From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 460 Date: 11/13/2005 9:00:50 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Final W & B Done (Dan Heath) 2. Re: Check list usage (Dan Heath) 3. Corvair Engine parts (Scott William) 4. re: Fuel pump backup ( rparker ) 5. Re: AS504x airfoil (Mark Langford) 6. Re: re: Fuel pump backup (Jim) 7. Re: AS504x airfoil (Jim) 8. Re: re: Fuel pump backup (patrusso) 9. Re: Final W & B Done (paulwasp@webtv.net) 10. control arms (Martha Crawford) 11. Re: Check list usage (Robert Morrissey) 12. Re: AS504x airfoil (Ron Smith) 13. Re:AS504x airfoil (Allen Wiesner ) 14. Re: control arms (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 15. Re: re: Fuel pump backup (TNCOMPRESSORMAN@aol.com) 16. Checklists (Colin Rainey) 17. Re: Check list usage (Jerry Mahurin) 18. Re: control arms (Steven Phillabaum) 19. RE: Checklists (Steve Bray) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:12:09 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Final W & B Done To: Message-ID: <43771179.000019.03636@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No, this was the last thing that we had to do, to be able to send the paperwork to the inspector. I will be doing that on Monday, with the hope of having the inspection on Saturday. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- From: M & C Date: 11/12/05 22:39:44 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Final W & B Done Have you guys been signed off for flight yet? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:24:49 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Check list usage To: Message-ID: <43771471.00001B.03636@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: DON"T FLY DIFFERENTLY just because you are in your plane, or no one is with you to critique you, or your confidence says you know the plane well. I hope everyone is paying attention. One of the reasons that I decided to sell my first KR was because I was making mistakes that would have ended up costing me my life. The reason for making these mistakes was due to my familiarity with the aircraft. I knew that I should be following procedure, but I knew the plane so well that I kept skipping them. I am speaking of the checklists. I did not use any. You say that is dumb, well it is. It is also not a good reason for selling your plane, but it is a good reason for an attitude adjustment. I feel very fortunate to have a partner like Jerry, because I know that he will keep me in line, as I will him. This time, I not only owe it to myself and my family I owe it to him also. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 04:19:38 -0800 (PST) From: Scott William Subject: KR> Corvair Engine parts To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051113121939.46003.qmail@web31507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just a heads up..... SOme WIlliam Wynne Corvair parts on Ebay at a reasonable price.... Item numbers: 8013225795 and 8013227571 I'm a little short on cash at the moment, but it appears to be a great buy. Scott __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:42:36 -0500 From: " rparker " Subject: KR> re: Fuel pump backup To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051113124236.6929.qmail@server278.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sounds like automating your back up fuel pump would be a good idea. Their are a few different methods I can think of to do this. Monitoring your fuel pressure with a pressure switch which can then activate an annunciator light as well as the back up pump or measuing the current to the main pump, to do the same. Rich Parker Peterbrough NH New garage is almost complete so I guess I can get back to building. :-) [LINK: http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/] http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:19:32 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> AS504x airfoil To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <066a01c5e854$e2bd97a0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" aerobeale wrote: > Thanks the diagonal pieces I m taking about are the 5/8 X 5/8 fore and > aft of the spar slots. Ive know the two on top load carring wouldnt be installed > untill spar compleation and installed the airfoil Im wanting to use is > the AS5048 That's what I was talking about when I said "...basically point the diagonals to the top of the spar, in a manner similar to what the plans show, but adjusted somewhat to reflect the increased height of the AS5048 spar height." Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 08:45:32 -0600 From: "Jim" Subject: Re: KR> re: Fuel pump backup To: "rparker" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c5e860$e64bd100$83306644@D7WNCM71> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original How abuot adding a small header tank to supply gravity pressure all the time.the less moving parts the better. aerobeale bye ----- Original Message ----- From: "rparker" To: Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 6:42 AM Subject: KR> re: Fuel pump backup > Sounds like automating your back up fuel pump would be a good idea. > > Their are a few different methods I can think of to do this. > Monitoring your fuel pressure with a pressure switch which can then > activate an annunciator light as well as the back up pump or measuing > the current to the main pump, to do the same. > > Rich Parker > > Peterbrough NH > > New garage is almost complete so I guess I can get back to building. > :-) > > [LINK: http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/] > http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:05:25 -0600 From: "Jim" Subject: Re: KR> AS504x airfoil To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001b01c5e863$ad57b5a0$83306644@D7WNCM71> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thank