From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 43 Date: 1/30/2005 8:58:54 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. KR1 wings (RENOSADLER@aol.com) 2. Re: Dog? (Sean Caranna) 3. Re: KR1 wings (Glasseyegav) 4. Washout (Dan Heath) 5. kr1 wing washout (Don Chisholm) 6. Dimensioned 3-views? (Bubba) 7. Panel lighting (Jack Cooper) 8. RE: Hypothetical question (Brian Kraut) 9. Re: Selling my Kr? (robert glidden) 10. Sam Bailey's KR-1s (Ed Janssen) 11. Re: Panel lighting (Bubba) 12. RE: Panel lighting (Brian Kraut) 13. Re: vw engine manual (Dene Collett (SA)) 14. Re: Selling my Kr? (raybeth123@sbcglobal.net) 15. Question for Mark Lankford (Ron Smith) 16. Re: Sam Bailey's KR-1s (Steven Phillabaum) 17. Re: Question for Mark Lankford (Mark Langford) 18. Jack Cooper, What a bummer, your accident. (Dan Heath) 19. Visiting the Flesners on trip home... (larry flesner) 20. Re: Visiting the Flesners on trip home... (Mark Jones) 21. Re: Hypothetical question (Bubba) 22. Question for Dana Overall O.T. (James R Freeman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:31:13 EST From: RENOSADLER@aol.com Subject: KR> KR1 wings To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" i made wings to RR plans 72 circa and is there to double check the W/O ? I used the tw to hold them. But is there anyway to measure for accuritethey are check the archive nothing to check W/O after youv'e put them togaterg and glassed wing skins. any help would be greatly welcome Bill PS if i have to take them apart can I use same spars thanks again! ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 00:46:38 -0500 From: "Sean Caranna" Subject: KR> Re: Dog? To: Message-ID: <009401c5068f$117d9520$6400a8c0@fservice1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original 1. Faith 2. Country (lets me play with guns and blow stuff up "Infantry") 3. Kids (if I had any) 4. Dogs (never talk back and I always smile when they lick my face) 5. Wife (always talks back, would be very strange if she licked my face) 6. KR-2s (well, it's just a few sticks and dirty corvair parts right now) ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:20:42 +1000 From: "Glasseyegav" Subject: Re: KR> KR1 wings To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000b01c5069c$44a5ab60$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think you need to turn your spell checker on in outlook!!! 3:31 PM Subject: KR> KR1 wings > i made wings to RR plans 72 circa and is > there to > double check the > W/O ? I used the tw to hold them. But is there anyway to measure for > accuritethey are check the archive nothing to check W/O after youv'e > put them > togaterg and glassed wing skins. > any help would be greatly welcome > > Bill > > > > PS if i have to take them apart can I use same spars > > thanks again! > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.2 - Release Date: 28/01/2005 > > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 06:18:16 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Washout To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41FCC278.000001.01724@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: wings to RR plans 72 circa I think that you are asking how to check the washout after the wings are built. If so, I am surprised that you did not find a whole thread on this in the archives. It would have been about 6 months ago. Put in the word washout and click on the start date of January 1, 2004 and the end date of January 1, 2005. You will get 57 hits. Here is a copy of the reply that I gave at that time, however, there are many more that are much more helpful, especially one from Larry Fleshner. Please notice that I changed the subject of this message to Washout. That makes it much easier to find things in the archives. What you are asking really has little to do with KR1 wings specifically, but much more to do with washout. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:54:46 -0500 (EST) From: Don Chisholm Subject: KR> kr1 wing washout To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050130125446.51702.qmail@web88009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii to check your washout you need to draw your 36 inch & 48 inch templates onto a piece of plywood [ 1/4 inch will do] and extend your cord lines as when you cut the patterns out these templates will be slipped over your wing at the 36 inch tip and 48 inch root by leveling the fuselage and with a plumb bob you will be able to determine your washout from the cord lines Don Chisholm ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 07:24:56 -0600 From: "Bubba" Subject: KR> Dimensioned 3-views? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <0c1c01c506cf$18583cc0$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Does anyone have any 3 views, mainly top and side, with dimensions, of a KR2S sitting around? I'm building on in X-Plane just to mess around with it and can't quite get the fuselage to look right. -- Steve mysticz28@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 08:38:26 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: KR> Panel lighting To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <410-220051030133826671@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Jim Weir had a good article in Kit Plane this month about panel lighting using cold cathode lights and el wire. I just ordered some from http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv? Jack Cooper kr2cooper@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:58:56 