From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 461 Date: 11/14/2005 7:38:39 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: re: Fuel pump backup (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 2. Mark Jones' picture (Ed Janssen) 3. Buy a Bubble (Jerry Mahurin) 4. Mark Jones (Ron Smith) 5. RE: Mark Jones (Mark Jones) 6. RE: Check list usage (Jack Cooper) 7. (no subject) (arnold d seligman) 8. KR2 wing removal (Peter Diffey) 9. Re: KR2 wing removal (Barry Kruyssen) 10. A question on landing attitude (Peter Diffey) 11. Re: KR2 wing removal (JAMES FERRIS) 12. Checklists (Peter Diffey) 13. Re: KR2 wing removal (Ed Janssen) 14. Re: KR2 wing removal (Robert L. Stone) 15. Re: KR2 wing removal (Dennis Mingear) 16. Re: A question on landing attitude (Dan Heath) 17. Re: KR2 wing removal (Dan Heath) 18. Making wing gap cover, attach brackets (Dan Heath) 19. Re: KR2 wing removal (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 20. Re: A question on landing attitude (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 21. Re: Civil unrest in France (isaac milton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 06:26:06 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: Re: KR> re: Fuel pump backup To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051114061603.036d8e18@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >I have never flown anything that has only electric pumps, but wouldn't >it be best to use one as primary and the other just like a boost pump >on an aircraft with a mechanical fuel pump. i.e. 2nd pump on for take >off and landing and anytime under 1000 ft agl. Just my 2 cents worth >Riley Collins ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yes. Or as mine is set up, I can use either pump as primary and usually try to alternate which one I use on a flight so as not to always use the same one. I also have a backup power source to run my pumps in case of main electrical buss failure. A single flip of the a switch on a little red emergency panel and my pumps are back on line. You can see them at: http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929271.jpg I do a functional check of the backup system before every engine start. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 07:32:09 -0600 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: KR> Mark Jones' picture To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001301c5e91f$d20b6fb0$c000a8c0@dad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Wicks Aircraft has what appears to be a nice earlier picture of Mark Jones' and his KR2S on its website. As most know, also a picture on the front cover of their catalog. http://www.wicksaircraft.com/Wicks/Pages/Projects/Happy_Customers/Mark_Jones_Project.php Ed Ed Janssen mailto:ejanssen@chipsnet.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 10:59:11 -0500 From: Jerry Mahurin Subject: KR> Buy a Bubble To: KRnet Message-ID: <3812d7480511140759x3551c524qdabb8ce2d2644535@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bill, My first suggestion is to join the KRNet. The 'joining' URL is krnet-join@mylist.net . You might browse thru it first at krnet@mylist.net. You can get lots help from there, with a lot of garbage also. It will be up to you to filter out what you may want to use. If I were to start the canopy tomorrow, I would go with a canopy from Todd's Canopies and probably a swing forward opening. But that is just my preference from my experiences. Join the net.............. Keep on keeping on, On 11/14/05, The Walton's wrote: > > Hi Jerry, > I purchased a KR2 recently about 70% done. There were no plans nor > logs (lost when the original builder passed away). I have an EAA Tech > Counselor coming soon to help me get on focus and direct me. I find > your site very informative and inspiring, so when I read the subject > listed above, I had to ask you. Do you have any idea what it is going > to take to put glass on my plane. I have a fuel tank in my fore turtle > deck which has a windscreen attached to it now. The aft turtle deck is > done, so my challenge is to somehow marry the two with a canopy. > Any ideas? > Thank you, and keep up the great work. > Respectfully, > Bill Walton > -- Jerry Mahurin - aka - KRJerry Lugoff, SC 29078 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:18:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: KR> Mark Jones To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051114171854.52635.qmail@web81712.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Nice job on your new website! I really missed being able to easily view the photos of your project. For me it is very important to veiw other peoples projects to help me get my mind wrapped around what I'm doing and will do next. Thanks, --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:38:14 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Mark Jones To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C1032E@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Ron, It sure is nice to have a working web site. Well worth the small fee to have a good host. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ron Smith Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:19 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Mark Jones Nice job on your new website! I really missed being able to easily view the photos of your project. For me it is very important to veiw other peoples projects to help me get my mind wrapped around what I'm doing and will do next. Thanks, --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 14:16:20 -0500 From: "Jack Cooper" Subject: RE: KR> Check list usage To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <410-2200511114191620156@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I agree with Colin on the checklist but would like to add some military experience. As an instructor pilot in the Army, one thing we were taught and ask on every evaluation after becoming an IP was,"What is the normal reaction to an emergency?" The answer is "to act quickly and accurately within the limits of training." Irrational actions such as panic may require further evaluation and/or training. With this said, how you react to an emergency will reflect your training and preparedness. In many emergency situations you will not have time to reach for and read a checklist so you should memorize certain steps for engine failure or control lockup, open canopy, or anything you can think of that require immediate action. In military checklist immediate action steps were in bold print and had to be committed to memory. The first priority in any emergency is to maintain aircraft control. I like Mark Langfords approach to engine out emergency, flip one switch and this eliminates most problems associated with ignition and fuel so if this doesn't eliminate the problem, get ready to land.One quick war story. I was in the front seat of a Cobra Helicopter on a beautiful spring day. The Captain in the back seat was on the controls hovering over trees awaiting further instructions from out scout helicopter. I was sitting there bored with the slow moving mission and was yawning and about to fall asleep when suddenly I heard the transmission noise pitch level change. I was suddenly fully alert, took control of the aircraft, started flying forward, (it takes less power to fly forward than to hover, especially out of ground effect) and confirmed that we were loosing power by checking the dual tachometer, and checked the throttle to make sure it was full on position. (in turbine helicopters with the throttle in the full on position the fuel control and governor then control the output of the engine according to the position of the collective.) The back seat pilot had unconsciously reduced the throttle while hovering taking authority away from the fuel control and governor which caused a loss of rotor RPM, a very critical situation in a helicopter. I recognized a problem by knowing what my helicopter sounded like, confirmed I had the problem by the tach and took action that may be necessary if it were only a partial power failure and we may be able to continue to fly with partial power, and solved the problem in about 2 or 3 seconds. I'm still amazed that I acted so "quickly and accurately" that day. BTY the Captain in the back seat did not know what had happened. I was able to react to this emergency because I had committed some critical action emergency procedures to memory. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: Colin Rainey > To: > Date: 11/12/2005 10:20:53 PM > Subject: KR> Check list usage > > I went to the Corvair College on Friday and met with Jack Cooper, Mark Langford, Bill Clapp, his friend (sorry forgot the name), and later saw Bob Lester who is doing much better, though in his words alittle shorter, Glenda McElwee, and the hangar gang. While there I talked to alot of prospective builders about the assembly, and merits of some of the new design features compared to older stuff, and had several discussions about flying and flight skills, specifically concerning the KR. Here are some thoughts, prompted by Mark Jones' post of his flight: > > First off, I have posted a 2 simple checklists, one for "normal" > flight, and one for emergency flight, on Dan Heath's web page. If you don't use them, make some of your own, but PLEASE use ONE! It is a proven fact that our mental capacity deteriorates rapidly with the stress of something going wrong. Checklists are so that you can focus on just flying the plane and not have to rely on memory for troubleshooting, or proper response to a given problem. Laminate them, and keep them IN THE PLANE at all times. It is regulatory for certified planes to have their operating manual in the aircraft during each flight. Part of your preflight includes checking for this manual and the airworthiness certificate, and registration. > > Second, once you have the checklists, get in your plane and practice using them, ON THE GROUND. We in teaching call it chair flying. Pretend you are going out to fly and rehearse EVERY procedure, no matter how well you know it. You will check the accuracy of your checklists, and you will begin developing a routine that will save your life. If you find that something has been omitted from your emergency or normal checklist, then don't fly until you correct your checklist. The Private Pilot Practical Test Standard has a section right in the beginning that discusses how the test is to be conducted, and one thing it mentions specifically is checklist usage. Not using a checklist to confirm that the pilot has performed the procedure