you The computer is brand new however we have been having a few little gliches with it and this maybe one of them weve stumped Dell a couple of times. I know we must have some real problems because even my kids can get that to make a readable print . Sure would apperiate a disc since this thing wont get me what I need. Ill send it right back to you when I gleen the infomation off Thank you Jim Beale 3015 W Bluebird Wichita Ks 67204 Thanks again ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Driscoll" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:48 PM Subject: Re: KR> AS504x airfoil > Jim wrote: Downloaded wing airfoils and took to Kinko's. Could not > read > them. > > Jim, > try to put them on a disk and then open the disk on your computer. > If > you enlarge the picture on your computer and can read the print in any > area, then the problem is with Kinko's. If you can't read them, you have a > problem with your program. Let me know and I'll send you a disk that I > used. > > Pat Driscoll > Saint Paul, MN > patrick36@usfamily.net > LIFE MAY NOT BE THE PARTY WE HOPED FOR.... > BUT WHILE WE ARE HERE WE MIGHT AS WELL DANCE!" > > > > > > > --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- > http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! --- > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:43:18 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> re: Fuel pump backup To: "rparker" , "KRnet" Message-ID: <001101c5e871$59f082d0$57a772d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Rich am occasionaly in Peterborough to visit aunt in law Joan Brewster on Cheney Ave. How far along is your project? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "rparker" To: Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: KR> re: Fuel pump backup > Sounds like automating your back up fuel pump would be a good idea. > > Their are a few different methods I can think of to do this. > Monitoring your fuel pressure with a pressure switch which can then > activate an annunciator light as well as the back up pump or measuing > the current to the main pump, to do the same. > > Rich Parker > > Peterbrough NH > > New garage is almost complete so I guess I can get back to building. > :-) > > [LINK: http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com/] > http://theparkers.wwhotspots.com > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:08:07 -0500 From: paulwasp@webtv.net Subject: Re: KR> Final W & B Done To: krnet@mylist.net (KRnet) Message-ID: <29942-437772F7-4919@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Netters; Has anybody ever weighed the nose gear? That accounts for most of the extra weight, in my opinion. Or is it supposed to weigh 520# with it? Just wondering..... Paul Erie PA ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:29:26 -0500 From: Martha Crawford Subject: KR> control arms To: KRnet Message-ID: <9EE9A33C-6CB7-4365-8478-DA8A3BB80C34@simerson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed hi all I am making hinges and control arms today I am looking for the length of the control arm on the elevator or the distance from hole to hole to give me the correct pole pole action keith crawford ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:40:47 -0500 From: "Robert Morrissey" Subject: Re: KR> Check list usage To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000d01c5e881$c379ece0$6402a8c0@com.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Colin, You hit this issue right on. I have read of the destruction of military airplanes and pilots from the "small error" of having the check list walk-around being interrupted by some other activity. When the walk-around was resumed it started further down the list. The steps left out came back to bite the pilots in the a__. Murphy is waiting to get us in missed details. Bob Morrissey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Rainey" To: Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:20 PM Subject: KR> Check list usage > I went to the Corvair College on Friday and met with Jack Cooper, Mark Langford, Bill Clapp, his friend (sorry forgot the name), and later saw Bob Lester who is doing much better, though in his words alittle shorter, Glenda McElwee, and the hangar gang. While there I talked to alot of prospective builders about the assembly, and merits of some of the new design features compared to older stuff, and had several discussions about flying and flight skills, specifically concerning the KR. Here are some thoughts, prompted by Mark Jones' post of his flight: > > First off, I have posted a 2 simple checklists, one for "normal" > flight, and one for emergency flight, on Dan Heath's web page. If you don't use them, make some of your own, but PLEASE use ONE! It is a proven fact that our mental capacity deteriorates rapidly with the stress of something going wrong. Checklists are so that you can focus on just flying the plane and not have to rely on memory for troubleshooting, or proper response to a given problem. Laminate them, and keep them IN THE PLANE at all times. It is regulatory for certified planes to have their operating manual in the aircraft during each flight. Part of your preflight includes checking for this manual and the airworthiness certificate, and registration. > > Second, once you have the checklists, get in your plane and practice > using them, ON THE GROUND. We in teaching call it chair flying. Pretend you are going out to fly and rehearse EVERY procedure, no matter how well you know it. You will check the accuracy of your checklists, and you will begin developing a routine that will save your life. If you find that something has been omitted from your emergency or normal checklist, then don't fly until you correct your checklist. The Private Pilot Practical Test Standard has a section right in the beginning that discusses how