service the pitot/static assembly, I take out the two screws that attach the assembly, pull it down, remove the hose and do whatever work is necessary. The other thing to consider is keeping it outside the prop arc. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:32:22 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> KR family in service to the country To: robert.schmitt@us.army.mil,KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050820133222.00836100@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Please have a few beers for me at the gathering, I'm still in Baghdad >enjoying the sunny Middle-East - no real beer allowed. My almost finished >KR2S awaits my return. Just sand/fill and paint left to do. I'm hoping to >fly in for the 06 gathering. >LTC Rob Schmitt >Baghdad, Iraq +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LTC Schmitt, I'm sure I speak for most everyone on the krnet when I say we appreciate your service. Those of us in the U.S. should appreciate the fact that we can go to the airport, roll out our KR and go flying without getting clearance or reporting to anyone. I'm sure the Gathering campers will raise their glass in a toast to your efforts. You guys with the cameras, how about posting a picture of the event? It could be in honor of all those serving such as Eric pitts and others. THANK YOU........... Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:21:47 -0800 From: "Al Friesen" Subject: Re: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007701c5a5c4$cab0bac0$c56851cf@alk1e9f7i3pcg3> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original If alcohol in auto fuel is the problem can not the rubber (synthetic rubber) parts be made to tolerate these additives. I think there is a bit of legal bs going around this fuel issue. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:51 PM Subject: Re: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison > Yes, one of the really bad components of Auto Fuel can be alcohol. > I asked Ellison why they did not make their carb to hold up to Auto Fuel > and they told me that it was because they could not know what was in the > auto fuel and therefore could not test for it. > In many states, there is a law that says that the fuel company does not > have to tell you what is in the fuel. Here in SC, I have asked and the > attendants at the gas station have no idea and it is not posted on the > pumps. If they would just tell you what is in it, you could avoid these > things. > > Too bad that the aviation industry has not caught up with the times and > made a regulated fuel that can be used in modern engines. > > You Wrote: > > I would have to use gasohol here in Kansas. Would this be adverse in an > Ellison? > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:12:21 -0500 From: Subject: Re: RE: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003501c5a5bb$17964a80$cc409445@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dan, What has happened to your engine? Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: Re: RE: KR> Avgas/Mogas & Ellison > Yea, I guess I at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 316 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================