From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 416 Date: 10/18/2005 7:18:39 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Engine Ads (Stephen Teate) 2. RE: starting wars (Mark Jones) 3. Steve Jones (Joachim Saupe) 4. RE: Steve Jones - Obituary (Mark Jones) 5. RE: starting wars (Don Chisholm) 6. RE: Steve Jones (Jack Cooper) 7. Address for Steve's Parents / EAA Number (Mark Jones) 8. Re: Covering material (Robert L. Stone) 9. Re: Covering material (Don Chisholm) 10. Re: Steve Jones (Phil Matheson) 11. Re: Covering material (Dennis Mingear) 12. Re: Covering material (Robert L. Stone) 13. Re: Covering material (Robert L. Stone) 14. New Daylight Pics (Dan Heath) 15. Re: Steve Jones - Obituary (Orma) 16. RE: New Daylight Pics (Joachim Saupe) 17. Re: Steve Jones - Obituary (Joachim Saupe) 18. Re: New Daylight Pics (Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff) 19. RE: Engine Ads (Brian Kraut) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:30:31 -0500 From: "Stephen Teate" Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <98DAC793BA09104DA961CAFAA33C7958080365@ccs-svr1.CCS.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello again everyone, Some very interesting points being made on this discussion. Ask ten folks about engines and you will get fifteen different responses! I fully admit my negativity towards "certified" engines and my appreciation of "alternative engines". However, since I was a general aviation A&P until June of this last year I do feel I am entitled. Now back to engines. The point was made earlier that you shouldn't discount a design just because it is old. This is absolutely true. Automotive power plants are perfect examples of this. If I go out and buy the most inexpensive car today I will get a modern, computer controlled (ignition, timing, fuel ratio), fuel injected, liquid cooled power plant. If I buy the latest "certified" powered aircraft I get two magnetos for an ignition source, no timing control, two manual handles to control fuel/air mixture and if I am lucky enough to be able to afford the fuel injection I will have to go to another manufacturer (GAMI) to get optimum performance. Fortunately, FADEC is coming and it will eventually get here, but until then look to the automotive world for advanced or modern features and if possible, consider incorporating them in your design. Stephen steate@compositecooling.com ---Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Scott William Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:48 AM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads --- Stephen Teate wrote: >> > Hello all! As this is my first post please excuse > any procedural > failings on my part. Let's talk engines. Several > models of Subaru > engines are interference engines. For those who > don't know what that > means, it is where the valve travel and piston > travel overlap. Obviously > a bad thing. Like I said, some models of Subaru > engines are design this > way. Mine is not. It is a 4 cylinder > turbocharged/intercooled > fuel-injected EA-82. Here is a list of the newest powerplants by Subaru.... 1.8 used in Impreza - not interference 3.3 used in SVX - interference 3.0 6cyl in newer OB - interference 2.0 turbo in WRX - interference all 2.5 DOHC and SOHC (96-present) - interference all 2.2 - not interference > As for other engines, if you want to use an air > cooled engine designed > in the 30's and who's parts will require a second > mortgage, or one that > was designed in the late 50's and hasn't been in > production for 35 to 40 > years, That's a really interesting way to introduce yourself....by printing negative propaganda (read: your opinion) about widely used and reliable aircraft engines. The small block chevy came out of the 50's....does this mean that GM shouldn't be using it in cars built now? Reliable design, history of good data.....stop building them? > or use a modern liquid cooled engine with > it's added weight and > perceived complexity, then do it. Bwahahahahahaha!!!! So tell me Stephen, what is "modern" about an EA-82? It was produced in the early eighties (20 years ago) and was a derivative of an engine produced in the early 70's that can trace it's design back to the 60's. The EA-82 was a notorious rod-thrower. Ask anyone who used to own a Subaru Brat with the EA81. > The point is there > are issues with > whatever engine you choose. You are correct, but you did not have to make negative comments about all air-cooled aircraft engines to make your point. As experimental aircraft builders, we will all choose a powerplant that tickles our fancy, some even blazing new trails with powerplants never tried before. But to use the old argument that certified engines are dinosaurs......People will have a hard time taking you seriously. Scott __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:05:24 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> starting wars To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C45AE@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Don Chisholm Sorry Mark Jones, we're brothers with a difference of opinion.no hard feelings? Don and others, Don't be sorry and don't apologize to me or anyone else for that matter. I think you guys who are designing your own aircraft are true pioneers in aviation and not just modifiers. What I tried to imply was that this is a KR community building wood, composite airplanes and that is what the subject should be related to because that is what KR builders and flyers are on this list for. I did not intend to piss anyone off either, just redirect the subject back to KR. Anyway that is just my opinion, but what do I know. I know I am going flying this afternoon and am looking forward to being up in the beautiful clear blue skies and 65° temps we are having here in Wisconsin right now. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:08:01 -0500 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: KR> Steve Jones To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005102181981937@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I just spoke to the funeral home. If you want to send condolences, address it the following way: Farley Funeral Home Steven W. Jones 265 Nokomis Ave. Venice, FL 34285 They will forward all cards to the family. Let me also suggest that after you sign your name, you write "KR family" Joachim Joachim Saupe jsaupe6848@earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:17:31 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Steve Jones - Obituary To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C45AF@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Behalf Of Joachim Saupe >Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:12 PM >To: KRnet >Subject: Re: KR> Steve Jones - Obituary >Is anyone sending a card, e-card or other from the KR community? >Joachim This is what I have proposed we do for Steve. So far only nine people have donated to this which really surprised me. I was also planning on sending a letter to Steve's family letting them know what his KR Family is proposing but I did not want to do that till I knew there would be enough funds to cover the $350 minimum donation to EAA to have him inducted on the Memorial Wall at Oshkosh. Here is the post I made yesterday............ "Steve Jones was an inspiration to the KR Family and I would like to recognize his dedication to the KR and the Corvair engine by honoring him with a memorial on the EAA Memorial Wall in Oshkosh, WI. For those of you unfamiliar with this, here is the link so you can understand what I am talking about: http://www.airventure.org/2005/events/memorial_wall.html A lot of you are new to the KR Family and may not know but I did this with donations from you for Ken Rand a few years ago. This gesture was more than appreciated by the Rand family, as I am sure Steve Jones' family would be honored to know we recognized Steve in such a manner. It is my understanding that Steve has no wife or children which is a blessing in itself, therefore, what better way could we remember Steve than to have his memorial permanently placed in a location he so much loved. If you would like to contribute to the Steve Jones EAA Memorial Fund please do so one of two ways: Send funds using PayPal www.paypal.com account flykr2s@wi.rr.com . (My e-mail address is the PayPal account number). or Mail to: Mark Jones 615 Wexford Circle Wales, WI 53183 The Memorial Wall dedication service will take place during AirVenture 2006. Any amount over the required amount for the Memorial will be donated to the KR Gathering Fund." Thanks, Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:48:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Chisholm Subject: RE: KR> starting wars To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051018194858.39496.qmail@web88008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Touche' Mark Jones wrote:-----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Don Chisholm Sorry Mark Jones, we're brothers with a difference of opinion.no hard feelings? Don and others, Don't be sorry and don't apologize to me or anyone else for that matter. I think you guys who are designing your own aircraft are true pioneers in aviation and not just modifiers. What I tried to imply was that this is a KR community building wood, composite airplanes and that is what the subject should be related to because that is what KR builders and flyers are on this list for. I did not intend to piss anyone off either, just redirect the subject back to KR. Anyway that is just my opinion, but what do I know. I know I am going flying this afternoon and am looking forward to being up in the beautiful clear blue skies and 65° temps we are having here in Wisconsin right now. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:52:19 -0400 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Steve Jones To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-2200510218195219656@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Another way to honor a fellow KR flyer would be a flyover during the grave side service with the family's permission of course and assuming there is a grave side service. If my KR were flying I would not mind flying from NC to FL to honor him in this way. I have seen fly bys at graveside services before with a missing man formation and it seemed to be meaningful to the family of the deceased. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Mark Jones > To: ; KRnet > Date: 10/18/2005 3:12:10 PM > Subject: RE: KR> Steve Jones - Obituary > > >Behalf Of Joachim Saupe > >Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:12 PM > >To: KRnet > >Subject: Re: KR> Steve Jones - Obituary > > > >Is anyone sending a card, e-card or other from the KR community? > >Joachim > > > This is what I have proposed we do for Steve. So far only nine people > have donated to this which really surprised me. I was also planning on > sending a letter to Steve's family letting them know what his KR > Family is proposing but I did not want to do that till I knew there > would be enough funds to cover the $350 minimum donation to EAA to > have him inducted on the Memorial Wall at Oshkosh. Here is the post I > made yesterday............ > > "Steve Jones was an inspiration to the KR Family and I would like to > recognize his dedication to the KR and the Corvair engine by honoring > him with a memorial on the EAA Memorial Wall in Oshkosh, WI. For those > of you unfamiliar with this, here is the link so you can understand > what I am talking about: > http://www.airventure.org/2005/events/memorial_wall.html > A lot of you are new to the KR Family and may not know but I did this > with donations from you for Ken Rand a few years ago. This gesture was > more than appreciated by the Rand family, as I am sure Steve Jones' > family would be honored to know we recognized Steve in such a manner. > It is my understanding that Steve has no wife or children which is a > blessing in itself, therefore, what better way could we remember Steve > than to have his memorial permanently placed in a location he so much > loved. If you would like to contribute to the Steve Jones EAA Memorial > Fund please do so one of two ways: > > Send funds using PayPal www.paypal.com account flykr2s@wi.rr.com . > (My e-mail address is the PayPal account number). > > or Mail to: > > Mark Jones > 615 Wexford Circle > Wales, WI 53183 > > The Memorial Wall dedication service will take place during AirVenture > 2006. > > Any amount over the required amount for the Memorial will be donated > to the KR Gathering Fund." > > Thanks, > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI > Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj > Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:18:24 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Address for Steve's Parents / EAA Number To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" , "CorvAircraft \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F357C45B5@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If anyone has the address for Steve Jones' parents please send it to me as I will send them a card from all of us a s a whole. Also, if anyone knows Steve's EAA number if he was a member please send that to me. I would like to contact EAA and let them know so he can be listed in the Gone West section of the EAA Sport Aviation publication. Thanks, Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:13:11 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Covering material To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002101c5d420$5d04e110$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Ron, If you have the skills to make custom covers for KR Aircraft and want to make some extra bucks I believe there is a market. Every airport I have been to or know about in my area has a waiting list for hanger space. The KR was never designed to be left outside in the weather and removing and replacing the wings to trailer back and forth to and from the airport is not practical. The alternitive is a cover that covers the aircraft completly and I think you could make these and sell them. I hope some of you guys will chime in on this one and prove that I am correct when I say, "There is a market" Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Butterfield" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: KR> Covering material > At 10:32 AM 10/16/05, Don wrote: >>I'm an automotive upholsterer by trade and if you don't mind my 2 >>cents worth my favorite material to use especially for canopy covers >>is a material called Odyssey Soft Touch manufactured by MarChem Coated >>Fabrics.Inc.. What it is is a light weight coated polyester that is >>waterproof and breathable and has a synthetic felt backing so it's not >>prone to chaffing >>plexi or paint and has a 5 year manufacturers guarantee. > > I'm sure there are probably many places to get this, but here is one: > www.sailrite.com > > If you download their pdf catalog, it is on page 72. $18.50/yd (5' > wide) > > > Regards, > RonB > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:15:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Chisholm Subject: Re: KR> Covering material To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051018211551.42416.qmail@web88009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I don't know if Ron is An upholsterer /Canvass guy but I'm the person that suggested the Odyssey Soft Touch And I already have a Pattern for a Stock KR2 Canopy Cover and I'd be interested in patterning up