From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 358 Date: 9/12/2005 7:35:10 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Gathering Date (larry flesner) 2. Glider Check ride (Orma) 3. Re: Gathering Report (pole shed) 4. Re: Gathering Date (Robert L. Stone) 5. RE: Glider Check ride (Joachim Saupe) 6. Re: 05 gathering (Mark Langford) 7. Re: Glider Check ride (phil brookman) 8. Re: Gathering Date (larry flesner) 9. Re: Zinc chromate (Orma) 10. Re: sunday home (Orma) 11. Re: Gathering Report (Orma) 12. Re: Gathering Report (Dan Heath) 13. Re: Gathering Date (Dan Heath) 14. Re: Gathering Date (pole shed) 15. Re: Gathering Date (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 16. Re: Glider Check ride (Brant Hollensbe) 17. Re: Gathering Report (Mark Jones) 18. Gathering Date (Mark Jones) 19. RE: sunday home (Ronald R.Eason) 20. Dual Ignition Systems, it Saved My Bacon (Mark Jones) 21. RE: THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WELLINGNESS TO HELP (PATTY GARMAN) 22. RE: Gathering Date (Jack Cooper) 23. RE: Glider Check ride (Jack Cooper) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:43:09 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050912174309.00816320@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:00 PM 9/12/05 -0500, you wrote: >I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not >spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying >weather after long dreary winter. Just a thought. Let's all chip in >their ideas and see what the consensus is. >Mark Jones (N886MJ) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Spring in southern Illinois (March through May) is very unpredictable and we often have spring storms ( can you say tornados) and some years we have rain and low clouds for weeks at time. I'll keep track of all replys to flesner@midwest.net and we will see what the feeling of the group turns out to be. I will not offer any suggestions so as not to bias anyones thinking. Reply to me personally. We don't need hundreds of posts about dates that everyone will have to wade through. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:59:42 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: KR> Glider Check ride To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011101c5b7ed$ab272a50$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Stop the press. Late arriving news flash from Michigan. Informed sources are quoted as saying that at approximately noon on Sunday Orma was given his glider qualifying check ride, joining a select group notables who have proven that under extreme pressure that it is possible to fly a powerless KR. News reports are now arriving from across Indiana of a strange looking yellow bird flying on the tail of a white gray and red craft was seen pushing a large red van along the highways of Indiana under the cover of darkness. Stand by for an update. Reporters at Crawfordville Indiana Airport, the scene of the picture perfect landing of the glider, told this reporter that the pilot seemed rather calm. The pilot stated that he had received advanced gliding advise from local celebrity Mark Langford, himself a well respected glider pilot. During an interview with the shy yellow bird (Tweety), The reporter asked why the bird decided to become a glider, The bird answered that She was sure that the valves quit moving probably because the cam shift is broken. The cam gave not warning. Other info. Altitude 7500', apx 5 kt tail wind, distance to airport 7 miles, approach same direction as flight, speed of decent apx 80 to 100mph, Attempts to restart numerous. Prop windmills at 100. Log book entry for powerless flight 0.1 Orma Southfield, MI KR-2 N110LR 1984 See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:07:03 -0700 (PDT) From: pole shed Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Report To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050912230703.43859.qmail@web31108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I would still be grazing on it, given the opportunity. The food was great. > Mine was really good!!!!!!!!!!!! > Bob Glidden > HOW WAS THAT PRIME RIB??????? > > Lee > Bet it tasted like CHICKEN Larry Lipe Carbondale,IL MSGT USMC(Ret) ______________________________________________________ Yahoo! for Good Donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:16:40 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001001c5b7df$4a0133f0$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dear Netheads, After reading many posts about the just passed get together and understanding how much you guys look florward to seeing each other and exchanging ideas, etc why not have two gatherings during the year. Spring time just as it starts to warm up but is not real hot yet and Fall just before it is too cold. Also, have your get together in the most central part of the country. The airport here in Killeen, Texas (Skylark field) would be a perfect place since the new Regional Airport was opened there is very little activity at Skylark Field. There is also plenty of space to park KR aircraft. Fuel is also cheaper there than any other airport in this area that I know of. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Janssen" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date >A couple of thoughts when considering dates. Early Spring usually >brings some pretty stiff winds here in central IL. Also, in late >October, it starts getting dark pretty early in the evening - 5:00 or >so after the time change. Either the last week in Sept. or the first >week in October would be > my choice. > > Ed > > Ed Janssen > mailto:ejanssen@chipsnet.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Jones" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:00 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date > > >> I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not >> spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying >> weather after long dreary winter. Some of the best flying weather I >> have experienced has been early Spring. Just a thought. Let's all >> chip in their ideas and see what the consensus is. Mark Jones >> (N886MJ) Wales, WI >> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj >> Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On >> Behalf Of Dan Heath >> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:46 AM >> To: krnet@mylist.net >> Subject: KR> Gathering Date >> >> >> I believe that better weather is available during the month of >> October and over the years have heard many comments about the poor >> weather conditions >> during the month of September. I have now flown to 4 gatherings and >> this >> was the first time that I was able to go to and from the gathering >> without >> incident. However, it was not without great