correctly is grounds for a Notice of Dissatisfaction from the Examiner. Knowing this, I KNOW all the KR drivers out there had instruction in checklist usage, and its importance. DON"T FLY DIFFERENTLY just because you are in your plane, or no one is with you to critique you, or your confidence says you know the plane well. 2 commercial pilots with combined airline experience of over 20,000 hours died from running OUT OF FUEL, because neither checked the wing tanks, and assumed that maintenance had filled them up before returning the plane. Lots of experience does not mean correct procedures are being followed. > > Do this BEFORE flying and you will be able to relax while in the air, because you know that your habits and procedures will guide you through anything you are confronted with.... > > > Colin Rainey > brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net > EarthLink Revolves Around You. _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:47:30 -0500 From: "arnold d seligman" Subject: KR> (no subject) To: "KRnet" , "CorvAircraft (E-mail)" Message-ID: <003801c5e95c$a2b59780$2872e104@aseligman> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" view and brouse ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:39:45 +0000 From: Peter Diffey Subject: KR> KR2 wing removal To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <43791231.20708@heroic.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, I am just in the process of buying a KR2, and one of the big attractions is being able to easily remove the wings. My current a/c is stored 45 mins from home, and needs 30 mins to extract from the hangar, so being able to fly from a strip 10 miutes from the house is very attractive, plus it will save me £1300 a year. My question is how realist is it to take the wings off, how long do they take to fit, how often do you need to replace the bolts, and does this lead to hole elongation. I am figuring on leaving the wings on through the high summer months, and on/off at weekends in spring and fall. It's not gonna stop me going ahead with the purchase if you guys think it is a bad plan, just alter the economics a bit. Pete Diffey St Albans just north of London - under the Luton Airport TMA for any guys who know the area. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:51:23 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 wing removal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <015e01c5e96d$f165e0e0$7900a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Peter, The stock WAFs (Wing Attachment Fittings) are a pain to put on and off. It takes 2 people and about half an hour + for each operation of fitting or removing. I've looked at modifying the WAFs to make them easier, single pin both front and back droping in from the top. But then I got hangerage at AU$ 110.00 per month, 15 minutes from home and my problems went away. regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Diffey To: krnet@mylist.net Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:39 AM Subject: KR> KR2 wing removal Hi, I am just in the process of buying a KR2, and one of the big attractions is being able to easily remove the wings. My current a/c is stored 45 mins from home, and needs 30 mins to extract from the hangar, so being able to fly from a strip 10 miutes from the house is very attractive, plus it will save me £1300 a year. My question is how realist is it to take the wings off, how long do they take to fit, how often do you need to replace the bolts, and does this lead to hole elongation. I am figuring on leaving the wings on through the high summer months, and on/off at weekends in spring and fall. It's not gonna stop me going ahead with the purchase if you guys think it is a bad plan, just alter the economics a bit. Pete Diffey St Albans just north of London - under the Luton Airport TMA for any guys who know the area. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:54:18 +0000 From: Peter Diffey Subject: KR> A question on landing attitude To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <4379159A.2060209@heroic.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, This question concerns landing in a std KR2 tail dragger with Diehl fixed legs. I guess that regardless of the AUW, the 3 pointing speed should be the same for all KR2 built with the std length fuselage, so what is that speed. I know from my experience with my current aircraft that you get the best landing when you get the correct attitude, the tail wheel perhaps one inch above the ground when the mains kiss the ground. Has anybody gots some pointers how to set yourself up for getting it spot on the very first time. Pete Diffey ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 18:20:57 -0500 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> KR2 wing removal To: krnet@mylist.net Cc: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051114.182057.1452.0.