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Hypothetical question To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think you could easily get the 220 you are after using a 140 HP or so Corvair like Mark L. is using or even a souped up O-200. Build it light and you could be a serious contender for the Pazmany efficiency contest or any other race that will class you with other planes of the same engine size. I suggest getting a copy of Kent Paser's "Speed With Economy" and doing some work on drag cleanup, exhaust mods, etc. As far as filling the fusalage sides, one of my previous KRs had the sides filled and glassed on the inside back to just behind the seat. Probably didn't add more than two pounds and really made a difference in sound and heat insulation. I highly recommend it. The bottom of the fusalage had plywood all the way back to the forward spar and doesn't need anything else except the foam in the void spaces. I wouldn't worry about doing anything under or behind the seat. Here is a snipet from the archives. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On I spoke to Troy just yesterday. He told me his cruise speed is about 185-190 Knots, yes, Knots. He also said he will be at this years gathering. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Stephen Jacobs Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 6:13 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: KR> KR2S Specs - thanks Troy Petteway's KR2 ....massaged 0-200..... His plane will do more than 220 mph Steve Alderman has a similar plane...radical 0-200 engine ... will push 220 mph ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:04:12 -0500 From: "robert glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Selling my Kr? To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <040c01c506ed$b8ea3620$0c00000a@computer2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jack The stiffness will probly be worse today then lastnight,I have broken both my collar bones five on the left one and four on the right one.I'm glad I broke them rather then separate them.The thought of having them reset make me nauseous.Hope all goe's well...Bob > I got my 2000 tears today. While working on the KR I tripped and fell. > Had a trip to the emergency room with a dislocated shoulder. It has > been reset now but still sore. Had a great week working on the KR and > building the cowling and then to end it this way. > > Jack Cooper _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:38:32 -0600 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: KR> Sam Bailey's KR-1s To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004301c506fa$e636d130$7a00a8c0@dad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I happened to stumble on the website of a Kansas air museum which had pictures of two KR-1s. http://www.cityofliberal.com/airmuseum/aircraft/homebuilt/index.html At least one of them I recognized right away as Sam Bailey's. I know he had at least two of them, but unsure whether the other one pictured was his as well. Anyway, most of you recall that he was trying to sell his 2 KR-1s some time ago. Guess he ended up either donating (or maybe loaning?) at least one to the museum. Really, too bad, I think, to see such a great little airplane not being enjoyed by someone other than just to look at. Liability could have been a factor in his decision. Ed Ed Janssen mailto:ejanssen@chipsnet.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:49:08 -0600 From: "Bubba" Subject: Re: KR> Panel lighting To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <0c6601c506fc$62f4e8f0$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jack Cooper wrote: > Jim Weir had a good article in Kit Plane this month about panel > lighting using cold cathode lights and el wire. I just ordered some > from http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv? I'll have to go find that issue. I'm a bit concerned about noise on the radio, though. The inverters most of those setups use are notoriously cheap and throw a ton of RF everywhere. Some of it was to the point that it would mess with computers a few years ago. Hopefully they've improved since then. I'd love to use the stuff. A strip or two of light tape or wire along the underside of the glare shield overhang, countersunk about .060", would light up the panel enough for flying at night. -- Steve mysticz28@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:35:15 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Panel lighting To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Or check out my (insert blatent advertizement here) fiber optic instument lights at www.engalt.com/aviation.htm Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Bubba Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 1:49 PM To: kr2cooper@earthlink.net; KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Panel lighting Jack Cooper wrote: > Jim Weir had a good article in Kit Plane this month about panel > lighting using cold cathode lights and el wire. I just ordered some > from http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv? I'll have to go find that issue. I'm a bit concerned about noise on the radio, though. The inverters most of those setups use are notoriously cheap and throw a ton of RF everywhere. Some of it was to the point that it would mess with computers a few years ago. Hopefully they've improved since then. I'd love to use the stuff. A strip or two of light tape or wire along the underside of the glare shield overhang, countersunk about .060", would light up the panel enough for flying at night. -- Steve mysticz28@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:54:40 +0200 From: "Dene Collett \(SA\)" Subject: Re: KR> vw engine manual To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00e301c5070b$b171ff40$37e5fea9@telkomsa127179> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Andy, as far as I know it is a standard type IV 2.0L. Dene Collett KR2S-RT builder Port Elizabeth South Africa mailto: dene.collett@telkomsa.net P.S: checkout www.whisperaircraft.