From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 482 Date: 11/24/2005 9:00:21 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Prop position on C 90 (Jim) 2. Re: Stainless steel for WAF bolts (Jim) 3. KR 1 web page (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 4. Re: Prop position on C 90 (Kenneth Wiltrout) 5. Re: question for Mark Jones (Mark Jones) 6. RE: Richard's KR1 (Ryan) 7. Re: question for Mark Jones (Ron Smith) 8. Re: question for Mark Jones (Mark Jones) 9. Re: Prop position on C 90 (Jim) 10. Joe Horton 1st Flight Photo (Mark Jones) 11. Re: Prop position on C 90 (Kenneth Wiltrout) 12. another day, another flight... (Mark Langford) 13. Re: another day, another flight... (Bob Glidden) 14. Re: another day, another flight... (Dan Heath) 15. Re: another day, another flight... (Mark Langford) 16. RE: performance numbers? (Brian Kraut) 17. O-200 EGT (Brian Kraut) 18. Re: another day, another flight... (Mark Jones) 19. Re: O-200 EGT (Larry&Sallie Flesner) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:08:08 -0600 From: "Jim" Subject: Re: KR> Prop position on C 90 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001601c5f0ef$bbfcbd00$83306644@D7WNCM71> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I don't know the position however call a engine shop and they will know . I would not fly in a airplane that didn't have the propeller properly indexed I know of one instance of an airplane that had a propeller cut to the wrong length and the prop developed a crack 17" from the tip he was very lucky to have been able to get the airplane on the ground . Do yourself a favor and don"t give it a whirl untill you have the prop properly indexed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. D. Mueller" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: KR> Prop position on C 90 > Hey everyone: does anyone know at what position a metal prop should be > relative to cylinder number and stroke? I have an overhauled prop > reinstalled on a C 90 that has a little vibration @2200. The prop is > true and tracks right on. It didn't have this vibration before. So I > think I need to reposition it. Anyone want to give it a whirl? ; - ) > > > > Thanks > > > > L. D. Mueller > > 521 North Madison St. > > Cuba City, WI 53807 > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:19:26 -0600 From: "Jim" Subject: Re: KR>Stainless steel for WAF bolts To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003b01c5f0f1$4fecc9f0$83306644@D7WNCM71> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original AN bolt threads are rolled on to the bolt not cut into the metal to avoid developing cracks the bolt strength may be the same however the threads are not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Kruyssen" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:11 PM Subject: Re: KR>Stainless steel for WAF bolts >I would NOT use stainless steel bolts on my WAFs as it is softer than >AN >bolts. > (in my opinion) > > regards > Barry Kruyssen > Cairns, Australia > RAA 19-3873 > > kr2@BigPond.com > http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jodel@alphalink.com.au > To: KRnet > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:52 AM > Subject: Re: KR> performance numbers? > > > Hi all > just a ? that has probibly been answered befor in regards to the > WAF. Has anyone used stanless steel in say marin grade stanless. I'm > gesing that the stanless would be strong enought or would it need to > be resized to give > the same strenght as the 4130 steel. > > Albert. > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:54:46 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: KR> KR 1 web page To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051124065253.03308d50@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed >Did you know there is a dedicated web page to the KR-1 on EAA web site? >Here is the link: >http://www.airventuremuseum.org/collection/aircraft/Rand%20Robinson%20K >R-1.asp#TopOfPage > >Mark Jones (N886MJ) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Did everyone catch the author of the web page at the very bottom? Good job Mark !!!!! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:42:59 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> Prop position on C 90 To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051124134259.15941.qmail@web84111.mail.dcn.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Guys------------Just signed back on the net after a year or so, I'm sure this was talked about but do wooden props need to be indexed as well? I've been flying N6399U for 5 years now and never heard anything about indexing before. Jim wrote:I don't know the position however call a engine shop and they will know . I would not fly in a airplane that didn't have the propeller properly indexed I know of one instance of an airplane that had a propeller cut to the wrong length and the prop developed a crack 17" from the tip he was very lucky to have been able to get the airplane on the ground . Do yourself a favor and don"t give it a whirl untill you have the prop properly indexed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. D. Mueller" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:57 AM Subject: KR> Prop position on C 90 > Hey everyone: does anyone know at what position a metal prop should be > relative to cylinder number and stroke? I have an overhauled prop > reinstalled on a C 90 that has a little vibration @2200. The prop is > true and tracks right on. It didn't have this vibration before. So I > think I need to reposition it. Anyone want to