From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 327 Date: 8/27/2005 12:48:20 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. ride from St Louis (Lee Van Dyke) 2. Re: Yeeeeee Haaaaaaaaa Moment (Orma) 3. R?f. : RE: KR> Main gear jack info (Serge VIDAL) 4. Re: Réf. : RE: KR> Main gear jack info (Scott William) 5. Re: KR fly in" camping" (Martha Crawford) 6. Re: props (Mark Langford) 7. Re: props (Mark Langford) 8. Mark J (glidden@ccrtc.com) 9. Re: Yeeeeee Haaaaaaaaa Moment (Mark Jones) 10. Finally Home from trip! (IFLYKRS@aol.com) 11. Start build from the wings (Dubi Gefen) 12. RE: KR fly in (wilder_jeff Wilder) 13. R?f. : Re: R?f. : RE: KR> Main gear jack info (Serge VIDAL) 14. Re: KR fly in (Mark Jones) 15. Re: Start build from the wings (Dan Heath) 16. Re: Start build from the wings (Mark Langford) 17. Re: KR fly in (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:41:09 -0700 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: KR> ride from St Louis To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b901c5aac1$8b509010$6401a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have received E-mail from 2 or 3 different people who are arriving in St Louis on Thursday around 1pm. If you guys could E-mail me off line I would like to share a ride with someone. I have just decided that I will not be able to make the long flight in my KR at this time..... Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 06:37:16 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Yeeeeee Haaaaaaaaa Moment To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00ca01c5aaf3$4ca60250$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I'm impressed with the power. I'll be talking to Ed Struba soon to have a new prop made. Is there bigger then my 52x52 in the bank that I could try? Orma Southfield, MI N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:15:15 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : RE: KR> Main gear jack info To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I once changed the bolts that hold the main undercarriage to the spar (in my case, the fixed main landing gear holds with two large L-shaped brackets to the main spar). I had the idea to put two protruding eye nuts, in order to use them as tie down points. I seldom used them as tie-down points, but they prove very useful as jack-up points. The eyes being round, they compensate the pitch attitude nicely, so I can jack no matter whether the tail is up or down. Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "Brian Kraut" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-08-25 05:36 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-08-25 05:36 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : RE: KR> Main gear jack info I had to jack my Mustang about a month ago to change the axles and I used this method. I used two C clamps to clamp a scrap block of aluminum to the leg (piece of wood 2X4 should also work fine) and I just put a cheap bottle jack under it. On my KR I had the 1/4" threaded hole in the center of the axle for holding on the wheel pants. I used to use a 4' piece of 2X4 with a screw in the side of it about 10" from the end. I would put a 2" bolt in the threaded hole in the axle and use the 2X4 as a lever to lift the plane. The screw in the board was put under the bolt and that kept the plane from sliding down the board as it was lifted. I had a couple of other wood blocks that were the right height to put under the gear leg when it was lifted. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of larry flesner Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:08 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Main gear jack info >I have a tailwheel configuration with the "Grove" main gear legs and no >wheel covers. The brake line follows the rear edge of leg and is >glassed in. Does anyone have any recommendations for jacking plane >enough to remove >a main wheel? Is there a clamp-type tool usable around the brake line? I >don't want to muscle it up on a foam pillow. Thanks! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I've not done it personally but I know an A&P, IA, that uses a LARGE "C" clamp. He puts some plywood on the gear leg so the "C" clamp won't damage the leg and then uses a roll-around floor jack to lift the aircraft. I know he uses this method on most flat spring gear Cessnas and your KR will be much lighter. I'd suggest that after you have the aircraft raised you block it to stabilize it and keep it from falling on you. A friend of mine was killed trying to change landing gear bungees when the airplane fell on him. Damn shame.......... Larry Flesner _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:38:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott William Subject: Re: Réf. : RE: KR> Main gear jack info To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050827113807.21130.qmail@web31510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Being new to this forum, I hesitate to speak out....but all the Eyebolt hardware I have ever seen hasn't been SAE rated and was weak. Is this a factor on the landing gear? Scott --- Serge VIDAL wrote: > I once changed the bolts that hold the main > undercarriage to the spar (in > my case, the fixed main landing gear holds with two > large L-shaped > brackets to the main spar). I had the idea to put > two protruding eye nuts, > in order to use them as tie down points. I seldom > used them as tie-down > points, but they prove very useful as jack-up > points. The eyes being > round, they compensate the pitch attitude nicely, so > I can jack no matter > whether the tail is up or down. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > "Brian Kraut" > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > 2005-08-25 05:36 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-08-25 05:36 > > > Pour : "KRnet" > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : RE: KR> Main gear jack info > > > > I had to jack my Mustang about a month ago to change > the axles and I used > this method. I used two C clamps to clamp a scrap > block of aluminum to > the > leg (piece of wood 2X4 should also work fine) and I > just put a cheap > bottle > jack under it. > > On my KR I had the 1/4" threaded hole in the center > of the axle for > holding > on the wheel pants. I used to use a 4' piece of 2X4 > with a screw in the > side of it about 10" from the end. I would put a 2" > bolt in the threaded > hole in the axle and use the 2X4 as a lever to lift > the plane. The screw > in > the board was put under the bolt and that kept the > plane from sliding down > the board as it was lifted. I had a couple of other > wood blocks that were > the right height to put under the gear leg when it > was lifted. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of larry flesner > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:08 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Main gear jack info > > > >I have a tailwheel configuration with the "Grove" > main gear legs and no > >wheel covers. The brake line follows the rear edge > of leg and is glassed > >in. Does anyone have any recommendations for > jacking plane enough to > remove > >a main wheel? Is there a clamp-type tool usable > around the brake line? I > >don't want to muscle it up on a foam pillow. > Thanks! > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I've not done it personally but I know an A&P, IA, > that uses a LARGE > "C" clamp. He puts some plywood on the gear leg so > the "C" > clamp won't damage the leg and then uses a > roll-around floor jack > to lift the aircraft. I know he uses this method on > most flat spring > gear Cessnas and your KR will be much lighter. > > I'd suggest that after you have the aircraft raised > you block it > to stabilize it and keep it from falling on you. A > friend of mine > was killed trying to change landing gear bungees > when the > airplane fell on him. Damn shame.......... > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:54:54 -0400 From: Martha Crawford Subject: Re: KR> KR fly in" camping" To: KRnet Message-ID: <55484fe1edb47a0cd39c6132b1465a55@simerson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed HHOOODY all I am doing a new Menards store set in Holland Ohio and cant brake loss till about 1 or 2 ish friyday. Its about a 8 hour drive from there, so To all the campers KEEP that fire burning late. I'm hoping to be able to get there before midnight. Keith Crawford Lansing MI ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 09:16:38 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> props To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <03e001c5ab11$f09334a0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Orma wrote: > I'm impressed with the power. I'll be talking to Ed Struba soon to have a > new prop made. Is there bigger then my 52x52 in the bank that I could try? Orma, if you'll wait until the Gathering, you can try a Sensenich 54x54 that I'll have on my KR. Jones may have one also. I have a Sterba 52x60 (I think it is) that you could try too. I could ship it to you. I don't think it'll fit in the plane, but I might try it... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:00:15 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> props To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <03ef01c5ab18$087e8000$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I wrote: > Orma, if you'll wait until the Gathering, you can try a Sensenich 54x54 that > I'll have on my KR. Wrongo though. Mine's an SAE1 pattern, and yours is probably the typical VW pattern. The 52x60 Sterba is drilled for both though, so that one would still work... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:08:58 -0500 From: glidden@ccrtc.com Subject: KR> Mark J To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <200508271008579.SM00140@ccrtc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mark That oil pan on ebay is up to $ 150.00 with a couple hours left...... ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:42:48 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Yeeeeee Haaaaaaaaa Moment To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001301c5ab1d$fbc63780$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nope, we have a 52x50 and a three blade warp drive which is out on loan right now. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 5:37 AM Subject: Re: KR> Yeeeeee Haaaaaaaaa Moment > I'm impressed with the power. I'll be talking to Ed Struba soon to have a > new prop made. Is there bigger then my 52x52 in the bank that I could try? > > Orma > Southfield, MI > N110LR Tweety, old enough to drink this year > Flying and more flying, to the gathering or bust > http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:54:29 EDT From: IFLYKRS@aol.com Subject: KR> Finally Home from trip! To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <80.2eb1f5b9.3041e6b5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello to Kr-landia! It has been a very busy two months with 41768. A little update on what Ive been doing. Elaine (9yr daughter) and I left Valdosta GA and flew to Tulsa OK on July 3rd to visit with my sister. Did that 840 mile leg in 5.1 hours on 26 gallons of fuel. I had a little headwind but not bad. Cool weather at 11,000'. My dad flew his Cessna 180 down from New Richmond WI and we spent the 4th there in Tulsa. We then flew to New Richmond WI together in formation. The 180 does about 145 mph at 70% power. I was at about 50% and 19"MAP keeping up. My mom took a few nice in-flight photos that I will try to post somehow. We did that trip in about 5 hours as well. I sent a week or so helping my dad with a Cessna 170B that was ground looped and damaged - rebuilding everything forward from the rear door post. Lots of riviting and making panels. New Richmond had a small air show and my dad and I displayed our planes on the tarmac there. A couple KR guys came by to visit. Del Magsam had his Corvair powered Sonex there as well. On Friday before Oshkosh Elaine and I flew to Waupaca WI to visit Pete Broadagan and see his Corvair KR2-S. Very nice and well on his way - it is running now. He and his wife took great care of us. The local airport had a great cookout there and many airplanes flew in from all over for the get together. We then left on Saturday enroute to Broadhead for the Peitenpol fly-in bu never landed there due to really bad weather that ha moved in so we went to Madison WI where we had been invited to stay with Dick Hartwig (Kr wanabee) and his wife. Dick invited us for a hanger Swing dance that EAA was promoting. What FUN!. Elaine and I got to try our hand at dancing (not a pretty sight) and we listend to the sounds of Glen Miller music all night from "The Ladies must Swing" big band. They were very good. We also got the opportunity to get a tour of "Fuddy Duddy" a B-17 that is on loan to EAA since "Aluminum Overcast" is under repairs. We had opportunity to get some picture of N41768 under the wing of the B-17. Looks really neat! The main tires of the B-17 are taller that the KR! Sunday - After a peasant visit with the Hartwig family we flew to Hartford and had a brat and soda with the likes of Mark Jones, Mark Langford, and a bunch of other Kr enthusiast. Joe Weber flew his KR in from Cuba City WI and we flew to Oshkosh together from there. Charlie Becker (EAA Homebuilt manager) got me prime real estate in the homebuilt section. He had me parked right in front of the new Homebuilt Headquarters and had made signs for my plane about building a low cost plane. Some of you may have seen an article that was done about it. My dad arrived in Oshkosh the day before with the 180. He was a former mission aviation pilot with MAF (Mission Aviation Fellowship) and helped out at the MAF booth in Hanger D. The 180 was his first plane he used in the mission field in Mexico in 1969 (after I turned 1) which we were able to purchase about 15 years ago and rebuild. It has a lot of interesting misson modifications on it. Monday -Monday - Oshkosh- was a lot of fun but I spent most of my time talking to people about the KR - the Corvair Conversion and flying. Elaine spent most of her time at the local YMCA and the EAA museum. I met a lot of known faces and many new ones. Forgive me but I am sure I will forget most names. It was nice to meet Burt Rutan and see Spaceship One and Global Flyer and see all the cool planes. A note about Oshkosh and KRs - WHY aren't there more KRs showing up ? There is a need for low cost fun airplane to be displayed there. People are VERY interested in the KR simplicity and uniqueness. I hope to see more there next year. Very few people go and check out the RV's and Glassair anymore - they are pricey and look all the same. People are interested is something different. Too bad Janet Rand doesnt show up anymore but I sure hope more KR will start going. There were a total of 4 KRs all week. Mine, Joe Weber's, the Porgapolis Pig, and another from a couple who trailered to to Fon Du Lac and the flew it in. A very nice KR! Elaine got a ride back to Valdosta with Glenda McKlewee and I flew back to New Richmond in formation with my dad on Monday after Oshkosh. More nice photos I can show soon. I work on a King Air and a 414 for a week to make some dough and then the following Sunday we gat a message that my grandmother had passed away. My dad and I ended up flying people to South Dakota in the 180 for the funeral that week. I really enjoy flying with my dad. We both have Cessna 180 time - I have about 120 hours and he has a little over 7500 hours...it was great fun. The following week was work with my dad. We are rebuilding a Cessna Turbo 206 and I took my paint gun