From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 362 Date: 9/13/2005 5:58:26 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. redundancy (larry flesner) 2. Re: Re: KR> over voltage pain (danrh@alltel.net) 3. Work Bench (Scott William) 4. help (FIXERJONES@aol.com) 5. Re: Like Nascar and Football/Baseball (patrusso) 6. Re: Work Bench (3343V) 7. Re: Re: KR> Work Bench (Steven Phillabaum) 8. Re: Work Bench (patrusso) 9. Re: Re: KR> Work Bench (3343V) 10. Re: Gathering 2005 (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 11. Re: Work Bench (larry flesner) 12. Re: Work Bench (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 13. Re: Work Bench (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 14. KR2 on eBay (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 15. Re: KR2 on eBay (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 16. Re: Work Bench (Allen Wiesner ) 17. PICS Wanted! (Cris.) 18. RE: help (Steve Bray) 19. Re: Work Bench (Joseph H Horton) 20. Re: Gathering Date (M & C) 21. Re: Work Bench (Scott William) 22. Re: Work Bench (Joseph H Horton) 23. unsubscriptions due to bounces (Mark Langford) 24. Re: over voltage pain (Barry Kruyssen) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:03:46 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> redundancy To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050913130346.008a4500@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Originally, I decided for redundancy because I wanted to make the >certification people happy, but thinking of it, redundancy is also an >answer to real life problems in aviation: bad luck, and failure to notice >trouble in the making. >Serge Vidal ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ When it comes to redundancy, we must all weigh the benifits of backup to the penalities of weight, space, complexity, etc. and the consequences of not having the backup. We then determine a risk factor that we agree to accept or not. To some, the act of getting in to an airplane is a greater risk than they are willing to accept. During my building process I decided the penality of weight for a backup system to power my electric fuel pumps in a no-gravity feed system was outweighted by the reduction in the risk factor. That decission saved my bacon at twelve hours into the test flight phase when I lost my main electrical buss to a bad connection. I was able to continue the flight and troubleshoot and repair the problem on the ground. The price I pay on each flight since then for 150+ hours carrying the weight of that system still seems like a bargin to me. I tried to plan ahead to make the safest airplane possible, within reason, and now try to forget about all the "what ifs" when I go out to fly and just try to relax and have a good time. I guess I could worry about the hangar falling in on me during preflight but hey, you gotta' cut it off somewere. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:11:46 -0500 From: Subject: Re: Re: KR> over voltage pain To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050913181146.GQNF29274.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sorry, I forgot to point out where it is. DanRH@AllTel.net It is listed on the web site and you can always get a person's e-mail by using the right mouse button on the name and clicking "properties". From: "phil brookman" Date: 2005/09/13 Tue AM 05:58:33 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: Re: KR> over voltage pain your e mail dan please tosend p ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: KR> over voltage pain > Send it to me and I will post it for you on KRBuilder > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > has expired. > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > -------Original Message------- > > From: phil brookman > Date: 09/13/05 06:22:53 > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> over voltage pain > > no dan > a little circuit that cuts back voltaqge , cos the se regulators will at > some time fail > and when they do if you are not quick in that cockpit ...... > and that is if you have someway of shutting down the alternator otherwise it > can cook battery > and some of other stuff > i have a circuit just trying to figure a way of posting it on here > p > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dan Heath" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:15 AM > Subject: Re: KR> over voltage pain > > > > Are you talking about wiring a circuit breaker into your system??? > > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > > has expired. > > > > Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC > > > > -------Original Message------- > > > > been thinking about some kind of overvoltage protection > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005 > > > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 24377 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005 > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005 > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 24377 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005 _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:28:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott William Subject: KR> Work Bench To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050913182811.91164.qmail@web31514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Goofy question from the newbie: Building calls for a workbench that is 16' x 4'. In opinions of all the builders here, what is the SHORTEST bench one can get by with? If I can lop 2' off this bench and bring it to 14', it will benefit my space situation a great deal. Also...what is the best material for the top pf the bench, in your opinions? Particle board will be the straightest but 3/4 ply will be the most durable....Opinions?? Thanks ladies and gents Scott __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:34:10 EDT From: FIXERJONES@aol.com Subject: KR> help To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <80.2fd56e47.305875a2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" am i back on the list? i've been off the list not by choice since the gathering! A O L screwed up my getting it. steve jones,venice,fl, n212kr ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:40:07 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Like Nascar and Football/Baseball To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000c01c5b892$90946ef0$f0a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hmmmm, I'd second that one ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:04 AM Subject: KR> Like Nascar and Football/Baseball > Not to upset anyone, but I have been thinking for a while that we should > have 2 events a year. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:41:30 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: KR> Work Bench To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <039c01c5b892$c24fe8c0$6900a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Scott William wrote: > Goofy question from the newbie: Building calls for a > workbench that is 16' x 4'. In opinions of all the > builders here, what is the SHORTEST bench one can get > by with? If I can lop 2' off this bench and bring it > to 14', it will benefit my space situation a great > deal. Add 6" to the length of the longest piece you have to build on the table and that's how short you can get away with. I'm going to build 2 identical tables, 8 feet long each, that bolt together end to end with about a dozen carriage bolts. Once I'm done with the table I'll just unbolt it, load it into a truck, and take it to the airport (assuming I can find a hangar by then). > Also...what is the best material for the top pf the > bench, in your opinions? Particle board will be the > straightest but 3/4 ply will be the most > durable....Opinions?? 1" MDF, maybe 2 layers of 3/4" glued and screwed, painted, sealed, and heavily waxed for me. MDF is unbelievably straight and flat, and with the paint and sealer it'll last forever. The wax will keep glue from sticking, but I plan on spraying a few coats of PVA mold release as a backup. -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:51:33 -0400 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: Re: KR> Work Bench To: KRnet Message-ID: <4cin1p$1eako1m@mxip18a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Scott Asked: > > Also...what is the best material for the top pf the > > bench, in your opinions? Particle board will be the > > straightest but 3/4 ply will be the most > > durable....Opinions?? Steve Wrote: > 1" MDF, maybe 2 layers of 3/4" glued and screwed, painted, sealed, and > heavily waxed for me. MDF is unbelievably straight and flat, and with the > paint and sealer it'll last forever. The wax will keep glue from sticking, > but I plan on spraying a few coats of PVA mold release as a backup. Yes that would work, but most of us used the table to draw out the fuselage layout. If you put anything on the MDF you might not be able to read your work. Just remember to protect the table with 3 or 4 mil plastic before glueing up any joints. Good luck building and I look forward to seeing your progress. Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:53:38 -0400 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Work Bench To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003501c5b894$73c729f0$f0a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I think it best to keep the table as long as the fuselage sides How long are the KRS sides? I have the old KR plans, don't recall how long my table was. ...but thought I did a 3'x12' table. Particle board is as durable as you need and it is much cheaper. I remember putting two coats of white paint in mine and then recoating between assemblies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott William" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:28 PM Subject: KR> Work Bench > > > Goofy question from the newbie: Building calls for a > workbench that is 16' x 4'. In opinions of all the > builders here, what is the SHORTEST bench one can get > by with? If I can lop 2' off this bench and bring it > to 14', it will benefit my space situation a great > deal. > > Also...what is the best material for the top pf the > bench, in your opinions? Particle board will be the > straightest but 3/4 ply will be the most > durable....Opinions?? > > Thanks ladies and gents > Scott > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:56:18 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Re: KR> Work Bench To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <03c801c5b894$d62e5b40$6900a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Steven Phillabaum wrote: > > Yes that would work, but most of us used the table to draw out the > fuselage layout. If you put anything on the MDF you might not be able > to read your work. Ahh, didn't think about that. I'll be getting a full size plan plotted as soon as I'm done with the CAD stuff. > Just remember to protect the table with 3 or 4 > mil plastic before glueing up any joints. Good luck building and I > look forward to seeing your progress. Yup, also in the plan. The wax and PVA are just in case the plastic sheet goofs somehow. Hopefully I'll be ready to cut wood around thanksgiving. Too much stuff going on with school and family to spend a bunch of time making drawings. -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:59:44 -0700 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering 2005 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007a01c5b895$4e6a14a0$6401a8c0@BUDDY> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original These KR Gatherings continue to get better and better each year. Cheryl & I have attended the ones in Arkansas, Iowa & Illinois so far. I personally want to thank Bill for the ride in his KR! That was icing on the cake to get a ride in such a fine KR. THANKS BILL!! I didn't take many pictures this year, but those I snapped I've placed a link below to view them. The ones I could identify, I placed their names on. Hope I got them right. Can't believe how long the URL turned out to be. As far as our preference for a gathering date, I know my wife would like it earlier because she works at a Christian School, which is already back to school and she has to take a few days off to go with me. For me, I'm working part-time at Sears in the tool department and if they don't give me the time off, I'll quit. I can always get another part-time job. Bud Midkiff KR2 