From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 431 Date: 10/26/2005 9:00:52 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Web Site Host (3343V) 2. Re: Grove gear question (Matthew Elder) 3. RE: Web Site Host (Mark Jones) 4. Off Topic (Terry Teer) 5. Re: Off Topic (danrh@alltel.net) 6. RE: Off Topic (Hauck, John MAJ HHC-37th TRANS) 7. RE: Off Topic (Mark Jones) 8. Re: RE: KR> Off Topic (danrh@alltel.net) 9. Re: RE: KR> Off Topic (3343V) 10. Re:Canopy forming (w.higdon9604@comcast.net) 11. Re: Re:Canopy forming (3343V) 12. Re: Re:Canopy forming (Flymaca711689@aol.com) 13. Flight Report (Mark Jones) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 00:40:34 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: KR> Web Site Host To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <028401c5d9ef$cc0aacf0$0c00a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Kevin Farley wrote: > > Having said all that, Steve asked about asp and aspx services. I'm > sorry to say that I can't offer those as they are limited to Microsoft > servers. I did resell on these for a while, but they were discount > plans and usually were down without real tech support for sometimes > hours, sometimes days. Sorry. There's a rumor of something being done about that. I wasn't paying much attention, but something about an emulator. I'm in the middle of learning VB.Net, which is why I asked. -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 05:02:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Elder Subject: Re: KR> Grove gear question To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051026120244.80091.qmail@web54708.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hrmm... Well something like 40 layers of unidirectional (15 oz) and 12 or so layers of tri-ply woven (22 oz). I don't have my sketch in front of me here at work, so I don't remember for sure. They are an inch think at the mount locations on the spars, and taper down to about .7" at the wheel end. Matt --- Ron Smith wrote: > I forgot to ask. How many layers of fiberglass, uni? > Carbon? eglass? sglass? > > > > Hope you don't mind all the questions :) > ------------------------------------------------- Matthew Elder Orangeburg, SC http://www.infinigral.com/melder My Airplane Project: http://www.infinigral.com/melder/flying/KR1/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 07:12:41 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Web Site Host To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C10251@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I just checked my Netscape free web site and it loaded instantly as well as several other Netscape KR web sites I know of. Just baffles me why sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Go figure but if you want to look at any of these Netscape KR sites better hurry while they are working. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:07:32 -0500 From: "Terry Teer" Subject: KR> Off Topic To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000a01c5da60$85957f90$c9f04fd8@TGSR41610670> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Trying to form some plexiglass rear windows. The windows will be about 11x17 with a slight curve on one edge. What is the best way to form this plexi (1/8 inch). I have heard of forming it in an oven but not sure of the procedure. Will it work the same with lexan? Can someone help or refer me to the proper source? Regards, Terry Teer Ackerman, MS KR-2 (Lands just fine with 3 point) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:16:43 -0500 From: Subject: Re: KR> Off Topic To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051026191643.SHA18995.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Look at krbuilder.org It is not practical to heat form Lexan. You can easily form Acrylic ( PlexiGlas ) in an over over a mold. About 220 degrees will do it. Lay it over a mold of the shape you want with a piece of billiard table qauality felt between it and the mold. After it has assumed the shape, let it cool totally, and then heat it to about 180 for around an hour. You should be good to go. Dan. E-mail me off net at DanRH@Alltel.net if you have any questions. By the way, it think this is ON Topic. From: "Terry Teer" Date: 2005/10/26 Wed PM 02:07:32 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: KR> Off Topic Trying to form some plexiglass rear windows. The windows will be about 11x17 with a slight curve on one edge. What is the best way to form this plexi (1/8 inch). I have heard of forming it in an oven but not sure of the procedure. Will it work the same with lexan? Can someone help or refer me to the proper source? Regards, Terry Teer Ackerman, MS KR-2 (Lands just fine with 3 point) _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:20:44 +0300 From: "Hauck, John MAJ HHC-37th TRANS" Subject: RE: KR> Off Topic To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ALCON: That is exactly the way I did it for a hovercraft I built some years ago; heating up the oven in the kitchen. BTW, I just signed up for this krnet, and it keeps me thinking all the time. Thanks John -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 10:17 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Off Topic Look at krbuilder.org It is not practical to heat form Lexan. You can easily form Acrylic ( PlexiGlas ) in an over over a mold. About 220 degrees will do it. Lay it over a mold of the shape you want with a piece of billiard table qauality felt between it and the mold. After it has assumed the shape, let it cool totally, and then heat it to about 180 for around an hour. You should be good to go. Dan. E-mail me off net at DanRH@Alltel.net if you have any questions. By the way, it think this is ON Topic. From: "Terry Teer" Date: 2005/10/26 Wed PM 02:07:32 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: KR> Off Topic Trying to form some plexiglass rear windows. The windows will be about 11x17 with a slight curve on one edge. What is the best way to form this plexi (1/8 inch). I have heard of forming it in an oven but not sure of the procedure. Will it work the same with lexan? Can someone help or refer me to the proper source? Regards, Terry Teer Ackerman, MS KR-2 (Lands just fine with 3 point) _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:28:27 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Off Topic To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C1025E@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dan, just curious, what does the reheat to 180? for an hour do? When I made my landing light lens, I only heated it once. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:17 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Off Topic Look at krbuilder.org It is not practical to heat form Lexan. You can easily form Acrylic ( PlexiGlas ) in an over over a mold. About 220 degrees will do it. Lay it over a mold of the shape you want with a piece of billiard table qauality felt between it and the mold. After it has assumed the shape, let it cool totally, and then heat it to about 180 for around an hour. You should be good to go. Dan. E-mail me off net at DanRH@Alltel.net if you have any questions. By the way, it think this is ON Topic. From: "Terry Teer" Date: 2005/10/26 Wed PM 02:07:32 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: KR> Off Topic Trying to form some plexiglass rear windows. The windows will be about 11x17 with a slight curve on one edge. What is the best way to form this plexi (1/8 inch). I have heard of forming it in an oven but not sure of the procedure. Will it work the same with lexan? Can someone help or refer me to the proper source? Regards, Terry Teer Ackerman, MS KR-2 (Lands just fine with 3 point) _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:51:07 -0500 From: Subject: Re: RE: KR> Off Topic To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051026195107.CCMD18995.ispmxmta05-srv.alltel.net@[166.102.165.30]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We had issues with the part coming out looking good and then a month later, it would begin to develop cracks. Todd of Todd's Canopies told me that it needed to be re-heated to "cure it" or do they call that "post cure", something like that. So on the 7th and last windshield that I built, I did that and it has not developed any cracks. Dan From: "Mark Jones" Date: 2005/10/26 Wed PM 02:28:27 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: RE: KR> Off Topic Dan, just curious, what does the reheat to 180? for an hour do? When I made my landing light lens, I only heated it once. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj Email: flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of danrh@alltel.net Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:17 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Off Topic Look at krbuilder.org It is not practical to heat form Lexan. You can easily form Acrylic ( PlexiGlas ) in an over over a mold. About 220 degrees will do it. Lay it over a mold of the shape you want with a piece of billiard table qauality felt between it and the mold. After it has assumed the shape, let it cool totally, and then heat it to about 180 for around an hour. You should be good to go. Dan. E-mail me off net at DanRH@Alltel.net if you have any questions. By the way, it think this is ON Topic. From: "Terry Teer" Date: 2005/10/26 Wed PM 02:07:32 CDT To: "KRnet" Subject: KR> Off Topic Trying to form some plexiglass rear windows. The windows will be about 11x17 with a slight curve on one edge. What is the best way to form this plexi (1/8 inch). I have heard of forming it in an oven but not sure of the procedure. Will it work the same with lexan? Can someone help or refer me to the proper source? Regards, Terry Teer Ackerman, MS KR-2 (Lands just fine with 3 point) _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 16:41:36 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: RE: KR> Off Topic To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <032e01c5da76$0abaaf50$0c00a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original danrh@alltel.net wrote: > We had issues with the part coming out looking good and then a month > later, it would begin to develop cracks. Todd of Todd's Canopies told > me that it needed to be re-heated to "cure it" or do they call that > "post cure", something like that. So on the 7th and last windshield > that I built, I did that and it has not developed any > cracks. I've been told it's basically the same idea as tempering hardened steel. -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 22:33:31 +0000 From: w.higdon9604@comcast.net Subject: KR> Re:Canopy forming To: KRnet Message-ID: <102620052233.7128.43600438000A73B200001BD82207300793CBCFC0C702010B090708D299@comcast.net> Dan, I was told it's more of a stress relief step. Bill Higdon > danrh@alltel.net wrote: > > We had issues with the part coming out looking good and then a month > > later, it would begin to develop cracks. Todd of Todd's Canopies > > told me that it needed to be re-heated to "cure it" or do they call > > that "post cure", something like that. So on the 7th and last > > windshield that I built, I did that and it has not developed any > > cracks. > > I've been told it's basically the same idea as tempering hardened > steel. > -- > Steve > 3343v@swbell.net > N3343V- '75 C150M > N205FT- KR1 #6170 > He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:49:59 -0500 From: "3343V" <3343v@swbell.net> Subject: Re: KR> Re:Canopy forming To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <036d01c5da7f$9af64620$0c00a8c0@Katana> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original w.higdon9604@comcast.net wrote: > Dan, > I was told it's more of a stress relief step. That's basically what tempering does. Relieves internal stress and makes it less brittle. I've thermoformed a little plastic in my life, usually Kydex, and I've decided I'd rather leave it to someone else and stick to wood, foam, and glass myself ;) -- Steve 3343v@swbell.net N3343V- '75 C150M N205FT- KR1 #6170 He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:13:11 EDT From: Flymaca711689@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> Re:Canopy forming To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20c.cbcb92e.309183a7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:27:13 -0500 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Flight Report To: "KR Net" Message-ID: <003d01c5da95$8fdf8560$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Went to the airport today after work. Fueled the plane, preflighted her and got airborne at 5pm. The flight was just a basic local lazy type of flight with long slow turns and never getting above 3500' and I stayed within about 10 miles of the airport. I was just truly enjoying the view of the beautiful trees below which happen to be in their full fall colors right now. What a sight to behold!!!. At about 40 minutes into the flight, I noticed the engine began running a little rough so I changed rpm settings and that did not seem to help. I noticed the rpm begin to slowly drop. Hmmmm, could this be carb ice? I applied carb heat and about thirty seconds later she started running smooth again. The temp outside was 43° with a dew point of 39° and relative humidity of 87%. Now that adds up to carb ice potential. I fly with an Ellison EFS-3A. The rest of the flight was uneventful and was after the sun set. I greased in a night landing for my log books. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 431 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================