give it a whirl? ; - ) > > > > Thanks > > > > L. D. Mueller > > 521 North Madison St. > > Cuba City, WI 53807 > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 08:46:55 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> question for Mark Jones To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000501c5f105$ea939c40$6501a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron, Unfortunately, Netscape, who was the host of the free web site, has overloaded their system and access to those web sites are virtually impossible. They have not been accessible for quite some time. This is why I got fed up with Netscape and bought me space on a host site where I can have a reliable web site which is now www.flykr2s.com The fortunate thing is that I have a copy of the sites you are inquiring about on my hard drive but have not had the time to make a new web page for them. Hopefully, I can get to it one of these days. If there a certain one you would like to view, I can send it to you as an attachment. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:55 PM Subject: KR> question for Mark Jones > Hi Mark, > > You had some guys linked to your old web site, like > Bob Glidden, and Joe Horton. They no longer work. > > Is there any way to fix those links? > > Ron Smith > Kr2ssxl > Cypress Ca U.S.A. > mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:59:53 -0800 From: "Ryan" Subject: KR> RE: Richard's KR1 To: Message-ID: <200511241459.jAOExrDp007334@ms-smtp-02-eri0.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Richard Shirleys KR1 Has a 130 HP. 3300cc Jabaru engine now, soon to be flying. Ryan http://groups.yahoo.com/group/KR-1_Aircraft/ ============================================================= Message: 9 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:16:32 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Richard's KR1 To: OZ, you are right, it has to be one of the finest KRs ever built. I understand that he has an even bigger engine in it now. I think it is an 0200. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 13:04:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith Subject: Re: KR> question for Mark Jones To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051124210458.32816.qmail@web81711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 --- Mark Jones wrote: > Ron, > Unfortunately, Netscape, who was the host of the > free web site, has > overloaded their system and access to those web > sites are virtually > impossible. They have not been accessible for quite > some time. This is why I > got fed up with Netscape and bought me space on a > host site where I can have > a reliable web site which is now www.flykr2s.com The > fortunate thing is that > I have a copy of the sites you are inquiring about > on my hard drive but have > not had the time to make a new web page for them. > Hopefully, I can get to it > one of these days. If there a certain one you would > like to view, I can send > it to you as an attachment. > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > Wales, WI USA > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > Visit my NEW > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com > > > Hi Mark, There is no immediate need on my part. I just like looking through the Krnet at all of the projects, to pick up ideas. It seems as though, at each stage of my project, I can go back through the photos and gleen some tid bit of info. I sure would like to see some photos of Joe Hortons finished plane and any other photos he might have of his engine and firefall forward. I am talking as many photos of my project as I can to try and be helpful to any fellow builders, that follow. That is what the KRnet is all about right!? Ron Smith Kr2ssxl Cypress Ca U.S.A. mercedesmann@yahoo.com http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:10:08 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> question for Mark Jones To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b701c5f13b$73cff460$6501a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ron, I would like some photos of Joe's finished plane also. If he would send me some, I would get them on a web site for all to see. I think he is having too much fun flying right now to worry about photos. Joe send me some photos with captions and I will get yours back on line. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Smith" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 3:04 PM Subject: Re: KR> question for Mark Jones > > > --- Mark Jones wrote: > > > Ron, > > Unfortunately, Netscape, who was the host of the > > free web site, has > > overloaded their system and access to those web > > sites are virtually > > impossible. They have not been accessible for quite > > some time. This is why I > > got fed up with Netscape and bought me space on a > > host site where I can have > > a reliable web site which is now www.flykr2s.com The > > fortunate thing is that > > I have a copy of the sites you are inquiring about > > on my hard drive but have > > not had the time to make a new web page for them. > > Hopefully, I can get to it > > one of these days. If there a certain one you would > > like to view, I can send > > it to you as an attachment. > > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ) > > Wales, WI USA > > E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com > > Visit my NEW > > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com > > > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > There is no immediate need on my part. I just like > looking through the Krnet at all of the