the test is to be conducted, and one thing it mentions specifically is checklist usage. Not using a checklist to confirm that the pilot has performed the procedure correctly is grounds for a Notice of Dissatisfaction from the Examiner. Knowing this, I KNOW all the KR drivers out there had instruction in checklist usage, and its importance. DON"T FLY DIFFERENTLY just because you are in your plane, or no one is with you to critique you, or your confidence says you know the plane well. 2 commercial pilots with combined airline experience of over 20,000 hours died from running OUT OF FUEL, because neither checked the wing tanks, and assumed that maintenance had filled them up before returning the plane. Lots of experience does not mean correct procedures are being followed. > > Do this BEFORE flying and you will be able to relax while in the air, because you know that your habits and procedures will guide you through anything you are confronted with.... > > > Colin Rainey > brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net > EarthLink Revolves Around You. _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:02:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> AS504x airfoil To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051113190223.61743.qmail@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Jim wrote: Thank you The computer is brand new however we have been having a few little gliches with it and this maybe one of them weve stumped Dell a couple of times. I know we must have some real problems because even my kids can get that to make a readable print . Sure would apperiate a disc since this thing wont get me what I need. Ill send it right back to you when I gleen the infomation off Thank you Jim Beale 3015 W Bluebird Wichita Ks 67204 Hey Jim, I had the same problem with the disc that I downloaded. The solution for me was this: I had Kinkos on their computer go to Marks site and download the program. It worked and they were able to then print the airfoils on their 36" printer. Once you get them, theose templates are very well done and and make everything so much easier. Good luck. Ron Smith Kr2ssxl Cypress Ca U.S.A. mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:00:50 -0500 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re:KR>AS504x airfoil To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002a01c5e88c$f35f1f10$7d11da42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Jim wrote: >Thank you The computer is brand new however we have been having a few >little gliches with it and this maybe one of them weve stumped Dell a couple >of times. >Hey Jim, >I had the same problem with the disc that I downloaded. The solution >for me was this: My problem was the opposite, I was able to read the downloaded disc, but when I took it to my local print man (he had made me full sized fuselage drawings) he was unable to get it to run on two different plotter/printers. After he lost the disc, I downloaded a second from Mark. L's site and took it to the local Kinko's. It took them a couple of tries to get the settings right, but they were able to give me a full-scale print within 30 minutes. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:39:05 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: Re: KR> control arms To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051113152906.03ad95b0@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >I am making hinges and control arms today >I am looking for the length of the control arm on the elevator or the >distance from hole to hole to give me the correct pole pole action >keith crawford ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Keith, I took a quick look at the plans and didn't find the template for the control horn. The stick assembly calls for 5" center to center where the elevator cables attach. Unless you get a better answer, that's the spacing I'd go with. I got in my KR fix for the day. 1.4 hours, 4 landings at different locations with one landing at a nice grass strip. I had to do the third go-around in my KR career when landing for the last time at my home base. The front had moved through and the wind was 7 to 12 at 45 degrees to the runway with occ gust to maybe 15. I was just ready to touch down in the flare when a gust caught me and put me about 4 feet back in the air. Without hesitating I went to full power, dumped the speed brake and carb heat and went around. I probably could have continued the landing but didn't want to run out of runway. The second landing had little thrill to it and the KR is safely back in the hangar. One good day in the KR is worth the 13 years of building!!!!! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:11:19 EST From: TNCOMPRESSORMAN@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> re: Fuel pump backup To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <244.10e7a61.30a93027@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 11/13/2005 9:46:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, aerobeale@cox.net writes: > Sounds like automating your back up fuel pump would be a good idea. > > > >Their are a few different methods I can think of to do this. > >Monitoring your fuel pressure with a pressure switch which can then > >activate an annunciator light as well as the back up pump or measuing > >the current to the main pump, to do the same. > I have never flown anything that has only electric pumps, but wouldn't it be best to use one as primary and the other just like a boost pump on an aircraft with a mechanical fuel pump. i.e. 2nd pump on for take off and landing and anytime under 1000 ft agl. Just my 2 cents worth Best Regards, Riley Collins Rutledge, TN KR2-SS Lycoming ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:24:43 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Checklists