From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 466 Date: 11/16/2005 9:00:36 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. R?f. : Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel (Serge VIDAL) 2. R?f. : R?f. : Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel (Serge VIDAL) 3. RE: LANDING GEAR WIDTH (Frank Ross) 4. Re: Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel (Allen Wiesner ) 5. Re: Civil unrest in France (JIM RALEIGH) 6. Header Tank (Bob Glidden) 7. (no subject) (Joe Beyer) 8. GEAR WIDTH / trailer / GPS (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 9. Fuel tanks (Colin Rainey) 10. RE: LANDING GEAR WIDTH (Brian Kraut) 11. Re: Prop Clearance/ Gear Extensions (Phil Matheson) 12. Re: LANDING GEAR Weight (Phil Matheson) 13. Re: LANDING GEAR Weight (Dan Heath) 14. Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel (M & C) 15. Re: Fuel tanks (Bob Glidden) 16. LANDING GEAR Weight (Larry H.) 17. Fuel Tank (Larry H.) 18. Re: Fuel Tank (Bob Glidden) 19. Re: LANDING GEAR WIDTH (Lee Van Dyke) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:31:19 +0100 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, let's see. The closest AN size would then be AN6, which is 9.53mm instead of 10mm. That is a .47mm difference, which is 0..0185 inch. Considering that the current bolts are threaded all along, whereas the new ones would have a slick shank at the grip... OK, I'll buy it. That makes me think that maybe I should apply the same reasoning to the bolts that hold the engine mount to the firewall, since these are M-10 (10mm) too . My three incentives for using AN bolts instead of metric are: 1 - Can't find any metric aircraft bolts around here; 2 - Can't find standard, hardware quality bolts with an unthreaded shank either; 3 - Can't find cadmium-plated harware quality bolts; 4- Importing aircraft grade bolts from the US costs me less than buying standard grade bolts from the hardware shop, even taking into account transport and duties. Go figure! Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France Matthew Elder Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem.com@mylist.net 2005-11-16 18:38 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-11-16 18:38 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel No.. Not at all. The clamp load generated by the bolts is what holds the joint together. I mean, when you get it all bolted down to the proper torque, it's not going to slide around any more than if it was a .001" clearance. Matt Serge VIDAL wrote: Yep, I thought of that, but don't you think that .5mm is too much gap? My gear brackets are made of cast aluminum, and my fear is that if the legs are not tightly fit, then maybe that may induce some cracks. Then, again, I am fairly ignorant as far as metal work is concened. Serge Matthew Elder Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-11-16 15:55 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-11-16 15:57 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel Maybe a silly question, but wouldn't you be better off just using an AN-6 (3/8) fastener? The holes would already be oversized about .5mm (around .020"). Then you wouldn't have to drill. Just a thought. Matt Serge VIDAL wrote: This is one is for steel specialists: My taildragger KR2 main landing gear legs are made of spring steel. They hold to the gear brackets by 4 bolts each. The bolts are metric, 10mm diameter. I would like to change that for the nearest AN size. That would be an AN7, which is 7/16", that is 11.11mm. So I would have to enlarge the holes. Now, I don't know much about steel, but I know by experience that it is very hard to drill through these legs, since 3 years ago, I tried to drill a couple of tiny holes to hold some brackets for the brakes lines, and I gave up. Questions, then: what are my chances to succeed, what kind of drill bits should I use, and what is the correct drilling technique? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------------------------- Matthew Elder Orangeburg, SC http://www.infinigral.com/melder My Airplane Project: http://www.infinigral.com/melder/flying/KR1/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------------------------- Matthew Elder Orangeburg, SC http://www.infinigral.com/melder My Airplane Project: http://www.infinigral.com/melder/flying/KR1/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:36:13 +0100 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : R?f. : Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Err... my three incentives are actually like the three musketeers. Actually, there are 4 of them. And that should be 0.0185, not 0..0185, I guess. Incidentally, I am told that cadmium plating is banned in Europe (or will be soon, I'm not too sure), on environmental grounds. Sorry for the mistakes, guys, it has been a long day. Serge Serge VIDAL Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-11-16 19:31 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-11-16 19:32 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Réf. : Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel OK, let's see. The closest AN size would then be AN6, which is 9.53mm instead of 10mm. That is a .47mm difference, which is 0..0185 inch. Considering that the current bolts are threaded all along, whereas the new ones would have a slick shank at the grip... OK, I'll buy it. That makes me think that maybe I should apply the same reasoning to the bolts that hold the engine mount to the firewall, since these are M-10 (10mm) too . My three incentives for using AN bolts instead of metric are: 1 - Can't find any metric aircraft bolts around here; 2 - Can't find standard, hardware quality bolts with an unthreaded shank either; 3 - Can't find cadmium-plated harware quality bolts; 4- Importing aircraft grade bolts from the US costs me less than buying standard grade bolts from the hardware shop, even taking into account transport and duties. Go figure! Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France Matthew Elder Envoyé par : krnet-bounces+serge.vidal=sagem.com@mylist.net 2005-11-16 18:38 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-11-16 18:38 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel No.. Not at all. The clamp load generated by the bolts is what holds the joint together. I mean, when you get it all bolted down to the proper torque, it's not going to slide around any more than if it was a .001" clearance. Matt Serge VIDAL wrote: Yep, I thought of that, but don't you think that .5mm is too much gap? My gear brackets are made of cast aluminum, and my fear is that if the legs are not tightly fit, then maybe that may induce some cracks. Then, again, I am fairly ignorant as far as metal work is concened. Serge Matthew Elder Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-11-16 15:55 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-11-16 15:57 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel Maybe a silly question, but wouldn't you be better off just using an AN-6 (3/8) fastener? The holes would already be oversized about .5mm (around .020"). Then you wouldn't have to drill. Just a thought. Matt Serge VIDAL wrote: This is one is for steel specialists: My taildragger KR2 main landing gear legs are made of spring steel. They hold to the gear brackets by 4 bolts each. The bolts are metric, 10mm diameter. I would like to change that for the nearest AN size. That would be an AN7, which is 7/16", that is 11.11mm. So I would have to enlarge the holes. Now, I don't know much about steel, but I know by experience that it is very hard to drill through these legs, since 3 years ago, I tried to drill a couple of tiny holes to hold some brackets for the brakes lines, and I gave up. Questions, then: what are my chances to succeed, what kind of drill bits should I use, and what is the correct drilling technique? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------------------------- Matthew Elder Orangeburg, SC http://www.infinigral.com/melder My Airplane Project: http://www.infinigral.com/melder/flying/KR1/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------------------------- Matthew Elder Orangeburg, SC http://www.infinigral.com/melder My Airplane Project: http://www.infinigral.com/melder/flying/KR1/ _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:18:35 -0800 (PST) From: Frank Ross Subject: RE: KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051116201835.34677.qmail@web32010.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 --- Ron Freiberger wrote: > That's easy for you to say, but we don't have > snowmobile trailers in > SouthWET Florida. > > Ron Freiberger > mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net Ron, Now that all the boats have blown away, you should be able to find a few unused boat trailers... Frank Frank Ross, EAA Chapter 35, San Geronimo, TX RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK Visit my photo album at: http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:29:39 -0500 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004401c5eaf4$da6948e0$bb0eda42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Serge: You can also make up a "ersatz" sleeve with some sheet shim stock. The best would be steel @ 0.009" with no overlap, but three pieces of 0.003 with the seams staggered @ 120 degrees should also work. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:52:50 -0600 From: "JIM RALEIGH" Subject: Re: KR> Civil unrest in France To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <010701c5eb00$7a49a020$abc91b45@HPAuthorizedCustomer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree with Ron. I for one wanted to know from someone in France what was going on. I had heard about the same thing on conservative talk radio but wanted to hear it from some one on scene who didn't have a conservative or liberal axe to grind. I know it was off topic but Serge has contributed a great deal to this forum and in my opinion had the right tell his story. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Freiberger" To: ; "'KRnet'" Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:33 PM Subject: RE: KR> Civil unrest in France > No, Serge is in a unique position to tell us what's going on. He's a > frequent contributor we respect, and has given a real insight into the > problems of licensing an African aircraft in France. I really > appreciated his info. > > Ron Freiberger > mail to ronandmartha@earthlink.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net] On > Behalf Of isaac milton > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:38 PM > To: KRnet > Subject: Re: KR> Civil unrest in France > > > Hi guys, > > I'm building in Boise Idaho, am African American by ethniticy, and > was Army Special Forces for nearly 10 years... wounded in Panama in > 89, relatively new pilot, but have taken off 300 more times than I've > landed, so I feel comfortable with you guys. I enjoy > the threads, it's helped me a lot, and I spend most of > my evenings soaking it up. I'd appreciate, > respectfully, if you leave the political opinions > elsewhere, as any position has it's counter, and here > is not the place. Don't you agree? > > Isaac Milton > KR-2 ROUSEDABOUT > Boise Idaho, USA > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:56:14 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: KR> Header Tank To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001101c5eb09$53fd0110$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Doe's anybody on the net have a drawing of a small 8 - 10 gallon header tank or know of a source to buy one? I would really like it made from Aluminum,but would be open to any idea.I really don't want it much bigger then 10 gallons.I'll be at lodge till later,but will answer anyone who replies later.You can email direct to me if you would like,but others may be interested as well.I am looking at a way to make Mark L's header tank he build,but out of 2024-T3 and smaller. Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:28:22 -0800 From: "Joe Beyer" Subject: KR> (no subject) To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message: 10 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 04:44:09 -0800 (PST) From: Scott William Subject: Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051116124409.29179.qmail@web31512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Just my opinion.......Use cobalt or titanium drill >bits, turn them real slow (as in the slow setting on a drillpress), and >keep them oiled throughout the process. >Scott Hello I had the same problem with my spring steel tail wheel spring. I bought a couple of those cheap masonary drill bits at the hardware store and they worked using your methods. I had to drill 2 ea. 1/4" holes. I didn't have a drill press then so I used a hand drill. It took a while to get through it and ruined the drill bits. -Joe ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 18:49:12 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: KR> GEAR WIDTH / trailer / GPS To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051116182848.036e34e8@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >Ron, >Now that all the boats have blown away, you should be >able to find a few unused boat trailers... >Frank Ross, ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ That's what I use and it works just fine. I bought a used boat trailer, 12" wheels, tandem axles, and put three runners on it using 2" X 10" boards. I have hauled my KR several times, an Acro Sport II several times, an RV4, a Long Eze, Tailwind projects, Kitfox, Zenith 601, and I forget what else. Two people can load. One on the winch to draw in on and the other to steer. Tie down straps to the frame and timber chalks screwed directly to the deck. The trailer started life as a trailer for a river jon boat so it was long and flat. I got my new Lowrance 500 Airmap yesterday. Now I have to figure out how to use it. $231 total including shipping. LC Flight in Jefferson City, Mo (800 771 3901) has them for $325 and I had my $100 rebate from Lowrance for my old Airmap 300. It includes external antenna, cigarette lighter adapter, several Ram adjustable mounts, Map Create 6 software, an MMC card reader with USB connector, a free padded case, and I guess that's it. With Map Create I can load highway maps and waterway maps along with searchable points of interest like hotels, restaurants, etc. Way more than I'll ever need or will learn how to use. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:56:08 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Fuel tanks To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-22005114170568729@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Between Summit Racing, JC Whitney's and Jegs Racing catalogs you should be able to find any tank shape and size, made from either steel/aluminum racing approved, or plastic. Some are foam filled already, some are not. Some have sending units already installed, some do not. Most all have fuel pickups, and return connections, as well as vent line fittings. They even have extension necks for mounting on the side of your "car" plane. I intend to get a dragster mini tank of about 5-6 gallons to locate behind the passenger seat, and use it on long cross countries to extend range one full hour. I will transfer fuel to the header for use, keeping the fuel system simple and mods minimal. I will not need a gauge on it since I have one on the main tank, and this one will pump into the main. A fuselage access door will be enough to get to it. Both organizations have web pages with most of the catalog items available for searching. They also have alot of the other parts that us Corvair guys are using borrowed from the rest of the small block Chevy family, like the MSD dual coil/points fixture. Part number on Mark Langford's site... http://www.summitracing.com/ http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/StoreCatalogDisplay/c-10101/s-10101 http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategoriesDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10002 Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:58:21 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Weight is on the web page at www.diehlaero.com. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Larry H. Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:17 AM To: krnet talk Subject: KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH Ron, I am with you on the landing gear width for trailering. I carried a KR2 to Oshkosh a few years ago for a guy I know. An extra wide trailer had to be borrowed to haul it. I said at that time that the landing gear needed to be at least 8 to 12 inches more narrow just for a normal trailer. Still hoping someone knows the weights of the Diehl landing gear system, either as a whole or individual parts. Thanks Larry H. _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:22:01 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Prop Clearance/ Gear Extensions To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002a01c5eb15$50bf92e0$4ca1443d@pii433> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm fitting a 60 inch Dia X 65 Inch Pitch Sweat Apple prop on my RG2000 engine. (26 to 2700 prop rpm max) At the moment I have about 8 inch prop clearance. Because of the gear drive and the high torque this engine produces, it is a waste of time fitting a smaller dia prop. I have been looking at Fitting the Mark L's extended main leg brackets, and I have the Diehl tri gear. I want to extend the lower end of the front strut 2 inches, Options 