with and prepped and paint the 206. I was able to paint all the color and trim on everything but the horizontal that week. Perhaps in the pring Ill go back and do the interior for him while he get the engine rebuilt. I left New Richmond WI this past Saturday at 2:30 pm and flew to Huntsville AL and spen the night at the Langford Manor. It was good to see Marks engine make it into the airframe. I really cant wait to see him at the Gathering. Sunday I left Huntville and flew to Massey Ranch in Edgewater FL to William Wynne's hangar to begin the installation of the new cowling/spinner and such. I finished up the installation on Wednesday and flew home to Valdosta. The New cowl and spinner are made is such a way that it allows you to use the entire WW conversion package. That means you can build or purchase the Corvair engine, mount, cowl, spinner, starter, baffling, exhaust, breather, and prop specifically designed for use on the KR2 and 2S. I still dont have the cowl finished as far as paint and such but here are preliminary numbers - Climb oil temp on a 98 degree day 89%humidity - after 5000' on a hot engine (meaning that it was not first run of the day). Oil tep was 230 in the climb and stabilized at 205 level at 7500'. Not bad at all for a very hot Florida day! CHT was 340 in the climb and 240 level cruise. My airspeed was need Identical to to previos cowl - maybe 3 mph faster! Once the finishwork is done I wll have more numbers. The last number is the fact that my plane is now 11.5 lbs LIGHTER! I will same even more weight when I finish all the conversion. More to be said later. I hope on making the Gathering but wont plan on having all the conversion finished. WW is hoping to fly the 601 to the gathering to do some KR promotion and handle questions and tech stuff for anyone interested. Also good time to check the 601 out - a fantastic airplane! Well - my last weeks have been busy - put 25 hours on the plane with no problems and covers over 3200 miles and 10 states. Most was with me, Elaine and 100 lbs of baggage. Could not have had more fun. Fly safe Yall - see you at the gathering Lord Willing! Bill and 41768 ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:23:04 +0200 From: "Dubi Gefen" Subject: KR> Start build from the wings To: Message-ID: <000001c5ab23$9f18e0e0$7407a8c0@privatevkzwc19> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello KRnet I made decision to start build the aircraft from the wings first and then continue to fuselage. Are there any builder thinking there can be problem with this process steps? Dubi Gefen. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:06:14 -0600 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: RE: KR> KR fly in To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I am bout 90% commited to going... I will be driving out from Denver, Co.... is there anyone that would be interested in going with me? I really dont know if I want to drive it alone... -Jeff >From: "Brian Kraut" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: RE: KR> KR fly in >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:44:36 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by MC8-F29.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:44:51 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E8pkU-000Ga1-MR; Fri, 26 Aug >2005 18:44:49 -0700 >Received: from mail.engalt.com ([65.77.234.50])by lizard.esosoft.net with >esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E8pkO-000GZr-Dlfor krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 >18:44:44 -0700 >Received: from bknotebook [64.200.230.172] by mail.engalt.com(SMTPD32-8.15) >id A6FE723009A; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:50:54 -0400 >X-Message-Info: TiNwL5K19MG2qqXN0RY/kdx+OaYNxX9Zy4tcPKZnydU= >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2005 01:44:51.0880 (UTC) >FILETIME=[EAB3B280:01C5AAA8] > >Not only acceptable, but a whole lot of fun! > >Brian Kraut >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. >www.engalt.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On >Behalf Of wilder_jeff Wilder >Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:53 PM >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> KR fly in > > > >Is there a count for the amount of people that are going to camp out >there?.. I thought that I read that camping out was an accetable activity > > >I have about 900 miles to drive to get there.. and thought it to be fun if >I >go, I can camp somewhere rather then the hotel. > >-Jeff > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 21:10:44 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: R?f. : RE: KR> Main gear jack info To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nuts and bolts don't necessarily have to be SAE rated to be good. I used high quality, industrial bolts. Stainless steel (for aesthetics), and imported from Germany. Serge Scott William Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-08-27 13:38 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-08-27 13:38 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: Réf. : RE: KR> Main gear jack info Being new to this forum, I hesitate to speak out....but all the Eyebolt hardware I have ever seen hasn't been SAE rated and was weak. Is this a factor on the landing gear? Scott --- Serge VIDAL wrote: > I once changed the bolts that hold the main > undercarriage to the spar (in > my case, the fixed main landing gear holds with two > large L-shaped > brackets to the main spar). I had the idea to put > two protruding eye nuts, > in order to use them as tie down points. I seldom > used them as tie-down > points, but they prove very useful as jack-up > points. The eyes being > round, they compensate the pitch attitude nicely, so > I can jack no matter > whether the tail is up or down. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > "Brian Kraut" > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > 2005-08-25 05:36 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-08-25 05:36 > > > Pour : "KRnet" > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : RE: KR> Main gear jack info > > > > I had to jack my Mustang about a month ago to change > the axles and I used > this method. I used two C clamps to clamp a scrap > block of aluminum to > the > leg (piece of wood 2X4 should also work fine) and I > just put a cheap > bottle > jack under it. > > On my KR I had the 1/4" threaded hole in the center > of the axle for > holding > on the wheel pants. I used to use a 4' piece of 2X4 > with a screw in the > side of it about 10" from the end. I would put a 2" > bolt in the threaded > hole in the axle and use the 2X4 as a lever to lift > the plane. The screw > in > the board was put under the bolt and that kept the > plane from sliding down > the board as it was lifted. I had a couple of other > wood blocks that were > the right height to put under the gear leg when it > was lifted. > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net > [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of larry flesner > Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:08 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Main gear jack info > > > >I have a tailwheel configuration with the "Grove" > main gear legs and no > >wheel covers. The brake line follows the rear edge > of leg and is glassed > >in. Does anyone have any recommendations for > jacking plane enough to > remove > >a main wheel? Is there a clamp-type tool usable > around the brake line? I > >don't want to muscle it up on a foam pillow. > Thanks! > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > I've not done it personally but I know an A&P, IA, > that uses a LARGE > "C" clamp. He puts some plywood on the gear leg so > the "C" > clamp won't damage the leg and then uses a > roll-around floor jack > to lift the aircraft. I know he uses this method on > most flat spring > gear Cessnas and your KR will be much lighter. > > I'd suggest that after you have the aircraft raised > you block it > to stabilize it and keep it from falling on you. A > friend of mine > was killed trying to change landing gear bungees > when the > airplane fell on him. Damn shame.......... > > Larry Flesner > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:31:55 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> KR fly in To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004401c5ab3d$fc11b1e0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You need to be 100% committed. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" To: Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:06 PM Subject: RE: KR> KR fly in > I am bout 90% commited to going... I will be driving out from Denver, Co.... > > is there anyone that would be interested in going with me? I really dont > know if I want to drive it alone... > > -Jeff > > > > >From: "Brian Kraut" > >Reply-To: KRnet > >To: "KRnet" > >Subject: RE: KR> KR fly in > >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:44:36 -0400 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by MC8-F29.hotmail.com > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:44:51 -0700 > >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by > >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E8pkU-000Ga1-MR; Fri, 26 Aug > >2005 18:44:49 -0700 > >Received: from mail.engalt.com ([65.77.234.50])by lizard.esosoft.net with > >esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E8pkO-000GZr-Dlfor krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 > >18:44:44 -0700 > >Received: from bknotebook [64.200.230.172] by mail.engalt.com(SMTPD32-8.15) > >id A6FE723009A; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:50:54 -0400 > >X-Message-Info: TiNwL5K19MG2qqXN0RY/kdx+OaYNxX9Zy4tcPKZnydU= > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 > >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 > >Precedence: list > >List-Id: KRnet > >List-Unsubscribe: > >, > >List-Archive: > >List-Post: > >List-Help: > >List-Subscribe: > >, > >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net > >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2005 01:44:51.0880 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[EAB3B280:01C5AAA8] > > > >Not only acceptable, but a whole lot of fun! > > > >Brian Kraut > >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > >www.engalt.