From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 417 Date: 10/18/2005 9:00:22 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Engine Ads (Brant Hollensbe) 2. Re: Engine Ads (Mark Jones) 3. RE: Engine Ads (Brian Kraut) 4. Re: New Daylight Pics (Brian Olson) 5. Re: Engine Ads (Bob Glidden) 6. Engines (Colin Rainey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:23:43 -0500 From: "Brant Hollensbe" Subject: Re: KR> Engine Ads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001a01c5d454$20d9e760$0702a8c0@bruntson> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I had a very similar airplane at the last gathering but its effective stealth feature prevented anyone from noticing it! Brant Hollensbe Des Moines, Ia > Heck, all internal combustion engines are dinosaurs. Why not just use > steam > power? My next KR is going to run on a small nuclear reactor and will fly > for ten years on one ounce of plutonium. Control of the engine will be > with > a complex system of fiber optics and lasers. It will be turbocharged, > cryogenically cooled with liquid nitrogen, and have a constant speed flux > capacitor. In case of an engine failure I will have a large rubber band > for > back up power, computer wound, of course. I should have it at the next > gathering. :-) > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Scott William > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:48 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads > > > But to use the old argument that certified engines are > dinosaurs......People will have a hard time taking you seriously. > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:29:30 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Engine Ads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00d801c5d454$efad98c0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bull HOCKEY !!!! You will never get it to work. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:17 PM Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads > Heck, all internal combustion engines are dinosaurs. Why not just use steam > power? My next KR is going to run on a small nuclear reactor and will > fly for ten years on one ounce of plutonium. Control of the engine > will be with > a complex system of fiber optics and lasers. It will be turbocharged, > cryogenically cooled with liquid nitrogen, and have a constant speed > flux capacitor. In case of an engine failure I will have a large > rubber band for > back up power, computer wound, of course. I should have it at the > next gathering. :-) > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Scott William > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:48 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads > > > But to use the old argument that certified engines are > dinosaurs......People will have a hard time taking you seriously. > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:31:39 -0400 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That is what they told Wilbur and Orville! Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:30 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Engine Ads Bull HOCKEY !!!! You will never get it to work. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:17 PM Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads > Heck, all internal combustion engines are dinosaurs. Why not just use steam > power? My next KR is going to run on a small nuclear reactor and will > fly for ten years on one ounce of plutonium. Control of the engine > will be with > a complex system of fiber optics and lasers. It will be turbocharged, > cryogenically cooled with liquid nitrogen, and have a constant speed > flux capacitor. In case of an engine failure I will have a large > rubber band for > back up power, computer wound, of course. I should have it at the > next gathering. :-) > > Brian Kraut > Engineering Alternatives, Inc. > www.engalt.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On > Behalf Of Scott William > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:48 AM > To: KRnet > Subject: RE: KR> Engine Ads > > > But to use the old argument that certified engines are > dinosaurs......People will have a hard time taking you seriously. > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:21:38 -0400 From: "Brian Olson" Subject: Re: KR> New Daylight Pics To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002b01c5d45c$39c97170$6501a8c0@Arrow> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Fantastic, Dan - a fine looking a/c. Question for you ... in your photos of the canopy construction, you noted that there was some crazing in the Lexan on the frontal portion of the windscreen after a few months. Did you end up replacing that section eventually (and if so, with a different material?) or did you leave it? Your solution with the combination cold-formed Lexan plus the R/R canopy seems like a good approach for increased headroom. Brian Olson Alpharetta, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:28 PM Subject: KR> New Daylight Pics > Go to http://krbuilder.org/ and click on the big pic for a couple of > new pics taken in the daylight. I just could not let her sit out there > all day without visiting. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > is over. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:23:52 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Engine Ads To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003f01c5d45c$88291280$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Brian I got more faith in you then that Jones guy doe's I'll take two of them for my twin engine KR I'm building... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:38:55 -0400 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Engines To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-22005103193385550@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Let me preface MY posts with the statement that they ALL concern use in a KR, not other aircraft. In relation to the Subarus, the units that are in the proper weight category for use in the KR are under powered and do not perform as stated in ads. EA81 and EA 82 as an example. To get the rated hp requires use at an rpm that causes these engines to have a very short life. The new engine that Eggenfellner is now using may be a wonderful innovation, and very reliable, and great for use in an RV something, but are WAY TOO HEAVY for a KR! They fall into the category comparable to O-360 or IO-360 both in weight and power. They DO NOT compare well to use in KRs. KRs and Sonex aircraft require much lighter power plants, with less rated hp. Secondly, a quick check of my posts concerning late model engine usage cautions against using any engine the operator pilot is not intimately familiar with. You have to work on it, troubleshoot it, maybe in the air, and repair it. You better know ALL about it, not from somebody who tells you about it, but REALLY understand it, or else fly with something else. I intend to fly at some point behind modern fuel injection, but I also have over 15 years experience working with auto fuel injection, and will use something I know well. I will not instruct others, nor will I publish my results because I do not hold myself out as an "expert". But I do understand the animal, and know its limitations. If you do not, I suggest you fly with something else. The REAL keys are reliability, ease of maintaining, and sufficient power to provide a margin of safety beyond minimums. Evaluate by looking at specifics of each suggested engine, not generalizations. Not timing chain or TIMING BELT is easy or simple to inspect or change, or you don't have an appreciation of the work required. I cannot tell you how many timing covers I have seen off the engine, with the owner believing nothing is wrong. For starters alot of the timing marks are on the cover. Second the cover was designed to prevent dirt and debris from damaging the belt, HELLO! REALLY study the engines please... Ok, back to my motor mount..... Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 417 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================