Stretched Lynnwood, WA email: c.midkiff@verizon.net http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/randkr2/album?.dir=d52d&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: KR> Gathering 2005 > Sorry about the empty letter - here goes... > > > Well, another successful gathering ! I flew 41768 up on Thursday with a > friend on mine (Jerry Howard a KR2 builder) and we arrived at 6:00 pm or > so in >SNIP< Bless you all - Bill _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:07:00 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: KR> Work Bench To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050913140700.008a9dd0@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Goofy question from the newbie: Building calls for a >workbench that is 16' x 4'. In opinions of all the >builders here, what is the SHORTEST bench one can get >by with? If I can lop 2' off this bench and bring it >to 14', it will benefit my space situation a great >deal. >Scott +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Have you considered a 14' bench with a 1 foot add on for each end when needed or a 2' foot extention on one end or a 12' bench with two 2' extentions or, well, you get the idea. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:22:54 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Work Bench To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050913.152913.1584.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Fus length off of plans, and Particle Board, Virg On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:28:11 -0700 (PDT) Scott William writes: > > > Goofy question from the newbie: Building calls for a > workbench that is 16' x 4'. In opinions of all the > builders here, what is the SHORTEST bench one can get > by with? If I can lop 2' off this bench and bring it > to 14', it will benefit my space situation a great > deal. > > Also...what is the best material for the top pf the > bench, in your opinions? Particle board will be the > straightest but 3/4 ply will be the most > durable....Opinions?? > > Thanks ladies and gents > Scott > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:26:59 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Work Bench To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050913.152913.1584.1.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Also...what is the best material for the top pf the > > bench, in your opinions? Particle board will be the > > straightest but 3/4 ply will be the most > > durable....Opinions?? > > 1" MDF, maybe 2 layers of 3/4" glued and screwed, painted, sealed, > and > heavily waxed for me. MDF is unbelievably straight and flat, and > with the > paint and sealer it'll last forever. The wax will keep glue from > sticking, > but I plan on spraying a few coats of PVA mold release as a backup. > -- > Steve > 3343v@swbell.net > N3343V- '75 C150M > N205FT- KR1 #6170 > He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. Put a coat of white paint on it and cut a roll of waxed paper crosswise to keep glue from sticking. Like when you built a model airplane, Virg > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:30:47 -0700 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: KR> KR2 on eBay To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009a01c5b899$a498edc0$6401a8c0@BUDDY> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original If anyone is interested there's a KR2 listed on eBay at $7000 right now and the reserve has been met. It's located in Morris, Illinois. Looks like it's ready to fly. Bud Midkiff Lynnwood, WA ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:32:26 -0700 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 on eBay To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00a601c5b899$dfee9870$6401a8c0@BUDDY> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original oops, forgot to put the item number down. 4574915835 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: KR> KR2 on eBay > If anyone is interested there's a KR2 listed on eBay at $7000 right now > and > the reserve has been met. It's located in Morris, Illinois. Looks like > it's > ready to fly. > > Bud Midkiff > Lynnwood, WA > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:06:14 -0400 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR>Work Bench To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002401c5b89e$992e2950$7be24345@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mine is 14'. Two layers of 5/8", first layer has the seam in the middle (2 x 7'), top has one 8' piece centered with two 3' panels on the ends. On top of that, I have the white coated 1/8"? tempered hard board, seam again in the middle. It all sits on a 10' x 4' x 36" frame which is on casters. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2S3/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:25:10 +0200 From: "Cris." Subject: KR> PICS Wanted! To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone have any picture of his workbench or workshop in general to share? (these 3 months are going to last for years...) Cris. -- Land the airplane, rubber side down, main wheels first. ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:23:51 -0500 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: RE: KR> help To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed To all KRnet'ers I can fix all your AOL problems. My son sent me a invite only Goggle email deal. Its FREE and has so much memory that it doesn't have a delete botton. You can keep everything !! I'm not sellin anything, you can send me an email at rsbray@gmail.com and I'll reply with an invite . I've used it for 8 months with no drawbacks and no adds at all. No popups or any kind of crap, just an offer . Just one KR'er to another. By the way, we all owe Larry a big THANK YOU Larry !! Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: FIXERJONES@aol.com >Reply-To: KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> help >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:34:10 EDT > >am i back on the list? i've been off the list not by choice since the >gathering! A O L screwed up my getting it. steve jones,venice,fl, n212kr >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:23:58 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: Re: KR> Work Bench To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050913.192358.