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi: Go to www.wanttaja.com/alinks/index.html ,click on the chain homebuilts, you will fine about ever homebuilt airplane ever designed, and go to the Cvjetkovic CA-61 and CA-65 they have three section wings like the KR2. You may need to send him an email question about his folding wing option on the CA-65, I don't see it on the website but I know he had one that should work on the KR-2. Sincerely Jim , On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:39:45 +0000 Peter Diffey writes: > Hi, > > I am just in the process of buying a KR2, and one of the big > attractions > is being able to easily remove the wings. > > My current a/c is stored 45 mins from home, and needs 30 mins to > extract > from the hangar, so being able to fly from a strip 10 miutes from > the > house is very attractive, plus it will save me £1300 a year. > > My question is how realist is it to take the wings off, how long do > they > take to fit, how often do you need to replace the bolts, and does > this > lead to hole elongation. I am figuring on leaving the wings on > through > the high summer months, and on/off at weekends in spring and fall. > > It's not gonna stop me going ahead with the purchase if you guys > think > it is a bad plan, just alter the economics a bit. > > Pete Diffey > > St Albans just north of London - under the Luton Airport TMA for > any > guys who know the area. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 23:22:37 +0000 From: Peter Diffey Subject: KR> Checklists To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <43791C3D.8070703@heroic.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, My current plane is an open cockpit, Luton Minor - much like a Pietenpol. I found out real soon that checklists and maps can be real dangerous. My first checklist exited plane without permission, second one wrapped around my face in flight - I then dispatched it over the side. I also found that you really need to carry 2 maps folded in different ways, because it is impossible to refold the map in flight. Big advantage of hand held GPS - they don't blow away. The good news is there ain't much to check on a luton, my BUMFICH check is just a CH. carb heat - on, on, on ( been there done that ) harness tight - yep I suppose I could also check the fuel, but what's the point my emergency checklist found a big field - yep belts tight - yep. I am looking forward to the luxury of having something worth checking. Pete ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:29:53 -0600 From: ejanssen@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) Subject: Re: KR> KR2 wing removal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001001c5e973$513732d0$c000a8c0@dad> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Pete, While it IS possible, detaching and attaching the wings on a KR (built strictly to KR plans) each time you fly will probably drive you to the loony bin in short order. While it could be done a couple of times a year, the design is really not set up to do quickly and easily. Ed Ed Janssen mailto:ejanssen@chipsnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Diffey" To: Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: KR> KR2 wing removal Hi, I am just in the process of buying a KR2, and one of the big attractions is being able to easily remove the wings. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:36:21 -0600 From: "Robert L. Stone" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 wing removal To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001401c5e974$3890f7b0$5d817646@yourat5qgaac3z> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello Pete. Removing the wings from any KR aircraft is not an easy job and unless you have a saw horse or something equal to put under the wing tip, it's a two man Job. I do not know what the standard is in England for locknuts but here they are not to be removed and replaced more than three times. I have never heard of the holes at the attach points becoming elongated. Because of the time and effort it takes to remove or replace the wings on KR aircraft, most all of the people I know who own one or have owned one keep their aircraft in a hanger or any enclosure and leave the wings on except to take the aircraft home from time to time for maintenance. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx, USA rstone4@hot.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Diffey" To: Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: KR> KR2 wing removal Hi, I am just in the process of buying a KR2, and one of the big attractions is being able to easily remove the wings. My current a/c is stored 45 mins from home, and needs 30 mins to extract from the hangar, so being able to fly from a strip 10 miutes from the house is very attractive, plus it will save me £1300 a year. My question is how realist is it to take the wings off, how long do they take to fit, how often do you need to replace the bolts, and does this lead to hole elongation. I am figuring on leaving the wings on through the high summer months, and on/off at weekends in spring and fall. It's not gonna stop me going ahead with the purchase if you guys think it is a bad plan, just alter the economics a bit. Pete Diffey St Albans just north of London - under the Luton Airport TMA for any guys who know the area. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 15:37:47 -0800 (PST) From: Dennis Mingear Subject: Re: KR> KR2 wing removal To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051114233747.61115.qmail@web51406.