From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 357 Date: 9/12/2005 4:05:12 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. 2006 Gathering (Scott Cable) 2. Italian KR2S (Cris.) 3. R?f. : KR> 2006 Gathering (Serge VIDAL) 4. 05 gathering (larry flesner) 5. 2005 Gathering Report (larry flesner) 6. Re: T-Shirts (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 7. Italian KR2S !!! (Cris.) 8. Re: Oshkosh 2007 (Kenneth B. Jones) 9. R?f. : KR> Italian KR2S (Serge VIDAL) 10. Re: R?f. : KR> Italian KR2S (Cris.) 11. RE: Oshkosh 2007 (Wood, Sidney M.) 12. Re: Italian KR2S !!! (patrusso) 13. Gathering Date (Dan Heath) 14. RE: Gathering Date (Mark Jones) 15. Re: A380 Lower Lobe (Scott Cable) 16. R?f. : KR> Re: A380 Lower Lobe (Serge VIDAL) 17. RE: Gathering Date (jeffyork40@qx.net) 18. Re: Re: A380 Lower Lobe (Scott Cable) 19. Re: Gathering Date (Ed Janssen) 20. RE: Gathering Date (wilder_jeff Wilder) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:06:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: KR> 2006 Gathering To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050912050616.25723.qmail@web53005.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Netheads, Sorry that I couldn't make the Gathering- I had to work. I'm the only Design Engineer working on the A380 Lower Lobe, and have been doing 60+ hour work weeks for over a month now. I'm extremely pleased that the 2006 GAthering will be again at Mt Vernon. Hopefully next year I'll be able to make it. Work committments or not! Glenda, Thanks for posting the pictures on your website, they were great! Brought back some memories of of last year! Dan & Jerry, Sorry I missed you guys this year, no more excuses for Flying to next years Gathering eh? Mark, I was really looking forward to seeing your airplane and talking to you... Save me a seat for next year OK? Scott Cable Jamestown, ND s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:07:48 +0200 From: "Cris." Subject: KR> Italian KR2S To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As you already know, I'll start building in 2006. I'm trying to study everything I can in these months and I had the chance to know some nice people by email, even in Italy (!). The last one (chronologically) is Alberto Zorzi. He's an Air Force pilot, flies almost everything and has a flying KR2S and one more almost ready. I went to his airfield to see the first one and... I'm really impressed both by the guy and the plane. It's the first KR I see "live" and I LOVE IT. He told me he would send me some pics to show you, but I made some myself. As soon I download them I'll put them on a web space to share them. Bycicle, no flaps, belly board, leather interiors, Limbach (Great Planes) engine, nice instruments panel with certified stuff. He's currently selling it (he's almost completed a new one). Ciao! Cris. -- Land the airplane, rubber side down, main wheels first. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:29:03 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> 2006 Gathering To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Scott. Could you tell us what is a Lower Lobe? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France Scott Cable Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 09/12/2005 07:06 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 09/12/2005 07:07 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> 2006 Gathering Netheads, Sorry that I couldn't make the Gathering- I had to work. I'm the only Design Engineer working on the A380 Lower Lobe, and have been doing 60+ hour work weeks for over a month now. I'm extremely pleased that the 2006 GAthering will be again at Mt Vernon. Hopefully next year I'll be able to make it. Work committments or not! Glenda, Thanks for posting the pictures on your website, they were great! Brought back some memories of of last year! Dan & Jerry, Sorry I missed you guys this year, no more excuses for Flying to next years Gathering eh? Mark, I was really looking forward to seeing your airplane and talking to you... Save me a seat for next year OK? Scott Cable Jamestown, ND s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:56:41 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> 05 gathering To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050912065641.008988c0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >From: FIXERJONES@aol.com >Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:56:18 EDT >Subject: 05 gathering >To: flesner@midwest.net >X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5017 >X-Spam-Flag: NO >X-ELNK-AV: 0 will you please post this for me, the stupid matronics has rejected me for reasons i don't understand. i can't recieve any post's or send them. wish it could be resolved soon,steve jones, thanks alot! This is n212kr, steve jones, letting everyone know i made it back to venice fl with no problem! WOW,,,,,what a good time getting to meet everyone & see alot of kr's all at one time. gettin up & over the soupy hase into sunny blue skies is really nice & smooth thanks to the turbo. 8500 ft all the way, the first half @150 mph & the 2nd half @ 165 & 178 mph, a little help from the tailwind god, wow,what a trip! my first looooooong one. i'm ready for another one soon! by the way, i'm not gettin kr mail due to a problem called a ( bounce) i'm lost with this? i submitted a e mail thats supposed to turn it back on, all i can do is wait & see if it starts to send kr net mail again so i can't see what everyone post's untill then :-( fixerjones at aol.