-153403.0.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Scott, I did get by with a 4 x 14 bench and it was not a problem. I also used particle board. It is flat and stable, but be aware that it will not tolerate water or high moisture. Sealing it would most likely cure that problem also. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com Building calls for a > workbench that is 16' x 4'. In opinions of all the > builders here, what is the SHORTEST bench one can get > by with? If I can lop 2' off this bench and bring it > to 14', it will benefit my space situation a great > deal. > > Also...what is the best material for the top pf the > bench, in your opinions? Particle board will be the > straightest but 3/4 ply will be the most > durable....Opinions?? > > Thanks ladies and gents > Scott > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:42:29 -0500 From: "M & C" Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Larry put me down for Oct. I'm all in for cool weather. cooler the better. Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri Swing the prop and light the fire, dance amoung the stars.........N642MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 5:42 PM Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Date > > I'll keep track of all the feedback I get before we set a date. I'll put > you down for October. Do you have a particular date in mind? > > Larry > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott William Subject: Re: KR> Work Bench To: KRnet Message-ID: <20050913234745.31618.qmail@web31504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks for all the suggestion son the bench. As I suspected from my days in my Daddy's cabinet shop, particle board is the way to go for a straight surface. As for water...well, that's why we were always real careful to seal our countertops where it counts, and varnish the part that covers the dishwasher (steam). Now if I can only learn not to build an airplane with a brad nailer..... __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:00:47 -0400 From: Joseph H Horton Subject: Re: KR> Work Bench To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050913.200047.-153403.3.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't give up the brad nailer either. You will find a place to use it and all the tools that you don't know your going to buy yet. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com > > Now if I can only learn not to build an airplane with > a brad nailer..... > > ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:05:50 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> unsubscriptions due to bounces To: "KRnet" , "Corvair engines for homebuilt aircraft" Message-ID: <030e01c5b8c0$11a7d310$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" AOL guys, I see that a lot of you have gotten thrown off of CorvAircraft and KRnet due to AOL's crappy email system. The list has a feature that throws you off after a certain number of undeliverable messages (bounces) in a 48 hour period. The reason it does that is because if ISPs like AOL (it's the worst) get a whole lot of mail that is undeliverable with the same subject and from the same source, it assumes that it's "shotgun spam" that is sent to every conceivable email address, real or not. AOL will then block any email from that domain name (the list), and it's virtually impossible to get it unblocked. For that reason, the email list tries to keep from sending undeliverable mail, so after a few undelivered emails to your account, it says "gee I guess he changed screen names so I'll quit delivering to that address so AOL won't block everybody else's mail". But the real problem is that AOL is so busy (or has insufficient capacity) that it can't process mail fast enough (or something like that) so sometimes it rejects mail as undeliverable because it can't get to it. Then the list throws you off, and you get mad at ME! Sounds like a vicious circle to me. That happened to 25 people today, and a lot more last week, all of them on AOL. To get back on, simply send an email to CorvAircraft-join@mylist.net or to KRnet-join@mylist.net and make sure to reply to the confirmation email message that you'll get a few minutes later. Here's what I'm going to do to try to keep this from happening again. Although the "bounce threshold" is already four times the recommended level (that takes care of most of the flaky ISPs), I'm going to increase it to a factor of 50. This will keep you from getting bounced off (and mad at ME), but it also runs the risk of all AOL users NEVER recieving krnet or CorvAircraft mail if AOL adds mylist.net to their blocked spam list. Sound far-fetched? It's exactly what happened to the last incarnation of KRnet. I'm tired of fooling around with AOL, so maybe this will take care of it, one way or the other... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:52:02 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> over voltage pain To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <015d01c5b8c5$8dcbf7f0$3304070a@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" you can also send them to me and I will put them on a WEB page. I have fitted a POWER MATE regulator to my KR2 as I was getting power spikes ,30V+, from the standard Jabiru regulator. http://powermate.com.au/ Now I get 14.4 vots max but my GPS can only handle 13.5V and shuts down so I have to put a lite regulator after the Power Mate regulator to further control the voltage. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm > From: phil brookman > Date: 09/13/05 06:22:53 > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> over voltage pain > > no dan > a little circuit that cuts back voltaqge , cos the se regulators will at > some time fail > and when they do if you are not quick in that cockpit ...... > and that is if you have someway of shutting down the alternator otherwise it > can cook battery > and some of other stuff > i have a circuit just trying to figure a way of posting it on here > p > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 362 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================