concern as we had just had >> the >> worst hurricane in my lifetime and were being threatened by another one >> that >> is still sitting off the coast. We had to check often each day to be >> sure >> that we would be able to get back home and never knew if we were going >> be >> able to stay for the duration of the gathering. >> >> I do not understand how it can possibly be the general consensus that >> we continue to have this event during one of the worst times of the >> year for >> flying. I have always thought that this should be open for debate but >> it >> has always been dictated and that is something I also do not >> understand. >> >> >> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering >> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics There is a >> time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building >> has expired. >> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC >> -------Original Message------- >> General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September, >> probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone >> interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their input. >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:22:45 -0500 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: RE: KR> Glider Check ride To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-220059112232245921@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Damn Orma, If it weren't for bad luck, you would have no luck at all. Glad that you didn't get hurt or Tweety bent. Take care my friend Joachim > [Original Message] > From: Orma > To: KRnet > Date: 9/12/2005 6:09:05 PM > Subject: KR> Glider Check ride > > Stop the press. Late arriving news flash from Michigan. Informed sources are quoted as saying that at approximately noon on Sunday Orma was given his glider qualifying check ride, joining a select group notables who have proven that under extreme ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:26:19 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> 05 gathering To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <019801c5b7f1$66b35fc0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve Jones wrote: > gettin up & over the soupy hase into sunny blue skies is really nice & > smooth thanks to the turbo. 8500 ft all the way, the first half @150 > mph & the 2nd half @ 165 & 178 mph, a little help from the tailwind > god I did something similar...11,500' at 3300 rpm, at an average of 145 mph. Getting on top really made the trip a breeze, with cool air, blue skies, and a 22 mile glide range. I listened to MVN traffic in the pattern deep into Tennessee, well over 100 miles away. CHT and oil temps were so cool up there I just firewalled it the last half of the trip, and made it under two hours. Although the KR world now knows that my KR is not as nice as they'd thought, and my landing skills are even worse, it sure was nice to avoid that 5 hour car drive! Thanks to Larry and everybody else involved for making it another great KR Gathering. I'll try to get some pictures together for a Gathering website sometime in the next week or two. > by the way, i'm not gettin > kr mail due to a problem called a ( bounce) i'm lost with this? Bounces are described in detail at http://www.krnet.org/info.html . The "confirmation email" that you get from the list even warns that AOL email can be sporadic, if it works at all. The bottom line is that AOL stinks, and if I were stuck using it, I'd use it only to access an email account website that was provided by somebody else! Hotmail is not the most reliable either, as OZ would be quick to testify. Anybody that knows of a free email account that actually works is welcome to post information on it... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:43:22 +0100 From: "phil brookman" Subject: Re: KR> Glider Check ride To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <002701c5b7f3$c2ac39d0$73a51352@philljl2re6t9i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 i secound that p ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joachim Saupe" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:22 AM Subject: RE: KR> Glider Check ride > Damn Orma, > If it weren't for bad luck, you would have no luck at all. Glad that > you didn't get hurt or Tweety bent. Take care my friend > Joachim > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Orma > > To: KRnet > > Date: 9/12/2005 6:09:05 PM > > Subject: KR> Glider Check ride > > > > Stop the press. Late arriving news flash from Michigan. Informed > sources are quoted as saying that at approximately noon on Sunday Orma > was given his glider qualifying check ride, joining a select group > notables who > have proven that under extreme > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: > 10/09/2005 > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 24377 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:42:52 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050912174252.00813810@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have always thought that this should be open for debate but it >has always been dictated and that is something I also do not >understand. >Daniel R. Heath ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dan, I'll keep track of all the feedback I get before we set a date. I'll put you down for October. Do you have a particular date in mind? Larry ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:01:18 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Zinc chromate To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00c801c5b7dd$207e9830$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original The real Zinc is the greatest known Carcinogen known to aviation. Just a thought. Orma ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:02:46 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> sunday home To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00db01c5b7dd$54df4160$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Yes Keith, I did make it home. Thanks for the concern. A full report later. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:03:39 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00de01c5b7dd$749ed970$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original You didn't get any of the prime rib at the gathering, so my guess is that you had Chicken. Orma ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:00:24 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Report To: Message-ID: <43261698.000001.03932@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You did not miss anything! See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- You didn't get any of the prime rib at the gathering, so my guess is that you had Chicken. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:04:09 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date To: Message-ID: <43261779.000003.03932@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I believe that October 15, the second or third weekend in October, would not interfere with Copperstate or the other fly in that people were concerned about. But would people go to both anyway?? Who knows. I just want to give us better odds for having good weather and I think that September has proven itself to be pretty bad odds. See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC -------Original Message------- I'll keep track of all the feedback I get before we set a date. I'll put you down for October. Do you have a particular date in mind? Larry ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:47:24 -0700 (PDT) From: pole shed Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050912224724.88695.qmail@web31102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I agree with Ed. Here in Southern Illinois we sometimes go from winter, into monsoon (and flooding), directly into summer. I have to be on the tractor any time it isnt raining in the spring (and sometimes when it is :-( ) Picking apples will wait a couple of days in the fall, but I can't take off even when sick or injured in the spring. Something else to consider about spring here. We have daffodils for a month before Wisconsin can even see the ground through the snow. My vote is also for late Sept or early October. I can't bring apple cider to the gathering if we have it before we start pressing in mid September. LOL --- Ed Janssen wrote: > A couple of thoughts when considering dates. Early > Spring usually brings > some pretty stiff winds here in central IL. Also, > in late October, it > starts getting dark pretty early in the evening - > 5:00 or so after the time > change. Either the last week in Sept. or the first > week in October would be > my choice. > > Ed > > Ed Janssen Larry Lipe Carbondale,IL MSGT USMC(Ret) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:29:07 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050912.163907.3624.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Early Spring= LAKELAND, Virg On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:00:13 -0500 "Mark Jones" writes: > I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not > spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying > weather after long dreary winter. Some of the best flying weather I > have experienced has been early Spring. Just a thought. Let's all chip > in > their ideas and see what the consensus is. > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Dan Heath > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:46 AM > To: krnet@mylist.net > Subject: KR> Gathering Date > > > I believe that better weather is available during the month of > October > and > over the years have heard many comments about the poor weather > conditions > during the month of September. I have now flown to 4 gatherings > and > this > was the first time that I was able to go to and from the gathering > without > incident. However, it was not without great concern as we had just > had > the > worst hurricane in my lifetime and were being threatened by another > one > that > is still sitting off the coast. We had to check often each day to > be > sure > that we would be able to get back home and never knew if we were > going > be > able to stay for the duration of the gathering. > > I do not understand how it can possibly be the general consensus > that we > continue to have this event during one of the worst times of the > year > for > flying. I have always thought that this should be open for debate > but > it > has always been dictated and that is something I also do not > understand. > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > > has expired. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > -------Original Message------- > General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September, > probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone > interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their > input. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:28:06 -0500 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: Re: KR> Glider Check ride To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006801c5b802$64c73770$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Orma Now I understand why it is so hard to get a muli engine glider rating. I'm so happy to hear your cool head made an event....eventless. Brant Hollensbe DSM ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:38:03 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Report To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001d01c5b803$c8a9a1a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That's right, I ordered Prime Rib but someone named Glidden who was behind me in line somehow managed to fly-by me and grab the last piece of Prime Rib. Oh well.....next year I am first in line... :-) Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Orma" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Report > You didn't get any of the prime rib at the gathering, so my guess is > that you had Chicken. > > Orma > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:45:29 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Gathering Date To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <004c01c5b804$d28775c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" After thinking more on the subject, I vote for the last weekend in September or first weekend in October. Unfortunately we can not please everyone with the date or location. Therefore, we must all do our absolute best to accept the final outcome and plan ahead to schedule your time to be at the Gathering. Whatever is decided upon, I will always make a 110% effort to be there. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:41:19 -0500 From: "Ronald R.Eason" Subject: RE: KR> sunday home To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <20050912184130.SM01016@CADENGINEERING> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Orma, You are the most determined man I think I've met. I think that why you did what you did. Your sheer will got you home and safe. KRron -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Orma Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:03 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> sunday home Yes Keith, I did make it home. Thanks for the concern. A full report later. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:09:56 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Dual Ignition Systems, it Saved My Bacon To: "Corvaircraft" , "KR Net" Message-ID: <005c01c5b808$3d41d1a0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Yes, that is correct. I too have joined the elite group of knowing what a dead engine in flight sounds like. There is no sound and man is that one quiet cockpit when the engine ceases to sing. Yesterday as I was leaving the KR Gathering out of Mt. Vernon, Illinois, my engine hic-upped. I really did not think much of it thinking maybe an air bubble in the fuel line. Well I continued to climb and was at 2300' ASL when all of a sudden things got real quiet. I was not too far away from the airport so I executed a 180° and set up a glide to MVN runway 23 and announced that 6MJ had turned final. Next, flipped the toggle switch to my back up secondary ignition and hit the starter. The engine fired right up and we started climbing. Instead of continuing to land, I decided to keep climbing and circling. After three circles and altitude gained, I determined the problem was strictly electrical and not the engine. I tested the main ignition again and again the engine died but only for a half second as I immediately went back to secondary ignition. Probably not the wisest decision but I decided to head on to my first stop at Pontiac, Illinois which was 149 miles away. I was never out of gliding distance from an airport and made the leg there with no further problems. The haze was terrible and from 15 miles out I began calling my position to PNT traffic. I noticed there were several planes in the area and some calling taxi back on the runway. At five miles out I still could just barely see the airport. As I entered downwind for PNT runway 24, I noticed four planes in the holding area waiting for my arrival. On one mile final, I noticed there were at least two hundred folks sitting around the tarmac watching the runway. Needless to say, I made the worst landing I have ever made in my KR. I bounced two, maybe three times and then swerved back an forth on the runway. This was the one day out of the year they have their local fly-in and I dropped in right in the middle of it. Anyway, I pulled my cowl look for the problem and found that the condenser wire had broken at the coil. A pair of wire strippers and a wrench and two minutes later the problem was fixed. The only problem now was that I had drawn a crowd of pilots and spectators and the questions about the plane and engine started flying. An hour later, I managed to continue my journey which was eventless the rest of the way home. Moral of the story is: Redundancy will save your bacon. Don't fly without it. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 19:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: PATTY GARMAN Subject: KR> RE: THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WELLINGNESS TO HELP To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050913021106.94403.qmail@web35913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I was so disappointed when I wasn't able to come to the gathering after learning my husband was being deployed to New Orleans But when I asked for help in getting some parts that a very kind gentleman had offered me back to me in PA from the gathering I had a flood of responses from so many of you Some even called My husband was right this is a very special group of pilots and I'm glad to be a part of it. My husband is returning in a day or two his plane has some problems that need tending to either way he coming home.. Thank you all for you kind offers and to Ron and Allen that made it happen May all your skys be Blue with calm winds God Bless you all Patti "Ronald R.Eason" wrote: Orma, You are the most determined man I think I've met. I think that why you did what you did. Your sheer will got you home and safe. KRron -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Orma Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:03 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> sunday home Yes Keith, I did make it home. Thanks for the concern. A full report later. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:25:40 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Gathering Date To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005921322540140@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I also go for the last weekend in Sept or first in Oct. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Mark Jones > To: KR Net > Date: 9/12/2005 9:41:57 PM > Subject: KR> Gathering Date > > After thinking more on the subject, I vote for the last weekend in September > or first weekend in October. Unfortunately we can not please everyone > with the date or location. Therefore, we must all do our absolute best > to accept > the final outcome and plan ahead to schedule your time to be at the > Gathering. Whatever is decided upon, I will always make a 110% effort > to be > there. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:33:56 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Glider Check ride To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005921323356921@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Orma Glad that you made it down safely. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Orma > To: KRnet > Date: 9/12/2005 7:09:05 PM > Subject: KR> Glider Check ride > > Stop the press. Late arriving news flash from Michigan. Informed sources are quoted as saying that at approximately noon on Sunday Orma was given his glider qualifying check ride, joining a select group notables who have proven that under extreme pressure that it is possible to fly a powerless KR. > > News reports are now arriving from across Indiana of a strange looking yellow bird flying on the tail of a white gray and red craft was seen pushing a large red van along the highways of Indiana under the cover of darkness. Stand by for an update. > > Reporters at Crawfordville Indiana Airport, the scene of the picture perfect landing of the glider, told this reporter that the pilot seemed rather calm. The pilot stated that he had received advanced gliding advise from local celebrity Mark Langford, himself a well respected > glider pilot. > > During an interview with the shy yellow bird (Tweety), The reporter > asked why the bird decided to become a glider, The bird answered that She was sure that the valves quit moving probably because the cam shift is broken. The cam gave not warning. > > Other info. > Altitude 7500', apx 5 kt tail wind, distance to airport 7 miles, > approach same direction as flight, speed of decent apx 80 to 100mph, Attempts to restart numerous. Prop windmills at 100. Log book entry for powerless flight 0.1 > > Orma > Southfield, MI > KR-2 N110LR 1984 > See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com > See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 358 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================