1-Weld 2 inches to the front leg, and get the leg reheat treated. (4130) 2- make up a 2 inch extension that is machined interference to slid into the front strut then weld and heat treat. (4130) 3- Make up a new longer swivel mount for the front strut fork. (4130) thus leaving the front strut as standard. Any ideas would be welcome.or New ideas I have not yet considered I am not offended very easily and yes I can use the Delete button. Phillip Matheson VHPKR Australia. mathesonp@dodo.com.au http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:27:11 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> LANDING GEAR Weight To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002e01c5eb16$097caa20$4ca1443d@pii433> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Larry I have the Dan Diehl gear bit have not weighted them the following was cut and pasted from Dan\s web page. http://www.diehlaero.com/landing.htm So if you know the weight of the retact gear, the tri gera is 7 lbs lighter ??? Specifications Conventional Gear 5 mph increase cruising speed over STD retract gear. 15 lbs weight savings over the retract gear. Tricycle Gear 5 mph slower cruising speed.than retract gear 7 lbs weight savings over the stock retract gear. Phillip Matheson VHPKR Australia. mathesonp@dodo.com.au http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:39:25 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> LANDING GEAR Weight To: Message-ID: <437BDF4D.000001.03500@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" So that would indicate that the scoochers are 10MPH faster than the nosers. Glad to be a schoocher. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- Conventional Gear 5 mph increase cruising speed over STD retract gear. 15 lbs weight savings over the retract gear. Tricycle Gear 5 mph slower cruising speed.than retract gear 7 lbs weight savings over the stock retract gear. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:21:55 -0600 From: "M & C" Subject: Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Serge if you are worried about the slop can't you use a sleve to take up the slack perferbly something inert so no corrosion can start due to dissimbler materials. Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri USA Swing the prop and light the fire, dance amoung the stars.........N642MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge VIDAL" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel Yep, I thought of that, but don't you think that .5mm is too much gap? Serge Matthew Elder Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-11-16 15:55 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-11-16 15:57 Pour : KRnet cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> Main landing gears - Drilling through spring steel Maybe a silly question, but wouldn't you be better off just using an AN-6 (3/8) fastener? The holes would already be oversized about .5mm (around 020"). Then you wouldn't have to drill. Just a thought. Matt ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:22:48 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <002101c5eb1d$ce26b7b0$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thanks Colin I'll take a look and see what I can find.My plan is to have about 8 gallon or so in the header tank for gravity feed carb and then transfer out of wing tanks to refill that when needed.Thanks again... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:08:12 -0600 From: "Larry H." Subject: KR> LANDING GEAR Weight To: Message-ID: <001401c5eb24$25b6e3a0$6701a8c0@boss1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dan, There is a time for building, a time for scooching, and a time for flying ! Larry H. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:22:54 -0600 From: "Larry H." Subject: KR> Fuel Tank To: "krnet talk" Message-ID: <001d01c5eb26$3382ec70$6701a8c0@boss1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Hi Bob, Take a look at the BK1 website below. When the front page of the website comes up, click on the BK1.0 builders log which is 180 photos of the building process. Photos 76 thru 79 show photos of his metal fuel tank that he built. There are captions at the bottom of the photos. He built his tank with pieces of metal (probably aluminum) that he bent up to fit his plane, riveted together and used pro seal to seal all the joints. http://bkfliers.com/ Larry H. ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:52:22 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Tank To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005501c5eb2a$50e780b0$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thanks Larry I'll take a look at it.I'm going to weld mine up,mainly because I have a Airforce certified welder that works for mountain dew... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:18:47 -0700 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: Re: KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001701c5eb2e$03384710$6401a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If you guys go to my web site, I brought my plane from MI to AZ and then from my house to the airport with a Harbor Freight 4 x 8 fold up trailer. 199.00 Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry H." To: "krnet talk" Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH > Ron, > I am with you on the landing gear width for trailering. I carried a > KR2 to Oshkosh a few years ago for a guy I know. An extra wide trailer had to be borrowed to haul it. I said at that time that the landing gear needed to be at least 8 to 12 inches more narrow just for a normal trailer. > Still hoping someone knows the weights of the Diehl landing gear > system, either as a whole or individual parts. > Thanks > Larry H. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 466 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================