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Study these pictures of a British KR that is stored in a trailer. http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/katkinson/ I think you'll find them interesting. Denny ... Ed Janssen wrote: Pete, While it IS possible, detaching and attaching the wings on a KR (built strictly to KR plans) each time you fly will probably drive you to the loony bin in short order. While it could be done a couple of times a year, the design is really not set up to do quickly and easily. Ed Ed Janssen mailto:ejanssen@chipsnet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Diffey" To: Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:39 PM Subject: KR> KR2 wing removal Hi, I am just in the process of buying a KR2, and one of the big attractions is being able to easily remove the wings. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:24:20 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> A question on landing attitude To: Message-ID: <43792AB4.000001.02940@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Click on this. Best advise on how to land a KR that I have ever read. I plan to memorize it before I go up the first time in ours. http://members.socket.net/~jfaughn/kr/uniquepartsofmykr/kr_landing.html See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- From: Peter Diffey Date: 11/14/05 17:54:29 To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> A question on landing attitude Hi, This question concerns landing in a std KR2 tail dragger with Diehl fixed legs. I guess that regardless of the AUW, the 3 pointing speed should be the same for all KR2 built with the std length fuselage, so what is that speed. I know from my experience with my current aircraft that you get the best landing when you get the correct attitude, the tail wheel perhaps one inch above the ground when the mains kiss the ground. Has anybody gots some pointers how to set yourself up for getting it spot on the very first time. Pete Diffey _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:26:16 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR2 wing removal To: Message-ID: <43792B28.000003.02940@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I know this is redundant, but just so you get the message, BAD plan. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- It's not gonna stop me going ahead with the purchase if you guys think it is a bad plan, just alter the economics a bit. ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 21:27:05 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Making wing gap cover, attach brackets To: Message-ID: <43794779.000011.02940@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I talked to the inspector today and the inspection is scheduled for sometime Saturday. There are still several things that have to be done, the most time consuming of which, is making the wing gap cover attach brackets. So, I took a half day off today and went to the airport to get that done. I was about half way finished with the first one when a person stopped by and wanted to look at the KR. He said, "what is this one, I don't think that I have ever seen one of these." I told him that it was a KR2 and he said, oh, let me introduce myself, I am John Pipen, I think we have met before." and I told him that we had, because he was going to give me a ride in his plane. I couldn't remember the exact name of it. Then he remembered and said "oh yeah, that's it, I was going to give you a ride in the Deuce. I'm sorry we could not work it out for your bi-annual". He was also going to give me my bi-annual, but could not find the time. He just got back from doing missionary work in Haiti. He is a CFI and commercial pilot. Then he said that he wanted to bring it out because he had not flown it in over a month. So we went down and pulled it out of the hangar and I asked him how to pronounce the name of it and he spelled it for me "BAKENG DEUCE". Then he told me that if I had a jacket that I better get it. I got my jacket and dawned the head gear for flying open cockpit. Soon, I was duded up like Snoopy in the Sopwith Camel and we were taking off with the sound of the wind ringing in our ears. This was the first time I had flown in an open cockpit and was it cool, oh, yes, it was also cool, and I am glad I had my jacket. He gave me the controls for a while and I found it to be a very stable craft It is just the opposite of a KR, heavy on the rudders but very responsive to rudder input. Pics to follow when I get them. And, I guess the wing gap cover attach brackets will have to wait for another day. Like Mark says, "Life is Good" See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:27:19 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> KR2 wing removal To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051114.223209.660.2.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 A Col ??? had plans for a wing fold up. Check archives, Virg On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:39:45 +0000 Peter Diffey writes: > Hi, > > I am just in the process of buying a KR2, and one of the big > attractions > is being able to easily remove the wings. > > My current a/c is stored 45 mins from home, and needs 30 mins to > extract > from the hangar, so being able to fly from a strip 10 miutes from > the > house is very attractive, plus it will save me £1300 a year. > > My question is how realist is it to take the wings off, how long do > they > take to fit, how often do you need to replace the bolts, and does > this > lead to hole elongation. I am figuring on leaving the wings on > through > the high summer months, and on/off at weekends in spring and fall. > > It's not gonna stop me going ahead with the purchase if you guys > think > it is a bad plan, just alter the economics a bit. > > Pete Diffey > > St Albans just north of London - under the Luton Airport TMA for > any > guys who know the area. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:29:58 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> A question on landing attitude To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051114.223209.660.3.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii full stall is about 13 Deg angle of attack. You will not get near that w/ aKR. Chack archive about landing technique, Virg On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 22:54:18 +0000 Peter Diffey writes: > Hi, > > This question concerns landing in a std KR2 tail dragger with Diehl > > fixed legs. > > I guess that regardless of the AUW, the 3 pointing speed should be > the > same for all KR2 built with the std length fuselage, so what is that > speed. > > I know from my experience with my current aircraft that you get the > > best landing when you get the correct attitude, the tail wheel > perhaps > one inch above the ground when the mains kiss the ground. > > Has anybody gots some pointers how to set yourself up for getting it > > spot on the very first time. > > Pete Diffey > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:37:38 -0800 (PST) From: isaac milton Subject: Re: KR> Civil unrest in France To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051115033738.82216.qmail@web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi guys, I'm building in Boise Idaho, am African American by ethniticy, and was Army Special Forces for nearly 10 years... wounded in Panama in 89, relatively new pilot, but have taken off 300 more times than I've landed, so I feel comfortable with you guys. I enjoy the threads, it's helped me a lot, and I spend most of my evenings soaking it up. I'd appreciate, respectfully, if you leave the political opinions elsewhere, as any position has it's counter, and here is not the place. Don't you agree? Isaac Milton KR-2 ROUSEDABOUT Boise Idaho, USA --- Serge VIDAL wrote: > Hi, Phil, and all. > > Yep, I'm OK, the "civil unrest" is definitely not in > my street. Pity, > though, 'cause it would be a rare opportunity at > taking potshots at the > rioters! ;-) > > More seriously, the situation in France is quite > simple: around all large > cities, we have suburbs full of young Arabs and > Africans, whose fathers > came to France long ago when jobs were aplenty. > There are also lots of > illegal immigrants there, too. These guys probably > represent more than 10% > of the population now, although nobody knows for > sure, because the law > forbids to make statistics on an ethnic basis. > > In general, these populations failed to succeed, > despite the faboulous > help you get from the state (education is free, and > of good quality; > parents get monthly child education grants; > unemployed people get generous > pensions, and when these dry out, you get a "minimum > income" grant which > is about two thirds of minimum wages; public > transports are heavily > subsidised; and so on; the list is endless, as is > the list of taxes to > finance all that). > > These guys are simply not interested in becoming > "normal" citizens, and > blame everybody else for their failure. You don't > let them do whatever > they want? You're a racist, period! > > When France went under attack by Algerian > terrorists, each time the police > arrested or killed one, these guys would riot, in > support. For the past > ten years or so, they have celebrated on New Year's > Eve by burning cars > (about 500 a year). This time, the unrest has been > triggered by the fact > that two robbers ran away the police, hid inside an > electrical converter > post, and killed themselves. > > Make no mistake. France is not an ethnically based > nation. We believe in > equal citizenship and common values, and our model > puts the state well > above communities. Religion and race are considered > private matters, and > don't get special statuses. We have always had lots > of migrants here. Just > look at me: father was half Spanish, half Moroccan; > mother is Swiss. The > guy sitting in front of me at the office is from > Italian origin. My > assistant is from South East Asia. > > But smooth integration does not seem to work with > these guys. > > In short, France now houses a large hostile and > useless population, and no > government will have the balls to deal with the > issue, for fear of being > branded racists, or insensitive, or whatever. They > will simply dump more > money into these suburbs, and raise more taxes to > pay for it. Their > subsidized housing will probably be repainted and > overhauled for the > umptenth time, so that they can vandalize it again. > > I'm afraid this country is doomed, because we seem > not to know the > difference between being human and being stupid. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Yahoo! 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