From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 468 Date: 11/17/2005 7:33:24 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. prop length (Colin Rainey) 2. Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks (patrusso) 3. R?f. : Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks (Serge VIDAL) 4. pix and report from Corvair College 9 (Oscar Zuniga) 5. patrusso's friend (Oscar Zuniga) 6. Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 7. Prop Clearance/ (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 8. Re: Electronic Ignition (Dan Heath) 9. Re: Fuel tanks-transfer methods (Barry Kruyssen) 10. Re: Electronic Ignition (phil brookman) 11. Re: Electronic Ignition (patrusso) 12. Re: Electronic Ignition (Dan Heath) 13. Re: prop length (patrusso) 14. RE: GPS (Doug Rupert) 15. Re: Fuel Tank (Bob Glidden) 16. Re: pix and report from Corvair College 9 (Bob Glidden) 17. Re: Prop Clearance - Larger wheels/tires/tyres (Phil Matheson) 18. Re: pix and report from Corvair College 9 (Bob Glidden) 19. RE: GPS (Brian Kraut) 20. Re: GPS (Barry Kruyssen) 21. RE: GPS (Brian Kraut) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:25:56 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> prop length To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-2200511417182556589@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII According to the author on "How to Make Propellers", take the desired 2 blade length and multiply it by the constant .933 for a 3 blade length conversion, or .86 times the 2 blade length for a 4 blade conversion, and you will get the "same " performance from the reduced length/more blades. A 60 inch 2 blade, will be 55.98 inch 3 blade, or 56 inches; 4 blade will be 51.6 or 52 inches. Multiple blades are quieter, and climb better with only a small increase in drag incurred. The big engine planes use multiple blades when ground clearance prohibits the use of a longer blade. The reasons for using a 3 or 4 bladed prop are: 1) increased ground clearance; 2) the need for longer blades to harness the hp, but increased blade length causes the ends to break the speed of sound; 3) inherently balanced by the multi blade setup/easier balanced, quieter operation. Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:48:24 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004201c5eba7$7da7ec70$5aa772d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I have the pump mounted between my legs, on the forward face of the main spar and a bright red light that goes on with the pump. Don't know why I did all this, cuz I have to land to pee long before the header tank empties. And NO, I will not carry a container with me for peeing in flight! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge VIDAL" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:34 AM Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks >I have the same set-up. The header is 45 liter (that is 11.89 gallons >in Flintstone units), and the wing tanks are 15 liters (3.96 gallons) >each. I get the same aural warning (the clicketing Facet fuel pump), >which works only if it is mounted inside the cockpit, of course. Gave >me a big fright one day. I had completely forgotten the fuel transfer >pump was ON, and when the pump started clicketing, I thought it was an >engine noise, possibly the engine losing a valve or two. High pucker >factor, getting ready for a forced landing, until I figured it out. > > The header is vented through its cap, so in case of header overflow, I > get fuel spray over the canopy. Good warning, too! Actually, the wing > tanks vents are connected to the top of the main tank, so some of the > overflow goes back to the wings, but the pump pumps fuel faster than > it can exit through the vent lines. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > "patrusso" > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > 2005-11-17 12:48 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-11-17 12:51 > > > Pour : "KRnet" > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Fuel tanks > > > > I have 12 gallons in the header tank and two five gallon wing tanks. > Why are you restricted to 8 gals in the header tank? I do have a fuel > pump to move > > fuel from wing to upper tank, then gravity feed from there. Steve > Bennet strongly suggested I install a fuel pump from header tank to > carb, but I simply have'nt gotten arounf to it. I transfer fuel by > sound. When the wings empty, the pump goes clackety-clack and I turn > it off. Have to keep an eye > > on it tho so that the header tank does not over-fill. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Glidden" > To: ; "KRnet" > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks > > >> Thanks Colin >> I'll take a look and see what I can find.My plan is to have about 8 > gallon >> or so in the header tank for gravity feed carb and then transfer out >> of wing tanks to refill that when needed.Thanks again... >> >> Bob Glidden >> Eminence,Indiana >> KR2S N181FW (building) >> Corvair 110 >> glidden@ccrtc.com >> >> --- >> --- >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:57:54 +0100 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What about wearing diapers? (nappies, for UK speakers) ;-) Hey, that's against the color code. Red lights should be for emergencies only. What is your inspector thinking? ;-) Transferring fuel is good for your CG. I always tried to keep a full header when flying with a pax. Sergz "patrusso" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-11-17 19:48 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-11-17 19:49 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks I have the pump mounted between my legs, on the forward face of the main spar and a bright red light that goes on with the pump. Don't know why I did all this, cuz I have to land to pee long before the header tank empties. And NO, I will not carry a container with me for peeing in flight! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge VIDAL" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:34 AM Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks >I have the same set-up. The header is 45 liter (that is 11.89 gallons >in Flintstone units), and the wing tanks are 15 liters (3.96 gallons) >each. I get the same aural warning (the clicketing Facet fuel pump), >which works > only if it is mounted inside the cockpit, of course. Gave me a big fright > one day. I had completely forgotten the fuel transfer pump was ON, and > when the pump started clicketing, I thought it was an engine noise, > possibly the engine losing a valve or two. High pucker factor, getting > ready for a forced landing, until I figured it out. > > The header is vented through its cap, so in case of header overflow, I get > fuel spray over the canopy. Good warning, too! Actually, the wing > tanks vents are connected to the top of the main tank, so some of the > overflow goes back to the wings, but the pump pumps fuel faster than > it can exit through the vent lines. > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > "patrusso" > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > 2005-11-17 12:48 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-11-17 12:51 > > > Pour : "KRnet" > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Fuel tanks > > > > I have 12 gallons in the header tank and two five gallon wing tanks. > Why are you restricted to 8 gals in the header tank? I do have a fuel > pump to move > > fuel from wing to upper tank, then gravity feed from there. Steve > Bennet strongly suggested I install a fuel pump from header tank to > carb, but I simply have'nt gotten arounf to it. I transfer fuel by > sound. When the wings empty, the pump goes clackety-clack and I turn > it off. Have to keep an eye > > on it tho so that the header tank does not over-fill. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Glidden" > To: ; "KRnet" > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks > > >> Thanks Colin >> I'll take a look and see what I can find.My plan is to have about 8 > gallon >> or so in the header tank for gravity feed carb and then transfer out >> of wing tanks to refill that when needed.Thanks again... >> >> Bob Glidden >> Eminence,Indiana >> KR2S N181FW (building) >> Corvair 110 >> glidden@ccrtc.com >> >> --- >> --- >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:06:49 -0600 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> pix and report from Corvair College 9 To: krnet@mylist.net, pietenpol-list@matronics.com, corvaircraft@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ... are on William's website, at http://www.flycorvair.com/cc9a.html Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:27:39 -0600 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> patrusso's friend To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed This is off-topic, so I'm just asking "patrusso" to email me OFF LIST if there are any pictures of the Horizon/80% scale L-19 available for viewing. And yes, it is encouraging and amazing what an interesting hobby can do for somebody who is despondent and maybe feels like they have no real purpose to drag themselves out of bed each morning. Homebuilders don't have that problem... I have trouble going to sleep most nights due to all the ideas in my head and things that I need to try out in the shop. Just not enough time! Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:04:23 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: R?f. : Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051117.145149.3700.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The problem is drawing fuel from the sight gauge rather than from the tank and loosing fuel feed, Virg On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:37:15 +0100 Serge VIDAL writes: > I agree. I believe this is the source of my problem with my sight > gauge > (it has a serious lag, and then a sudden drop). > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > VIRGIL N SALISBURY > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > 2005-11-17 15:51 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-11-17 16:32 > > > Pour : krnet@mylist.net > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods > > > > However, Do NOT use a "T" at the bottom of the tank. Use > SEPARATE openings for the sight gauge and the feed, Virg > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:24:05 -0800 (PST) Frank Ross > > writes: > > --- Colin Rainey > > wrote: > > I will transfer fuel to the header for use, > > > keeping the fuel system simple and mods minimal. > > > > > Colin Rainey > > > > Colin, > > Howard Kaiser's KR-2 in the Phoenix area (80s - 90s) > > had a simple rubber-bulb, squeeze-type fuel pump from > > a boat under the pilot's legs to transfer fuel from > > the wing tanks to the header tank. > > Worked very well, but too busy for me. > > Of course this could be adapted to take advantage of > > the "pucker-factor" but you have to make sure you > > don't over-fill the header tank in that case... > > Header tank fuel "gauge" was the old tube from the top > > of the header tank, out through the panel, down > > vertically to the bottom of the panel and back into > > the header tank. Also worked well, requiring no > > electricity. > > Simple and VERY reliable. > > FWIW > > Frank > > > > > > Frank Ross, > > EAA Chapter 35, > > San Geronimo, TX > > RAF Lakenheath, Suffolk, England, UK > > Visit my photo album at: > > http://photos.yahoo.com/alamokr2 > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL > www.lubedealer.com/salisbury > Miami ,Fl > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 16:49:47 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: KR> Prop Clearance/ To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051117164548.03798470@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Phil, I'd go with the 8" clearance for now and just be careful. See if things work out and then MAYBE think about larger diameter tires, different lower gear fittings, etc. You're more apt to get into trouble with a taildragger if you land flat and hit hard. With a nose dragger you should have the nose pretty high on landing anyway. Just a thought............. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:03:13 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Electronic Ignition To: Message-ID: <437D0C31.000001.01636@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We have a single mag and an electronic ignition. I think this offers the best of both worlds and redundancy. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- mags, if I can get them rebuilt, Ie. Parts' replace the mag (dual ignition) for a electronic ignition (single) Thoughts??? ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:10:37 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <040201c5ebcc$20a04fc0$7900a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi All, I've just finished building my wing stub fuel tanks and tonight I was going to do the plumbing. I intend to pump fuel into the a "T" at the top of the fuel sight gauge. Benefits: 1. My header tank does not leak and would require no modifications that may make it leak (also it would require major surgery to add a transfer inlet) 2. I figure (not tested yet) that I will see some fuel running through my sight gauge as fuel is being pumped up. 3. Fuel cannot siphon back to the wing tanks if the non return valve fails. I know Virgil said not the bottom of the sight gauge but does any one see a problem with using the top and if so why. thanks Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY To: krnet@mylist.net Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:51 AM Subject: Re: KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods However, Do NOT use a "T" at the bottom of the tank. Use SEPARATE openings for the sight gauge and the feed, Virg ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:35:11 -0000 From: "phil brookman" Subject: Re: KR> Electronic Ignition To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006f01c5ebcf$8da67060$73a51352@philljl2re6t9i> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 yes i find a lot of merit in this too 2 seperate systems very hard to stop question is do you use them both all the time p ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: Re: KR> Electronic Ignition > We have a single mag and an electronic ignition. I think this offers > the best of both worlds and redundancy. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > is OVER. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > -------Original Message------- > > mags, if I can get them rebuilt, Ie. Parts' replace the mag (dual ignition) > > for a electronic ignition (single) > > Thoughts??? > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/172 - Release Date: > 15/11/2005 > > ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 24538 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/172 - Release Date: 15/11/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:35:36 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> Electronic Ignition To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000c01c5ebcf$9cadca40$eea672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dan Does that mean two different types/sets of plugs? And, are they easily timed to work together or are you running either/or? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 6:03 PM Subject: Re: KR> Electronic Ignition > We have a single mag and an electronic ignition. I think this offers > the best of both worlds and redundancy. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for > building > is OVER. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > -------Original Message------- > > mags, if I can get them rebuilt, Ie. Parts' replace the mag (dual > ignition) > > for a electronic ignition (single) > > Thoughts??? > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:42:39 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> Electronic Ignition To: Message-ID: <437D156F.000003.01636@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Two completely separate systems. I don't know whether or not they work together", but we will run them together because it would not be prudent to be running one, have it quit, and forget to turn on the other one. When we turn one of them off, you cannot notice any difference, so I guess they are sort of working "together". The electronic is the low profile unit from Great Plains. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- Does that mean two different types/sets of plugs? And, are they easily timed to work together or are you running either/or? ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:50:35 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: KR> prop length To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <001701c5ebd1$b4a2d670$eea672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Forgive me if this sounds stupid, but if one had an extra wide frontal area, wouldn't you need a bit of lenght to get the prop into clean air? I have been toying with the idea of a three bladed,..just for looks and wondered if it were smaller in diameter, would I not lose efficiency? And at what point, as you gain in blades, would the wash from one blade interfere with another? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Rainey" To: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: KR> prop length > According to the author on "How to Make Propellers", take the desired > 2 > blade length and multiply it by the constant .933 for a 3 blade length > conversion, or .86 times the 2 blade length for a 4 blade conversion, and > you will get the "same " performance from the reduced length/more blades. > A 60 inch 2 blade, will be 55.98 inch 3 blade, or 56 inches; 4 blade will > be 51.6 or 52 inches. > > Multiple blades are quieter, and climb better with only a small > increase > in drag incurred. The big engine planes use multiple blades when ground > clearance prohibits the use of a longer blade. The reasons for using a 3 > or 4 bladed prop are: 1) increased ground clearance; 2) the need for > longer blades to harness the hp, but increased blade length causes the > ends to break the speed of sound; 3) inherently balanced by the multi > blade setup/easier balanced, quieter operation. > > > Colin Rainey > brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net > EarthLink Revolves Around You. _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:44:16 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> GPS To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <004901c5ebd9$37846020$3cf5e2d1@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Frank I bought an old Lowrance Worldmap 1000 from a boat for 80 dollars. Lowrance doesn't make them anymore since they figured out that if they change the name to Airmap 1000 they can sell it for a bundle more than a boat owner will shell out. Way cool moving map and huge screen so a magnifying glass isn't needed to see what's on the screen. Not color but the money saved can be better used on radios the way I figure. A quick check of the local boatyards or e-bay under marine section yields a load of treasures that are easily adapted to aircraft usage. Actually been looking at the GPS steering servo from the boat to be used as a simple autopilot. If that servo is strong enough to steer a 40 foot yacht I'm sure it won't have a problem pointing a KR in the right direction. Doug Rupert Speaking of GPS, I saw a GPS unit that plugs into your computer for about $80 (US) the other day. Looks good for those who are using lap-tops in-flight. Frank ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:37:51 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Fuel Tank To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <007301c5ebe9$12ac5b80$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Thanks Larry You know I just wish I could weld period.I can do alright with a stick welder,but that is it.The welder I was talking about at work just bought a new tig welder and trying to get some side work.He is real good and I think it just makes since to weld the tanks up instead of using pro seal.Sooner or later a pro seal tank may leak,but a talk welded right and pressure tested should last a long time. Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:50:26 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> pix and report from Corvair College 9 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008901c5ebea$d4a6c120$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Is it just my computer or did anyone else not get the pictures that go with the story..... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:41:01 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Prop Clearance - Larger wheels/tires/tyres To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001f01c5ebe9$844440a0$b8a9443d@pii433> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Phil, I know, it increases weight, but it does help a little and gives you some rough-ground options... Frank ------- And very expensive. I can not add a larger wheel to the nose strut, due to the size of the fork. I would have to TRY and get a completly Larger front wheel assembly ( If available) Phillip Matheson VHPKR Australia. mathesonp@dodo.com.au http://www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ http://www.vw-engines.com/ http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:03:07 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> pix and report from Corvair College 9 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <009701c5ebec$9a36f7b0$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Disreguard the last email.It was me.Somehow I had my AD blocker turned on.... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:14:54 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> GPS To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have been using a Garmin Etrex Legend for a while. It works great and is a whole lot cheaper than aviation units. There was the time though when I was flying back from somewhere and the weather started looking pretty bad. I checked the AWOS at a nearby airport and got the dreaded "Lightning in all sectors" in the comments section just as I saw a bolt that was probably 30 miles away but looked like it was right by wingtip. The thunderstorms in Florida pop up out of nowhere pretty quick sometimes. As I was franticly typing in the name of the closest town to the airport since the airports are not in the database on the unit and hoping I could fly towards the town and see the airport I was wishing that I had sprung the extra couple hundred bucks for a GPS with an aviation database. That is not the first time I had wished that either. I will have a 396 before next summer's thunderstorm season with XM weather. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Doug Rupert Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:44 PM To: 'KRnet' Subject: RE: KR> GPS Frank I bought an old Lowrance Worldmap 1000 from a boat for 80 dollars. Lowrance doesn't make them anymore since they figured out that if they change the name to Airmap 1000 they can sell it for a bundle more than a boat owner will shell out. Way cool moving map and huge screen so a magnifying glass isn't needed to see what's on the screen. Not color but the money saved can be better used on radios the way I figure. A quick check of the local boatyards or e-bay under marine section yields a load of treasures that are easily adapted to aircraft usage. Actually been looking at the GPS steering servo from the boat to be used as a simple autopilot. If that servo is strong enough to steer a 40 foot yacht I'm sure it won't have a problem pointing a KR in the right direction. Doug Rupert Speaking of GPS, I saw a GPS unit that plugs into your computer for about $80 (US) the other day. Looks good for those who are using lap-tops in-flight. Frank _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:22:05 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> GPS To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <044d01c5ebef$4158b1d0$7900a8c0@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for the story Brian. I was swaying with the idear of getting something cheaper and you just convinced me to get the "real thing" when it comes to GPS for aviation. Logging on to Garmin WEB page now...................................................... :-) regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Kraut To: KRnet Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: RE: KR> GPS I have been using a Garmin Etrex Legend for a while. It works great and is a whole lot cheaper than aviation units. There was the time though when I was flying back from somewhere and the weather started looking pretty bad. I checked the AWOS at a nearby airport and got the dreaded "Lightning in all sectors" in the comments section just as I saw a bolt that was probably 30 miles away but looked like it was right by wingtip. The thunderstorms in Florida pop up out of nowhere pretty quick sometimes. As I was franticly typing in the name of the closest town to the airport since the airports are not in the database on the unit and hoping I could fly towards the town and see the airport I was wishing that I had sprung the extra couple hundred bucks for a GPS with an aviation database. That is not the first time I had wished that either. I will have a 396 before next summer's thunderstorm season with XM weather. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:32:52 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> GPS To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The big lesson I learned is that you need to plug in the positions of every airport you could pass including the ones you might divert to if you go on a trip with a non-aviation GPS. For someone like me that flies all over the place and lives in Florida with god only knows how many airports it takes forever and you still don't have the restricted areas, class B and C airspace, etc., etc., etc. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Barry Kruyssen Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:22 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> GPS Thanks for the story Brian. I was swaying with the idear of getting something cheaper and you just convinced me to get the "real thing" when it comes to GPS for aviation. Logging on to Garmin WEB page now...................................................... :-) regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Kraut To: KRnet Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: RE: KR> GPS I have been using a Garmin Etrex Legend for a while. It works great and is a whole lot cheaper than aviation units. There was the time though when I was flying back from somewhere and the weather started looking pretty bad. I checked the AWOS at a nearby airport and got the dreaded "Lightning in all sectors" in the comments section just as I saw a bolt that was probably 30 miles away but looked like it was right by wingtip. The thunderstorms in Florida pop up out of nowhere pretty quick sometimes. As I was franticly typing in the name of the closest town to the airport since the airports are not in the database on the unit and hoping I could fly towards the town and see the airport I was wishing that I had sprung the extra couple hundred bucks for a GPS with an aviation database. That is not the first time I had wished that either. I will have a 396 before next summer's thunderstorm season with XM weather. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 468 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================