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:20:20 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> 2005 Gathering Report To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050912082020.00797b90@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Netters and Gathering attendees, Thanks to everyone that helped make the 2005 KR Gathering a great success. The weather co-operated, for the most part, although it was a bit warm and hazy. Everyone acted responsibility and the result was a safe Gathering and everyone having a good time. Personally, I got to do a bit more flying this year and that was great. I had hoped to do a bit more formation flying but it didn't work out. I managed to give three rides and I'm thinking I ought to call my KR "Ambassador". Of the total of seven rides I've given to date, three have been to non-USA citizens. On the financial side, I think we came out O.K. I'll have a detailed report in the next couple of days and have Bob post it to the net. The only extra expense we had this year over last was staffing at the registration table. I felt bad last year that several people (6or 8) drove for hours or days only to set behind the registration table for hours at a time. This year I made a donation to the local EAA chapter and to a church youth group for their support in staffing the booth from 8:00am to 5:00pm on Friday and Saturday. Our attendance was down a bit from last year with 14 or 15 KRs ( 19 last year ) and 90 at the awards banquet (135 last year ). Some weather in the south as well as the recent hurricane were probably the biggest factors. Several people that attended the Gathering were not able to stay for the banquet and was part of the reason for the cutback in attendance there. We have a few shirts left over, ( large, XL, and XXL I think ) and if anyone would like an extra, let me know at flesner@midwest.net. $10 a shirt and probably $8 or so for boxing and shipping in the USA. If anyone had a special request of me at the Gathering to follow up with mailing additional shirts, hats, etc., please e-mail your request to me again. I may not find all my notes back as I go through the pile of boxes. I want to thank Wayne Williams and Dan Heath for their efforts on the invitation to hold the Gathering in Mississippi even though the attendees voted to hold the 2006 Gathering in Mt.Vernon. Personally, I'm not looking forward to the work involved in hosting the Gathering again but expect to get much more support from the city of Mt.Vernon , the tourism department, and the airport management next year. It will still be "our" Gathering but I hope to have them do much of the leg work on the details and support. I will maintain control of the finances and have the final say on planning. The only changes you should see will be the banquet at an off airport location due to construction in the terminal building, and hopefully, even better facilities for the campers. General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September, probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their input. The only thing I have left to do now is folllow up on requests, sort out all the Gathering boxes of supplies, write thank you letters to the folks at Mt.Vernon, and oh yea, do it all over again! That's all I can think of for now. Does anyone know if Orma made it home? The "Czech Dude " was Pavel Kulendik. He managed to bum two KR rides while here, one with me and one with Troy. He spent Sunday night with Chris Collins ( the airport manager ) and plans to visit St.Louis before heading back to Chicago for the flight home. Thanks again to everyone that helped out. Larry Flesner 2005 Gathering host. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:22:04 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> T-Shirts To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050912.093308.2700.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 35 At Sun N FUN, Virg On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 23:29:51 -0400 "Colin & Bev Rainey" writes: > I think we should have T-Shirts made up to celebrate and get the > momentum going that Jim talked about: > > Slogan: 35 for the 35th!! > > Thanks Bob for the help on the Corvair. > > I plan to fly to the next Corvair College, Sun n Fun and the next > Gathering, just to mention a few.... > > Colin Rainey > KSFB > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:50:38 +0200 From: "Cris." Subject: KR> Italian KR2S !!! To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I found the time to upload some pics of Alberto Zorzi's KR2S on my web space. If you want, you can see at: http://www.aviocris.com/kr2s Ciao! Cristiano. Roma (ITALY) -- Land the airplane, rubber side down, main wheels first. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:00:34 -0400 From: "Kenneth B. Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Oshkosh 2007 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001601c5b7a2$5b3397e0$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> Jim, I just want to go on record supporting your goal. If possible, I will fly my KR-2 to Oshkosh 2007. Last year I completed my 40 hour flight test just in time to make The Gathering. This year I made Sun 'n Fun, Oshkosh, MERFI, and The Gathering. The best way to assure you will fly your KR to Oshkosh in 2007 is to make a commitment now. I'm aware of at least 4 KR's that were flown to The Gathering this year after having last minute problems. They did this through extra effort because they had commited to be there. I know that sometimes you have problems that you can't overcome, but if you have made a commitment, at least you will try. BTW, last year I had to stop for fuel going to and coming from The Gathering. This year neither direction. This is due airframe drag reduction. So far, about 14% improvement, but not enough to offset fuel cost increases. :-) Ken Jones, kenbjones@cinci.rr.com Sharonville, OH N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Faughn" The one thing that I am personally promoting, beyond continuing to attend KR Gatherings, is the 35th Anniversary of the KR. This will be an Oshkosh EVENT and I will be flying there in 2007. I believe we should be able to get at