From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 398 Date: 10/8/2005 9:00:27 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Re: KR> Control cables (larry flesner) 2. Re: Florida gang (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 3. Rudder cables (JIM VANCE) 4. Wanted - HAPI Dual Ignition System (Andrew Nicholson) 5. Re: Wanted - HAPI Dual Ignition System (phil brookman) 6. Re: Re: KR> Control cables (Scott Cable) 7. dan jerrys kr2 allmost ready for the yeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa (Flymaca711689@aol.com) 8. Autocad drawing of fuse (wilder_jeff Wilder) 9. Re: Autocad drawing of fuse (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 10. Re: Autocad drawing of fuse (Mark Langford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 07:28:39 -0500 From: larry flesner Subject: Re: Re: KR> Control cables To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20051008072839.00879250@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Turn buckles were how the 3/32nd rudder cables were terminated at the pedals. I also terminated the aft ends on the control horn with turnbuckles ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The rudder cables should only need a turnbuckle on one end to adjust tension. The second turnbuckle is just unnecessary weight. Those half a pound here, half a pound there items, is where 750 pound KRs (like mine) come from. :-) Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 10:10:48 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Florida gang To: brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net,krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051008.101445.3732.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Virg in S W Miami, Virg On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 23:12:24 -0400 "Colin Rainey" writes: > Florida builders/flyers that I know of are: > Myself in Sanford/Orlando area, based at KSFB. > Brian Kraut in Jacksonville Florida based at Craig Airport. Steve > Jones in Venice Florida based at Venice. Dean Cooper in Jacksonville > as well ( I think). And others can check in as they decide to.... > > Engine together, working details now... > > > Colin Rainey > N96TA TD > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 12:30:59 -0500 From: "JIM VANCE" Subject: KR> Rudder cables To: "krnet" Message-ID: <006601c5cc2e$0ece7320$0800a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I found that I needed the rudder pedals as far forward as I could get them, to get enough knee room under the instrument panel. I'm 6'0". I ran a 1/2 x 1/2 aluminum angle vertically in the center of the firewall. I used a piece of 1/4" cold roll steel rod from one outside rudder pedal, through a hole in the angle, and to the opposite outside rudder pedal. When one pedal goes in, the other comes out a similar amount. That permitted a couple of inches more distance than the pulley/cable system that I tried initially. A bow in the rod is the tensioning device. Your results may vary. Jim Vance Vance@ClaflinWildcats.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 16:16:52 -0400 From: "Andrew Nicholson" Subject: KR> Wanted - HAPI Dual Ignition System To: Message-ID: <20051008201716.QMMF26550.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@AndrewN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, Does anyone have a timing unit from a HAPI electronic dual ignition system collecting dust (this is the component that sits in the distributor port). I have a pick up from this unit that has malfunction. Steve from Great Plains has been helpful but unless I can replace the pick ups or find a used replacement I will be forced to replace the entire ignition system. Any info will be appreciated. Regards, Andrew Nicholson ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 21:53:52 +0100 From: "phil brookman" Subject: Re: KR> Wanted - HAPI Dual Ignition System To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005f01c5cc4a$641d3890$73a51352@philljl2re6t9i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 not sure which ign system you have there mine has 2 pick ups -magnetic i think going directly to the coils does your s do the same or does it go to another amplifier the amplifier ign uses hall effect transistors i think the other system uses 2 dyna picknups if you send a picky to me it will help identify them pho@ntlworld.com phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Nicholson" To: Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 9:16 PM Subject: KR> Wanted - HAPI Dual Ignition System > Hi all, > > Does anyone have a timing unit from a HAPI electronic dual ignition > system collecting dust (this is the component that sits in the > distributor port). I > have a pick up from this unit that has malfunction. Steve from Great Plains > has been helpful but unless I can replace the pick ups or find a used > replacement I will be forced to replace the entire ignition system. > > Any info will be appreciated. > > > > Regards, > > Andrew Nicholson > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: 04/10/2005 > > ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 24416 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.10/119 - Release Date: 04/10/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 14:39:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Cable Subject: Re: Re: KR> Control cables To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051008213959.8234.qmail@web53013.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Larry and all, Even though I'm a smaller person, the thought of checking and re-rigging the rudder controls at or before an annual didn't seem to be something that I looked forward to doing. Standing on my head under the instrument panel isn't one of those things that rate on my fun meter. So I made a compromise: weight vs accessability and ease of maintenance. Considering that I had put the rest of my KR on a serious diet, adding a couple of turnbukles for ease of adjustment didn't seem to be a bad way to go. (remember my turtledeck weighed half of the RR part). larry flesner wrote: Turn buckles were how the 3/32nd rudder cables were terminated at the pedals. I also terminated the aft ends on the control horn with turnbuckles ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The rudder cables should only need a turnbuckle on one end to adjust tension. The second turnbuckle is just unnecessary weight. Those half a pound here, half a pound there items, is where 750 pound KRs (like mine) come from. :-) Larry Flesner _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html Scott Cable Jamestown, ND s2cable1@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 21:02:17 EDT From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: KR> dan jerrys kr2 allmost ready for the yeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <66.61024e22.3079c619@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" check out the factory there big day to give big rebel yeeeeeeeeeehaaa is soon . hats off to the job that you have both put in to your aircraft it looks like it going to be real joy to fly and its still pretty stock vw power and all . keep us posted on the big day and yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaa to all you kr flyers builders. billy mcfarland kr2 fly it or thinking about it ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:20:11 -0600 From: "wilder_jeff Wilder" Subject: KR> Autocad drawing of fuse To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Does anyone have an autocad or DFX file of the fuse for a KR2S or KR2SS? I think I am going to give up on the KR2... and rebuld the fuse. I would like to have a template printed off at a local print shop to work from. Thank you, -jeff ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 22:38:50 -0400 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> Autocad drawing of fuse To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051008.224053.3496.11.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Da PLANS---Da PLANS, You have to draw it on the table anyway, Virg On Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:20:11 -0600 "wilder_jeff Wilder" writes: > > Does anyone have an autocad or DFX file of the fuse for a KR2S or > KR2SS? > > I think I am going to give up on the KR2... and rebuld the fuse. I > would > like to have a template printed off at a local print shop to work > from. > > Thank you, > > -jeff > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 22:21:24 -0500 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Autocad drawing of fuse To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000901c5cc80$8799c910$0202a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Virg wrote: > Da PLANS---Da PLANS, You have to draw it on the table anyway, I guess Virg has a point here. There are only about 6 points that really matter in defining the fuselage sides, so it's pretty quick to lay out. The worst part of laying out the sides is the pathetic dimensioning. I have no idea why anybody would use individual dimensions rather than cumulative dimensions. The first thing I did was get the calculator and start adding all the numbers so I could just hang the tape measure on one end and read off each new station with reference to the firewall. Measuring each bay or station individual with respect to the previous one is an invitation to a bad case of tolerance stackup, or worse. It's close enough for KR work, but a pain in the butt, and the reason several folks have discovered their fuselage is either one bay short or one bay long! Other than that, make sure the two spars are the correct distance apart. I drew mine out on the table so I could screw the positioning blocks down that force the upper and lower longerons into shape. That's a great time to make any changes to the plans that you want to make, mainly the overall length or the addtion of a bay. Plots on paper are subject to expansion and contraction with humidity, twisting, or accidental tearing, but lines made from chalk lines (and then reinforced with a Sharpie) and a big drywall T-square (from Home Depot) will stay put for a long time, and will definitely not move. I can still see mine on the my table top... And I'll save Virg the trouble, "build it per the plans!" : ) Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 398 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================