To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-220051111402443432@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hey Gang Here is the link to my checklists on Dan's site: > http://krbuilder.org/WeightAndBalance/W&B_Documents.html > > It is under "Documents and Lists" off the home page menu selection > drop down list. I am glad you asked because the emergency list was > pointing to the wrong place. The "Normal Checklist" was still showing > the right one. Should take you right to them. Feel free to add or delete items as necessary to customize them for your particular plane. Then go flying in your "chair". Have a place nearby inside the plane where they will always be in easy reach during flight, preferably without looking for them. Also, I would get acquainted well enough with my plane, if I were new pilots or old, so that most all items can be activated, or used by feel. This allows for just a quick glance to verify you are touching what you want, and then back outside. If you have to look long or stare inside to find and use the item, you are inside the cockpit WAY too long. 5-10 seconds inside then 25-30 seconds outside, and back, and so on... The only time you should stay inside is when you are flying IFR, and I don't think we have any IFR KR's yet (maybe the KR360). Passed the ATP written, now to complete the plane engine swap... Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:32:12 -0500 From: Jerry Mahurin Subject: Re: KR> Check list usage To: KRnet Message-ID: <3812d7480511131632v74ba2495p8bc852471ef41be3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 .........yep; Dan STAYS on my case about checklist.........and I STAY on him about checklists....... We have too much to risk not using them. And I would hate to see anything happen to Dan 'cause I didn't remind him.......... Keep on keeping on (checklisting....), On 11/13/05, Dan Heath wrote: > > RE: DON"T FLY DIFFERENTLY just because you are in your plane, or no > one is with you to critique you, or your confidence says you know the > plane well. > > > > I hope everyone is paying attention. One of the reasons that I decided > to sell my first KR was because I was making mistakes that would have > ended up costing me my life. The reason for making these mistakes was > due to my familiarity with the aircraft. I knew that I should be > following procedure, > but I knew the plane so well that I kept skipping them. I am speaking of > the > checklists. I did not use any. > > You say that is dumb, well it is. It is also not a good reason for > selling your plane, but it is a good reason for an attitude > adjustment. I feel very fortunate to have a partner like Jerry, > because I know that he will keep me > in line, as I will him. This time, I not only owe it to myself and my > family > I owe it to him also. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building is OVER. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- Jerry Mahurin - aka - KRJerry Lugoff, SC 29078 ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:42:47 -0500 From: Steven Phillabaum Subject: Re: KR> control arms To: KRnet Message-ID: <4enh25$1l0vuf9@mxip13a.cluster1.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Keith, The plans I purchased from Rand Robinson came with a book of instructions. Included in the instructions were pages of scaled drawings of most metal parts to be made. Maybe you didn't get the book. You might want to purchase it from Rand Robinson. > > From: Martha Crawford > Date: 2005/11/13 Sun PM 01:29:26 EST > To: KRnet > Subject: KR> control arms > > hi all > > I am making hinges and control arms today > I am looking for the length of the control arm on the elevator or the > distance from hole to hole to give me the correct pole pole > action > > keith crawford > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > Steven Phillabaum KR2S; 5048; corvair; Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:08:21 -0600 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: RE: KR> Checklists To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Colin Is an ATP what once was an ATR? Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Colin Rainey" >Reply-To: brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net, KRnet >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Checklists >Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 19:24:43 -0500 > >Hey Gang >Here is the link to my checklists on Dan's site: > > http://krbuilder.org/WeightAndBalance/W&B_Documents.html > > > > It is under "Documents and Lists" off the home page menu selection > > drop down list. I am glad you asked because the emergency list was > > pointing >to > > the wrong place. The "Normal Checklist" was still showing the right > > one. > >Should take you right to them. Feel free to add or delete items as >necessary to customize them for your particular plane. Then go flying in >your "chair". Have a place nearby inside the plane where they will always >be in easy reach during flight, preferably without looking for them. Also, >I would get acquainted well enough with my plane, if I were new pilots or >old, so that most all items can be activated, or used by feel. This allows >for just a quick glance to verify you are touching what you want, and then >back outside. If you have to look long or stare inside to find and use the >item, you are inside the cockpit WAY too long. 5-10 seconds inside then >25-30 seconds outside, and back, and so on... >The only time you should stay inside is when you are flying IFR, and I >don't think we have any IFR KR's yet (maybe the KR360). > >Passed the ATP written, now to complete the plane engine swap... > >Colin Rainey >brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net >EarthLink Revolves Around You. _______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 460 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================