least 35 KR's at the 35th Anniversary of the KR. This has to be a passion and commitment of everyone and it has now become my slogan. Plan on attending the KR Gathering next year and then Oshkosh in 2007. FINISH YOUR AIRPLANES AND BE AT OSHKOSH 2007!!!! Jim Faughn 35 KR's for the 35th Anniversary at Oshkosh 2007 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:02:47 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> Italian KR2S To: flyingb@gmail.com, KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cris, Don't wait! Start building NOW! Otherwise, when you near completion, you will feel so sorry to have to wait an extra 3 months before you can fly! ;-) I would love to know more about Italian registered KR, if only to help me convince the French airworthiness authorities when the time comes. What do you mean by "bicycle"? Are you talking by any chance about a taildragger undercarriage? In French, they call them "train classique" (taildragger) and "train tricycle" (tri-gear) About the engine, it must be either a Limbach (German design based on the VW engine) or a Great Plains ( American design based on the same engine), but it cannot be both. "Cris." Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-09-12 10:07 Veuillez répondre à flyingb; Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-09-12 10:08 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> Italian KR2S As you already know, I'll start building in 2006. I'm trying to study everything I can in these months and I had the chance to know some nice people by email, even in Italy (!). The last one (chronologically) is Alberto Zorzi. He's an Air Force pilot, flies almost everything and has a flying KR2S and one more almost ready. I went to his airfield to see the first one and... I'm really impressed both by the guy and the plane. It's the first KR I see "live" and I LOVE IT. He told me he would send me some pics to show you, but I made some myself. As soon I download them I'll put them on a web space to share them. Bycicle, no flaps, belly board, leather interiors, Limbach (Great Planes) engine, nice instruments panel with certified stuff. He's currently selling it (he's almost completed a new one). Ciao! Cris. -- Land the airplane, rubber side down, main wheels first. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:21:44 +0200 From: "Cris." Subject: Re: R?f. : KR> Italian KR2S To: Serge VIDAL , KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The engine is Great Planes :-) Alberto told me it's basically a Limbach, but many changes have been applied, you're right again. Bycicle is a rough translation for taildragger ("biciclo", in italian). I was afraid I could be forced to register the KR2S as GA, but this one is ultralight. Weight is ok, and stall speed... well, they'd better not to check. Most of modern ultralight exceed the max, here :-) There are a lot of ULM registered KR, in Italy, more than I could know! About starting... you're right. I'd like to start... yesterday, but I live in 57 square metres and simply cannot! The huge garage I'll have in 2006 is a big surprise, because I actually didn't know I could get that room! My workshop will be completely independent from the car space! My wife is very supporting and I'm lucky for that. I just hope that before the house is finished I can start to set up the workshop in the basement. I know that it will take a looong time, but time is on my side. Often the chance to have the workshop JUST under your house gives you the opportunity to take advantage of every single hour, with no need to plan. C. 2005/9/12, Serge VIDAL : > > > Cris, > > Don't wait! Start building NOW! Otherwise, when you near completion, > you > will feel so sorry to have to wait an extra 3 months before you can fly! ;-) > > I would love to know more about Italian registered KR, if only to help > me > convince the French airworthiness authorities when the time comes. > > What do you mean by "bicycle"? Are you talking by any chance about a > taildragger undercarriage? > > In French, they call them "train classique" (taildragger) and "train > tricycle" (tri-gear) > > About the engine, it must be either a Limbach (German design based on > the > VW engine) or a Great Plains ( American design based on the same engine), > but it cannot be both. > > > > *"Cris." * > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > > 2005-09-12 10:07 > Veuillez répondre à flyingb; Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-09-12 10:08 > > Pour : KRnet > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : KR> Italian KR2S > > > > As you already know, I'll start building in 2006. I'm trying to study > everything I can in these months and I had the chance to know some nice > people by email, even in Italy (!). The last one (chronologically) is > Alberto Zorzi. He's an Air Force pilot, flies almost everything and has a > flying KR2S and one more almost ready. I went to his airfield to see the > first one and... I'm really impressed both by the guy and the plane. It's > the first KR I see "live" and I LOVE IT. > > He told me he would send me some pics to show you, but I made some > myself. > > As soon I download them I'll put them on a web space to share them. > > Bycicle, no flaps, belly board, leather interiors, Limbach (Great > Planes) > engine, nice instruments panel with certified stuff. > > He's currently selling it (he's almost completed a new one). > > Ciao! > > Cris. > > -- > Land the airplane, rubber side down, main wheels first. > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- Land the airplane, rubber side down, main wheels first. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:30:49 -0400 From: "Wood, Sidney M." Subject: RE: KR> Oshkosh 2007 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jim, I shall do my 1/35th part to make it so. Sid Wood, Tri-Gear KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville, MD USA sidney.wood@titan.com Jim, I just want to go on record supporting your goal. If possible, I will fly my KR-2 to Oshkosh 2007. Last year I completed my 40 hour flight test just in time to make The Gathering. This year I made Sun 'n Fun, Oshkosh, MERFI, and The Gathering. The best way to assure you will fly your KR to Oshkosh in 2007 is to make a commitment now. I'm aware of at least 4 KR's that were flown to The Gathering this year after having last minute problems. They did this through extra effort because they had commited to be there. I know that sometimes you have problems that you can't overcome, but if you have made a commitment, at least you will try. BTW, last year I had to stop for fuel going to and coming from The Gathering. This year neither direction. This is due airframe drag reduction. So far, about 14% improvement, but not enough to offset fuel cost increases. :-) Ken Jones, kenbjones@cinci.rr.com Sharonville, OH N5834, aka The Porkopolis Flying Pig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Faughn" The one thing that I am personally promoting, beyond continuing to attend KR Gatherings, is the 35th Anniversary of the KR. This will be an Oshkosh EVENT and I will be flying there in 2007. I believe we should be able to get at least 35 KR's at the 35th Anniversary of the KR. This has to be a passion and commitment of everyone and it has now become my slogan. Plan on attending the KR Gathering next year and then Oshkosh in 2007. FINISH YOUR AIRPLANES AND BE AT OSHKOSH 2007!!!! Jim Faughn 35 KR's for the 35th Anniversary at Oshkosh 2007 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:09:32 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Italian KR2S !!! To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c5b7b4$5cec8d50$08a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original OOH la la those italians!! Cris, next time you are there, catch some detail on the tail wheel. I need to redesign mine and am looking for ideas. Also, there is a handle between the seats....I assume for a speed break as I see no flaps. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cris." Subject: KR> Gathering Date To: Message-ID: <4325B0BB.000001.02076@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I believe that better weather is available during the month of October and over the years have heard many comments about the poor weather conditions during the month of September. I have now flown to 4 gatherings and this was the first time that I was able to go to and from the gathering without incident. However, it was not without great concern as we had just had the worst hurricane in my lifetime and were being threatened by another one that is still sitting off the coast. We had to check often each day to be sure that we would be able to get back home and never knew if we were going be able to stay for the duration of the gathering. I do not understand how it can possibly be the general consensus that we continue to have this event during one of the worst times of the year for flying. I have always thought that this should be open for debate but it has always been dictated and that is something I also do not understand. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September, probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their input. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:00:13 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C4495@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying weather after long dreary winter. Some of the best flying weather I have experienced has been early Spring. Just a thought. Let's all chip in their ideas and see what the consensus is. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:46 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Gathering Date I believe that better weather is available during the month of October and over the years have heard many comments about the poor weather conditions during the month of September. I have now flown to 4 gatherings and this was the first time that I was able to go to and from the gathering without incident. However, it was not without great concern as we had just had the worst hurricane in my lifetime and were being threatened by another one that is still sitting off the coast. We had to check often each day to be sure that we would be able to get back home and never knew if we were going be able to stay for the duration of the gathering. I do not understand how it can possibly be the general consensus that we continue to have this event during one of the worst times of the year for flying. I have always thought that this should be open for debate but it has always been dictated and that is something I also do not understand. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September, probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their input. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:25:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: KR> Re: A380 Lower Lobe To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050912172519.92264.qmail@web53012.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Serge and Netters, It's the Lower Cargo Deck / Hold. Serge VIDAL wrote:Hi, Scott. Could you tell us what is a Lower Lobe? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France Scott Cable Jamestown, ND s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:28:28 +0200 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> Re: A380 Lower Lobe To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Aha! Interesting. I had no idea that was done in the US! Serge Scott Cable Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem.com@mylist.net 2005-09-12 19:25 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-09-12 19:25 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> Re: A380 Lower Lobe Serge and Netters, It's the Lower Cargo Deck / Hold. Serge VIDAL wrote:Hi, Scott. Could you tell us what is a Lower Lobe? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France Scott Cable Jamestown, ND s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:35:33 -0400 From: "jeffyork40@qx.net" Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <2cd0c43062bb4d3dba69a0b4b9c7d7a4.jeffyork40@qx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I agree with the early spring but not if it would cause the event to skip a year. Can another one be put together in 6 months or so? Jeff York Lexington, KY. N839BG Flying see my KR at http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ my website http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ ------- Original Message ------- >From : Mark Jones[mailto:Mjones@muellersales.com] Sent : 9/12/2005 1:00:13 PM To : krnet@mylist.net Cc : Subject : RE: KR> Gathering Date I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not >spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying >weather after long dreary winter. Some of the best flying weather I >have experienced has been early Spring. Just a thought. Let's all chip >in their ideas and see what the consensus is. Mark Jones (N886MJ) >Wales, WI >Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj >Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > >-----Original Message----- >From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On >Behalf Of Dan Heath >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:46 AM >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Gathering Date > > >I believe that better weather is available during the month of October >and over the years have heard many comments about the poor weather >conditions >during the month of September. I have now flown to 4 gatherings and >this >was the first time that I was able to go to and from the gathering >without >incident. However, it was not without great concern as we had just had >the >worst hurricane in my lifetime and were being threatened by another one >that >is still sitting off the coast. We had to check often each day to be >sure >that we would be able to get back home and never knew if we were going >be >able to stay for the duration of the gathering. > >I do not understand how it can possibly be the general consensus that >we continue to have this event during one of the worst times of the >year for flying. I have always thought that this should be open for >debate but it >has always been dictated and that is something I also do not understand. > > >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering >See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics >There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for >building >has expired. >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC >-------Original Message------- >General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September, >probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone >interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their input. > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:39:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: Re: KR> Re: A380 Lower Lobe To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050912173957.4696.qmail@web53003.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Serge & Netters, I have been working for the Goodrich Corporation since Janurary. Goodrich has won substantial A380 work. We're Primary System Integrator, and original equipment supplier for cargo systems, and we're designing and furnishing the Landing Gear and Engine Nacelles. Goodrich has facilities in Jamestown, ND, Chula Vista, CA and Seattle, WA. Serge VIDAL wrote: Aha! Interesting. I had no idea that was done in the US! Serge Scott Cable Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem.com@mylist.net 2005-09-12 19:25 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-09-12 19:25 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> Re: A380 Lower Lobe Serge and Netters, It's the Lower Cargo Deck / Hold. Serge VIDAL wrote:Hi, Scott. Could you tell us what is a Lower Lobe? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France Scott Cable Jamestown, ND s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html Scott Cable Jamestown, ND s2cable1@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:08:28 -0500 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001001c5b7cd$5db6b1c0$f200a8c0@dad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" A couple of thoughts when considering dates. Early Spring usually brings some pretty stiff winds here in central IL. Also, in late October, it starts getting dark pretty early in the evening - 5:00 or so after the time change. Either the last week in Sept. or the first week in October would be my choice. Ed Ed Janssen mailto:ejanssen@chipsnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date > I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not > spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying > weather after long dreary winter. Some of the best flying weather I > have experienced has been early Spring. Just a thought. Let's all chip > in their ideas and see what the consensus is. Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Dan Heath > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:46 AM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Gathering Date > > > I believe that better weather is available during the month of October > and over the years have heard many comments about the poor weather > conditions > during the month of September. I have now flown to 4 gatherings and > this > was the first time that I was able to go to and from the gathering > without > incident. However, it was not without great concern as we had just had > the > worst hurricane in my lifetime and were being threatened by another one > that > is still sitting off the coast. We had to check often each day to be > sure > that we would be able to get back home and never knew if we were going > be > able to stay for the duration of the gathering. > > I do not understand how it can possibly be the general consensus that > we continue to have this event during one of the worst times of the > year for > flying. I have always thought that this should be open for debate but > it > has always been dictated and that is something I also do not > understand. > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics There is a > time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > -------Original Message------- > General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September, > probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone > interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their input. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:04:48 -0600 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I would say that June would be nice. I have a kid that I would have loved to brought, but was unable to pull her out of school -Jeff Wilder CISSP,CCE,C/EH -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GIT/CM/CS/O d- s:+ a C+++ UH++ P L++ E- w-- N+++ o-- K- w O- M-- V-- PS+ PE- Y++ PGP++ t+ 5- X-- R* tv b++ DI++ D++ G e* h--- r- y+++* ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ >From: "jeffyork40@qx.net" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date >Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:35:33 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from lizard.esosoft.net ([38.118.200.18]) by >mc10-f13.hotmail.com >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:32:02 -0700 >Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lizard.esosoft.net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43)id 1EEs9r-000LtX-7b; Mon, 12 Sep >2005 10:31:55 -0700 >Received: from mail.qx.net ([64.191.128.27] helo=scribe.QX.Net)by >lizard.esosoft.net with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EEs9V-000LtS-8Efor >krnet@mylist.net; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:31:33 -0700 >Received: from qx.net (unverified [64.191.128.25]) by scribe.QX.Net(Vircom >SMTPRS 4.2.420.0) with ESMTP id >for; Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:35:33 -0400 >X-Message-Info: TiNwL5K19MGaEG3QRAK7Swwr4VLMh4Q6Ovq/3/cj64Q= >X-Modus-BlackList: 64.191.128.25=OK;jeffyork40@qx.net=OK >X-Modus-Trusted: 64.191.128.25=YES >X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 1, 0 >X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.4 >X-BeenThere: krnet@mylist.net >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 >Precedence: list >List-Id: KRnet >List-Unsubscribe: >, >List-Archive: >List-Post: >List-Help: >List-Subscribe: >, >Errors-To: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >Return-Path: krnet-bounces@mylist.net >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2005 17:32:02.0287 (UTC) >FILETIME=[E2DF9FF0:01C5B7BF] > >I agree with the early spring but not if it would cause the event to >skip a >year. Can another one be put together in 6 months or so? > >Jeff York >Lexington, KY. >N839BG Flying >see my KR at http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ >my website http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ > > >------- Original Message ------- > >From : Mark Jones[mailto:Mjones@muellersales.com] >Sent : 9/12/2005 1:00:13 PM >To : krnet@mylist.net >Cc : >Subject : RE: KR> Gathering Date > >I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not > >spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying > >weather after long dreary winter. Some of the best flying weather I > >have experienced has been early Spring. Just a thought. Let's all > >chip in their ideas and see what the consensus is. Mark Jones > >(N886MJ) Wales, WI > >Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > >Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > >Behalf Of Dan Heath > >Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:46 AM > >To: krnet@mylist.net > >Subject: KR> Gathering Date > > > > > >I believe that better weather is available during the month of > >October and over the years have heard many comments about the poor > >weather conditions > >during the month of September. I have now flown to 4 gatherings and > >this > >was the first time that I was able to go to and from the gathering > >without > >incident. However, it was not without great concern as we had just had > >the > >worst hurricane in my lifetime and were being threatened by another one > >that > >is still sitting off the coast. We had to check often each day to be > >sure > >that we would be able to get back home and never knew if we were going > >be > >able to stay for the duration of the gathering. > > > >I do not understand how it can possibly be the general consensus that > >we continue to have this event during one of the worst times of the > >year for flying. I have always thought that this should be open for > >debate but it > >has always been dictated and that is something I also do not understand. > > > > > >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > >See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics There is a > >time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > >has expired. > >Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > >-------Original Message------- > >General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September, > >probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone > >interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their input. > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at > >http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at > >http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 357 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================