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Hatting" To: "KRnet" Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: Re: KR> vw engine manual > Don, > My apologies it seems to be a 2100cc engine or close to that. I don't > have the engine with me yet, but will check the engine carefully when > I receive it. > Hey Dene, (Collet - From P.E.) do you perhaps know what engine > was part of the KR2S that we purchased? > Thanks guys. > Andy Hatting > South Africa > > On 27 Jan 2005 at 17:49, Don Chisholm wrote: > > hey Andy; > I'm not sure what your 2.2 engine is. > here in Canada type 3 engines started > as 1700 cc's and ended as 2000cc > type 4 engines used as van & > Porsche 914 engines with 1834cc > engines in these sedans called vw > 411's,Things might be different in > your neck of the woods but if it's > a horizontally opposed aircooled > 4 cylinder vw, it's in that manual. > be interesred to here what the > netters have to say on this one > Great Plains Aircraft Supply Co. > lists the manual > Don Chisholm > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet- > leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:33:31 -0600 From: Subject: Re: KR> Selling my Kr? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c50713$58c00740$4d4c9445@DELL> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Jack Cooper, What a bummer, your accident. I am really sorry for what happened to you. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Keep on keeping on. Get well soon. Ray Goree Arlington, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert glidden" To: ; "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:04 AM ther KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:49:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: KR> Question for Mark Lankford To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050130214929.99598.qmail@web81708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Mark, On your "Frise" ailerons: How did you balance them? It's seems as though they set up perfect for lead wights forward of the hinge. I was imagining lead shot and epoxy poured int a hogged out section of one of those curved foam pieces. I was thinking that would be better aerodynamically that having something hanging down in the slipstream. Ron Smith, Who can't stop wondering how he will be doning things 2 years from now. : ) ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:47:38 +0000 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: KR> Sam Bailey's KR-1s To: KRnet Message-ID: <3k77vr$hevubf@mxip08a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 KR's just don't get no respect. The museum listed the Busby Mustang at 175mph as the fastest homebuilt in the museum, and Sam's KR1 at 185 mph. Just makes me want to finish mine and go show it off. (few more years). Steven Phillabaum Auburn, Alabama Horizontal stabilizer glassed ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:07:19 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Question for Mark Lankford To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001501c50728$d4d7dcd0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron Smith wrote: > How did you balance them? It's seems as though they set up perfect for lead wights forward of the hinge. I was imagining lead shot and epoxy poured int a hogged out section of one of those curved foam pieces.< I used 3/4" diameter thin-wall 4130 tubing (because it's heavy), filled with lead. I went by the tire store and got a box of tire weights, melted some down in an old pot on a hot plate, and filled the tube up with lead.. I then epoxied the tube to the forward most edge of the aileron, running it through the nose ribs and reinforced on the ends with carbon fiber. They run almost full length, except for maybe 8 inches or so. They weigh in the neighborhood of 4 pounds each, but the ailerons are perfectly balanced, evenly distributed, and there's no extra drag incurred. > I was thinking that would be better aerodynamically that having > something hanging down in the slipstream.< Yep, that's why I did it that way, and that's a big reason why I went with Frise ailerons, although now I have hinges hanging down about a half in inch. Mark LanGford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:32:36 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Jack Cooper, What a bummer, your accident. To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41FD7CA4.000001.01872@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jack is OK, he just stopped by here as he was in Columbia for the day. Mark L. and others, in particular, the next person on the list for Marks mold, I have it. Jack was finished with it and brought it to show to me and since the next person told Jack that he was not in a hurray for it, he left it with me. I can probably get you a better deal on shipping anyway as my company lets me use their account to send stuff and it has always been a lot less expensive. Trying to find room for those fuel pumps and all the stuff that goes with them. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:49:05 -0600 From: larry flesner Subject: KR> Visiting the Flesners on trip home... To: KRnet Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20050130204905.00808c60@pop.midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A grateful thank you to Larry Flesner and his wife for putting me (Bill Clapp) up for the night on the way home to Georgia after an extended Christmas vacation. I left out of Valdosta GA on Dec 17 with my eight year old daughter Elaine on the way to New Richmond Wisconsin to spend Christmas with my folks. We took off and headed north in N41768 and got stuck west of Atlanta due to weather. We stopped in Anniston and got fuel and lunch and check out the local FSS and got a live briefing. We headed west to clear the bad stuff and then had clear sky to Effingham IL where we stopped for fuel and the proceeded to Keewanee IL where we landed due to darkness. On landing, while rolling out, the right rudder pedal went to the floor. OOPS!! We skidded off the runway to the left and spun around. We cam e to a stop and my daughter looked at me aand said "At least we are OKAY!" I got out and found the right wheel had broken off in the ground loop but the gear was fine. The cause of the ground loop was the right RR pedal assy. It broke near the weld on the passanger side near the hinge block. I pulled the plane to the FBO and luckily someone was there and we put it in a T-hanger for overnight (35 knot winds - 5 degree below zero) We found a motel for the night - in the morning the local A&P let me darg the plane into a nice heated hanger where I proceded to repair the pedal assy. The tubing RR used was 4130 but it is thin walled.. I repaired the broken section and then reinfored it with a 45 degree tube over the hinge block. I will replace the entire assy later with new thick wall tubing to eliminate any more possibility of another break. After the repair and a thorough inspection and runnup we left Keewanee and flew to Prarie Du Chein Wisconsin where we spent the night again on account of darkeness. We finally flew into New Richmond the following day before lunch. With 50 knot headwinds, darkness and other incidents we had 10.2 hours of tach time from Valdosta to New Richmond. But we did enjoy out time with family and friends. Elaine is back at school now and I am flying home. Hopefully I will have time to visit a couple KR guys. I was hoping to visit with Mark Jones but weather and time was bad for this weeekend. I hope to see him later. If anybody else between Marion IL and Valdosta GA wants a visit...let me know here at Larry Flesners. Ill be here overnight and then be flying home tomorrow. Oh.... New Richmond WI to Marion Il.....3 hours 30 minutes... not bad. I now have 114 hours on N41768 - love the corvair - runs smooth...glad I installed cabin heat... Yall keep building and flying... Sun and Fun is around the corner. If you need a rest stop in Valdosta on the way down - dont hesitate to call (229)834-8996 (cell phone for KR people only please) I can provide food - couch - or room if needed. Corvair people...lots of interesting things are about to come out of William Wynnes....I need to get back to work down there soon.... keep you posted. Fly safe - love your family ---Bill Clapp ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:09:29 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Visiting the Flesners on trip home... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010901c50742$4de64620$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bill, I am glad to hear you are at Larry's safely. I too am sorry we could not hook up this weekend. Today we were having freezing rain and mist mixed with fine snow. Not a good day for flying around here. Good luck on the rest of your journey home. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry flesner" To: "KRnet" Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:49 PM Subject: KR> Visiting the Flesners on trip home... > A grateful thank you to Larry Flesner and his wife for putting me > (Bill > Clapp) up for the night on the way home to Georgia after an extended > Christmas vacation. I left out of Valdosta GA on Dec 17 with my eight year > old daughter Elaine on the way to New Richmond Wisconsin to spend > Christmas with my folks. We took off and headed north in N41768 and > got stuck west of Atlanta due to weather. We stopped in Anniston and > got fuel and lunch and check out the local FSS and got a live > briefing. We headed west to clear the bad stuff and then had clear > sky to Effingham IL where we > stopped for fuel and the proceeded to Keewanee IL where we landed due > to darkness. On landing, while rolling out, the right rudder pedal > went to the floor. OOPS!! We skidded off the runway to the left and > spun around. We cam e to a stop and my daughter looked at me aand said > "At least we are OKAY!" I got out and found the right wheel had > broken off in the ground loop but the gear was fine. The cause of the > ground loop was the right RR pedal assy. It broke near the weld on > the passanger side near the hinge block. I pulled the plane to the > FBO and luckily someone was there and we put it in a T-hanger for > overnight (35 knot winds - 5 degree below zero) We found a motel for > the night - in the morning the local A&P let me darg the plane into a > nice heated hanger where I proceded to repair the pedal assy. The > tubing RR used was 4130 but it is thin walled.. I repaired the broken section and then reinfored it with a 45 degree tube over