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > >Behalf Of wilder_jeff Wilder > >Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:53 PM > >To: krnet@mylist.net > >Subject: KR> KR fly in > > > > > > > >Is there a count for the amount of people that are going to camp out > >there?.. I thought that I read that camping out was an accetable activity > > > > > >I have about 900 miles to drive to get there.. and thought it to be fun if > >I > >go, I can camp somewhere rather then the hotel. > > > >-Jeff > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:31:58 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Start build from the wings To: Message-ID: <4310BFAE.000011.03296@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It seems that most people do it like that, but If you can put off the wing stubs to last, it will make it a lot easier to work around the fuselage. The finished stubs keep getting in the way and are very difficult to work around See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- I made decision to start build the aircraft from the wings first and then continue to fuselage. Are there any builder thinking there can be problem with this process steps? ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:39:56 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Start build from the wings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <043601c5ab3f$1ab18ca0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I made decision to start build the aircraft from the wings first and > then continue to fuselage. > Are there any builder thinking there can be problem with this process I'm sure this has been said before too, but most of the kit companies start you out with the tail feathers first, because it's a good place to learn the skills you'll need before you get to something as important as the wings. If you screw up the horizontal stab, you haven't lost much, but a wing is major trouble. If you're new to composites, you really ought to "warm up" on the tail feathers first. And I can't help but think that spruce spar material is a lot easier to store than two 96" x 48" wings! I sure am tired of moving my wings around... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 15:48:23 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR fly in To: Message-ID: <4310C387.000015.03296@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" commit yourself man, commit yourself. Get there by plane, train, car, or bus. Walk if you have to , but get there. You will regret it for another year if you don't. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- From: Mark Jones Date: 08/27/05 15:29:37 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> KR fly in You need to be 100% committed. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" To: Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 2:06 PM Subject: RE: KR> KR fly in > I am bout 90% commited to going... I will be driving out from Denver, Co.... > > is there anyone that would be interested in going with me? I really dont > know if I want to drive it alone... > > -Jeff > > > > >From: "Brian Kraut" > >Reply-To: KRnet > >To: "KRnet" > >Subject: RE: KR> KR fly in > >Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:44:36 -0400 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by MC8-F29.hotmail.com > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:44:51 -0700 > >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by > >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1E8pkU-000Ga1-MR; Fri, 26 Aug > >2005 18:44:49 -0700 > >Received: from mail.engalt.com ([65.77.234.50])by lizard.esosoft.net with > >esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E8pkO-000GZr-Dlfor krnet@mylist.net; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 > >18:44:44 -0700 > >Received: from bknotebook [64.200.230.172] by mail.engalt.com(SMTPD32-8.15) > >id A6FE723009A; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:50:54 -0400 > >X-Message-Info: TiNwL5K19MG2qqXN0RY/kdx+OaYNxX9Zy4tcPKZnydU= > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 > >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 > >Precedence: list > >List-Id: KRnet > >List-Unsubscribe: > >, > >List-Archive: > >List-Post: > >List-Help: > >List-Subscribe: > >, > >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net > >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2005 01:44:51.0880 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[EAB3B280:01C5AAA8] > > > >Not only acceptable, but a whole lot of fun! > > > >Brian Kraut > >Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > >www.engalt.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net >mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net">krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > >Behalf Of wilder_jeff Wilder > >Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:53 PM > >To: krnet@mylist.net > >Subject: KR> KR fly in > > > > > > > >Is there a count for the amount of people that are going to camp out > >there?.. I thought that I read that camping out was an accetable activity > > > > > >I have about 900 miles to drive to get there.. and thought it to be fun if > >I > >go, I can camp somewhere rather then the hotel. > > > >-Jeff > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 327 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================