wing covers , turtle deck, tail covers and cowling covers I manufacture seat sets for Smith Aviation SuperCub replica's www.replicap18@execulink,com and am self employed as an Upholsterer and specialize in aircraft related interiors and covers and have at my disposal a stock KR2 And KR2S to pattern from and can probably pattern to make universal covers Ron, If you have the skills to make custom covers for KR Aircraft and want to make some extra bucks I believe there is a market. Every airport I have been to or know about in my area has a waiting list for hanger space. The KR was never designed to be left outside in the weather and removing and replacing the wings to trailer back and forth to and from the airport is not practical. The alternitive is a cover that covers the aircraft completly and I think you could make these and sell them. I hope some of you guys will chime in on this one and prove that I am correct when I say, "There is a market" Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Butterfield" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: KR> Covering material > At 10:32 AM 10/16/05, Don wrote: >>I'm an automotive upholsterer by trade and if you don't mind my 2 >>cents worth my favorite material to use especially for canopy covers >>is a material called Odyssey Soft Touch manufactured by MarChem Coated >>Fabrics.Inc.. What it is is a light weight coated polyester that is >>waterproof and breathable and has a synthetic felt backing so it's not >>prone to chaffing >>plexi or paint and has a 5 year manufacturers guarantee. > > I'm sure there are probably many places to get this, but here is one: > www.sailrite.com > > If you download their pdf catalog, it is on page 72. $18.50/yd (5' > wide) > > > Regards, > RonB > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:59:45 +1000 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Steve Jones To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004f01c5d42a$79e36db0$8ca5443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original To all of our KR friends, I was , like everyone else sadden with the news. I wish to pass on my deepest sympathy to all of Steve's friends. The Net will miss him. Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ http://corvair.vw-engines.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:54:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> Covering material To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051018225427.7472.qmail@web51405.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 You're right Bob, It will take years if ever for me to get a hangar and I agree, removing covers would be better than installing and removing wings. Denny ... --- "Robert L. Stone" wrote: > Hi Ron, > If you have the skills to make custom covers > for KR Aircraft and want > to make some extra bucks I believe there is a > market. Every airport I have > been to or know about in my area has a waiting list > for hanger space. The > KR was never designed to be left outside in the > weather and removing and > replacing the wings to trailer back and forth to and > from the airport is not > practical. The alternitive is a cover that covers > the aircraft completly > and I think you could make these and sell them. I > hope some of you guys > will chime in on this one and prove that I am > correct when I say, "There is > a market" > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Butterfield" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:13 PM > Subject: KR> Covering material > > > > At 10:32 AM 10/16/05, Don wrote: > >>I'm an automotive upholsterer by trade and if you > don't mind my > >>2 cents worth my favorite material to use > especially for canopy covers > >>is a material called Odyssey Soft Touch > manufactured by MarChem Coated > >>Fabrics.Inc.. What it is is a light weight coated > polyester that is > >>waterproof > >>and breathable and has a synthetic felt backing so > it's not prone to > >>chaffing > >>plexi or paint and has a 5 year manufacturers > guarantee. > > > > I'm sure there are probably many places to get > this, but here is one: > > www.sailrite.com > > > > If you download their pdf catalog, it is on page > 72. $18.50/yd (5' wide) > > > > > > Regards, > > RonB > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > GOP = Greed-Oppression-Power. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:18:37 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Covering material To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003701c5d43a$44a8ec00$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original You say in your message in the first sentence, "I don't know if Ron is An upholsterer" and then sign your name as the sender as Ron, Needless to say, who are you????? Anyway what you put out on the net is just about what I was hoping for. I now hope that some of the builders of KR Aircraft who need a way to protect their aircraft will get in touch with you and have a cover made. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Chisholm" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 4:15 PM Subject: Re: KR> Covering material >I don't know if Ron is An upholsterer /Canvass guy but I'm the person >that >suggested > the Odyssey Soft Touch And I already have a Pattern for a Stock KR2 Canopy > Cover > and I'd be interested in patterning up wing covers , turtle deck, tail > covers and cowling covers > I manufacture seat sets for Smith Aviation SuperCub replica's > www.replicap18@execulink,com and am self employed > as an Upholsterer and specialize in aircraft related interiors and covers > and have at my > disposal a stock KR2 And KR2S to pattern from and can probably pattern to > make universal covers Ron > If you have the skills to make custom covers for KR Aircraft and want > to make some extra bucks I believe there is a market. Every airport I > have been to or know about in my area has a waiting list for hanger > space. The KR was never designed to be left outside in the weather and > removing and replacing the wings to trailer back and forth to and from > the airport is not practical. The alternitive is a cover that covers > the aircraft completly and I think you could make these and sell them. > I hope some of you guys will chime in on this one and prove that I am > correct when I say, "There is > a market" > > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx > rstone4@hot.rr.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Butterfield" > To: "KRnet" > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:13 PM > Subject: KR> Covering material > > >> At 10:32 AM 10/16/05, Don wrote: >>>I'm an automotive upholsterer by trade and if you don't mind my 2 >>>cents worth my favorite material to use especially for canopy covers >>>is a material called Odyssey Soft Touch manufactured by MarChem >>>Coated Fabrics.Inc.. What it is is a light weight coated polyester >>>that is waterproof and breathable and has a synthetic felt backing so >>>it's not prone to chaffing >>>plexi or paint and has a 5 year manufacturers guarantee. >> >> I'm sure there are probably many places to get this, but here is one: >> www.sailrite.com >> >> If you download their pdf catalog, it is on page 72. $18.50/yd (5' >> wide) >> >> >> Regards, >> RonB >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:22:10 -0500 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> Covering material To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004d01c5d43a$c3b38140$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Dennis Being the egotistical old bastard I am, I just love it when people agree with me, even when I'm wrong, but this time I am sure I am right. Bob Stone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Mingear" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: Re: KR> Covering material > You're right Bob, It will take years if ever for me to > get a hangar and I agree, removing covers would be > better than installing and removing wings. > > Denny ... > > --- "Robert L. Stone" wrote: > >> Hi Ron, >> If you have the skills to make custom covers >> for KR Aircraft and want >> to make some extra bucks I believe there is a >> market. Every airport I have >> been to or know about in my area has a waiting list >> for hanger space. The >> KR was never designed to be left outside in the >> weather and removing and >> replacing the wings to trailer back and forth to and >> from the airport is not >> practical. The alternitive is a cover that covers >> the aircraft completly >> and I think you could make these and sell them. I >> hope some of you guys >> will chime in on this one and prove that I am >> correct when I say, "There is >> a market" >> >> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx >> rstone4@hot.rr.com >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ron Butterfield" >> To: "KRnet" >> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:13 PM >> Subject: KR> Covering material >> >> >> > At 10:32 AM 10/16/05, Don wrote: >> >>I'm an automotive upholsterer by trade and if you >> don't mind my >> >>2 cents worth my favorite material to use >> especially for canopy covers >> >>is a material called Odyssey Soft Touch >> manufactured by MarChem Coated >> >>Fabrics.Inc.. What it is is a light weight coated >> polyester that is >> >>waterproof >> >>and breathable and has a synthetic felt backing so >> it's not prone to >> >>chaffing >> >>plexi or paint and has a 5 year manufacturers >> guarantee. >> > >> > I'm sure there are probably many places to get >> this, but here is one: >> > www.sailrite.com >> > >> > If you download their pdf catalog, it is on page >> 72. $18.50/yd (5' wide) >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > RonB >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________ >> > Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to >> KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> > please see other KRnet info at >> http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at >> http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > GOP = Greed-Oppression-Power. > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:28:38 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> New Daylight Pics To: Message-ID: <43558526.000003.05056@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Go to http://krbuilder.org/ and click on the big pic for a couple of new pics taken in the daylight. I just could not let her sit out there all day without visiting. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is over. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:55:27 -0400 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Steve Jones - Obituary To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010f01c5d43f$6b642300$0302a8c0@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original About the Obituary and contact information. I copied the following from the Obituary on line. " with a service to follow, at the Triple Diamond Jet Center ( Diamond Jet | 220 Airport Ave. East, Venice, FL 34285 | 941-485-1799 .) at the Venice Municipal Airport. Burial will be in Englewood, Ohio. Farley Funeral Home( Fraley, Ada - Stocker-Farley Funeral Home. (937) 448-2111 ... 400 Union Blvd. Englewood, OH Map.) is in charge" I'm sure that one or both of these locations can help with contact information. I sent Mark J a contribution. Perhaps the Gathering fund could advance some funds to make up any short fall. As for the cause of this tragedy, perhaps health or aircraft malfunction might be factors. It does not seem likely that a pilot at his home base would not be accustomed to the over water takeoff Orma Southfield, MI KR-2 N110LR 1984 See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:01:30 -0500 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: RE: KR> New Daylight Pics To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-2200510319013046@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII So now we know for sure it's a pull-toy!!! Looks great. Joachim > [Original Message] > From: Dan Heath > To: > Date: 18/10/2005 18:28:23 > Subject: KR> New Daylight Pics > > Go to http://krbuilder.org/ and click on the big pic for a couple of new > pics taken in the daylight. I just could not let her sit out there all day > without visiting. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > is over. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:05:17 -0500 From: "Joachim Saupe" Subject: Re: KR> Steve Jones - Obituary To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <410-22005103190517578@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII The funeral home that I contacted earlier today was in Venice, Florida. They confirmed they were handling Steve's funeral. Check the earlier post. Joachim > [Original Message] > From: Orma > To: KRnet > Date: 18/10/2005 18:54:12 > Subject: Re: KR> Steve Jones - Obituary > > About the Obituary and contact information. I copied the following from the > Obituary on line. " with a service to follow, at the Triple Diamond Jet > Center ( Diamond Jet | 220 Airport Ave. East, Venice, FL 34285 | > 941-485-1799 .) at the Venice Municipal Airport. Burial will be in > Englewood, Ohio. Farley Funeral Home( Fraley, Ada - Stocker-Farley Funeral > Home. (937) 448-2111 ... 400 Union Blvd. Englewood, OH Map.) is in charge" > I'm sure that one or both of these locations can help with contact > information. > > I sent Mark J a contribution. Perhaps the Gathering fund could advance some > funds to make up any short fall. > > As for the cause of this tragedy, perhaps health or aircraft malfunction > might be factors. It does not seem likely that a pilot at his home base > would not be accustomed to the over water takeoff > > Orma > Southfield, MI > KR-2 N110LR 1984 > See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com > See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:10:47 -0700 From: "Charles Buddy & Cheryl Midkiff" Subject: Re: KR> New Daylight Pics To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <014c01c5d441$8efdd610$6601a8c0@BUDDY> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Dan, Looks like you picked the right mover. It said Jerr Dan on the side. Bud Lynnwood, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: KR> New Daylight Pics > Go to http://krbuilder.org/ and click on the big pic for a couple of new > pics taken in the daylight. I just could not let her sit out there all day > without visiting. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > is over. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:17:55 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Heck, all internal combustion engines are dinosaurs. Why not just use steam power? My next KR is going to run on a small nuclear reactor and will fly for ten years on one ounce of plutonium. Control of the engine will be with a complex system of fiber optics and lasers. It will be turbocharged, cryogenically cooled with liquid nitrogen, and have a constant speed flux capacitor. In case of an engine failure I will have a large rubber band for back up power, computer wound, of course. I should have it at the next gathering. :-) Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Scott William Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:48 AM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads But to use the old argument that certified engines are dinosaurs......People will have a hard time taking you seriously. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 416 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================