the hinge > block. I will replace the entire assy later with new thick wall tubing to > eliminate any more possibility of another break. After the repair and > a thorough inspection and runnup we left Keewanee and flew to Prarie > Du Chein > Wisconsin where we spent the night again on account of darkeness. We > finally flew into New Richmond the following day before lunch. With 50 > knot headwinds, darkness and other incidents we had 10.2 hours of tach time > from Valdosta to New Richmond. But we did enjoy out time with family and > friends. Elaine is back at school now and I am flying home. Hopefully I > will have time to visit a couple KR guys. I was hoping to visit with Mark > Jones but weather and time was bad for this weeekend. I hope to see him > later. If anybody else between Marion IL and Valdosta GA wants a > visit...let me know here at Larry Flesners. Ill be here overnight and > then be flying home tomorrow. Oh.... New Richmond WI to Marion Il.....3 > hours 30 minutes... not bad. I now have 114 hours on N41768 - love the > corvair - runs smooth...glad I installed cabin heat... > Yall keep building and flying... Sun and Fun is around the corner. If > you need a rest stop in Valdosta on the way down - dont hesitate to > call (229)834-8996 (cell phone for KR people only please) I can > provide food - couch - or room if needed. Corvair people...lots of > interesting things are > about to come out of William Wynnes....I need to get back to work down > there soon.... keep you posted. > > Fly safe - love your family ---Bill Clapp > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:10:55 -0600 From: "Bubba" Subject: Re: KR> Hypothetical question To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <0d2e01c50742$7c2ee050$0200a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Brian Kraut wrote: > I think you could easily get the 220 you are after using a 140 HP or > so Corvair like Mark L. is using or even a souped up O-200. Build it > light and you could be a serious contender for the Pazmany efficiency > contest or any other race that will class you with other planes of the > same engine size. I'm definately going to try a Corvair before anything else with this one. It seems like a good motor for this plane and I like building engines, but not at Lycoming prices ;) How does the Pazmany contest work? X laps on a given amount of fuel? > I suggest getting a copy of Kent Paser's "Speed With Economy" and > doing some work on drag cleanup, exhaust mods, etc. I'll have to look into getting a copy. I already have the books needed for the structural changes ("Airplane Design" and "Composite Basics"), plus I have a trick up my sleeve. My dad has a degree in aerospace engineering. Right now the problem isn't power or design changes, it's room for a 4' by 15' table and 2 motorcycles in a 1 car garage. The other half of the garage is taken up with my office and the shop area. With some careful shuffling and putting one bike in the house, where it should be anyway, I think it can be done. Just remember, if my wife asks it's just a really, REALLY big RC model ;) Hmm... I wonder if I could get some big servos and... > As far as filling the fusalage sides, one of my previous KRs had the > sides filled and glassed on the inside back to just behind the seat. > Probably didn't add more than two pounds and really made a difference > in sound and heat insulation. I highly recommend it. The bottom of > the fusalage had plywood all the way back to the forward spar and > doesn't need anything else except the foam in the void spaces. I > wouldn't worry about doing anything under or behind the seat. I was thinking more along the lines of replacing the plywood entirely, along with the gussets. I'd bag the whole thing, but I'm concerned about bending the sides in after everything is laid up. That's bound to build in some stress if it's even possible to bend it after it's glassed. I suppose doing the layups, setting up the bag, then bending the sides into a jig before pulling a vacuum and letting it cure may work, though. For the wing skins I'm planning on hotwiring cores and bagging them with glass. I'm not a big fan of carbon for structural parts after watching the carbon fender on my bike crack from nothing more than turbulent air at... well, we won't discuss the speeds involved here. I'm still having trouble visualizing how to handle the canopy frame, but I'll have a few months before it's time for that. -- Steve mysticz28@swbell.net He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:44:52 -0500 From: James R Freeman Subject: KR> Question for Dana Overall O.T. To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <001901c5074f$9bd6bec0$293b74cc@yourgv9eh6ors1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dana: I have bought a V tail (Doctor killer) Bonanaza, in Maine to fly while my KR-2S is in the build mode. I have a lot of time in the model 36 and the Baron. What are the vices of the 35 A? Please help out with comments. The airframe has 4000 hrs as does the power plant and prop. It was ferried from TN to ME last year after a new paint job and on tear down of the top some grazing was found on the lifters and cam. So it is now back in one whole engine but the A&P does not want to do an annual. Remember I will be over You home( which You are never home) and may lose it , which You would not want. Dr. James Freeman 1919 Pig Skin Road Stearns, KY 42647 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 43 ************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================