projects, to > pick up ideas. It seems as though, at each stage of my > project, I can go back through the photos and gleen > some tid bit of info. > > I sure would like to see some photos of Joe Hortons > finished plane and any other photos he might have of > his engine and firefall forward. > > I am talking as many photos of my project as I can to > try and be helpful to any fellow builders, that > follow. > > That is what the KRnet is all about right!? > > Ron Smith > Kr2ssxl > Cypress Ca U.S.A. > mercedesmann@yahoo.com > http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:12:27 -0600 From: "Jim" Subject: Re: KR> Prop position on C 90 To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001d01c5f13b$c6320ae0$83306644@D7WNCM71> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I don,t know about wooden propellers but a metal prop can run into a bad harmonic vibration if not match to an engine I'm building a KR-2s I'm planning on putting a wooden prop on it also and Ill be checking on proper indexing on it. My understanding of propellers is that the wood props don't have the same problems that metal props do however I'm not going to leave that to chance. Who ever made your prop should have that information . The friend of mine that had the problem had been flying his airplane for quite a long time also and noticed a strange vibration and landed trying to figure it out that when he found the crack he called the manufacture and they did some testing with sensors on the same prop and said it had been cut to the worst length for that engine prop combination Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Wiltrout" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: KR> Prop position on C 90 > Hi Guys------------Just signed back on the net after a year or so, I'm > sure this was talked about but do wooden props need to be indexed as well? > I've been flying N6399U for 5 years now and never heard anything about > indexing before. > > Jim wrote:I don't know the position however call a > engine shop and they will know . > I would not fly in a airplane that didn't have the propeller properly > indexed I know of one instance of an airplane that had a propeller cut to > the wrong length and the prop developed a crack 17" from the tip he was > very > lucky to have been able to get the airplane on the ground . Do yourself a > favor and don"t give it a whirl untill you have the prop properly indexed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L. D. Mueller" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:57 AM > Subject: KR> Prop position on C 90 > > >> Hey everyone: does anyone know at what position a metal prop should be >> relative to cylinder number and stroke? I have an overhauled prop >> reinstalled on a C 90 that has a little vibration @2200. The prop is true >> and tracks right on. It didn't have this vibration before. So I think I >> need >> to reposition it. Anyone want to give it a whirl? ; - ) >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> L. D. Mueller >> >> 521 North Madison St. >> >> Cuba City, WI 53807 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:22:03 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Joe Horton 1st Flight Photo To: "Corvaircraft" , "KR Net" Message-ID: <00ce01c5f13d$1d9302c0$6501a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The following link is to a photo of Joe Horton after his first flight. Beautiful plane Joe. Congratulations...... http://flykr2s.com/joehorton.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:25:15 -0800 (PST) From: Kenneth Wiltrout Subject: Re: KR> Prop position on C 90 To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051124232515.43965.qmail@web84110.mail.dcn.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 OK Thanks Jim wrote:I don,t know about wooden propellers but a metal prop can run into a bad harmonic vibration if not match to an engine I'm building a KR-2s I'm planning on putting a wooden prop on it also and Ill be checking on proper indexing on it. My understanding of propellers is that the wood props don't have the same problems that metal props do however I'm not going to leave that to chance. Who ever made your prop should have that information . The friend of mine that had the problem had been flying his airplane for quite a long time also and noticed a strange vibration and landed trying to figure it out that when he found the crack he called the manufacture and they did some testing with sensors on the same prop and said it had been cut to the worst length for that engine prop combination Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Wiltrout" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 7:42 AM Subject: Re: KR> Prop position on C 90 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 19:32:59 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> another day, another flight... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <005401c5f160$2bd85740$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" KRNetHeads, This morning was planned as the kids' first flights in the KR. First 10 year old Claire got the first turn, flying down to my father's farm in south Alabama, 230 miles to the south, with 12 year old son Jordan getting his first ride back. I was worried that the winds were going to be high when I got back, so I planned to get back just before sunset when things have usually settled down a little. Yesterday I put the final touches on the "heater from hell", which put out an impressive amount of heat into the cabin. Just to be safe, I mounted one of those el cheapo button type of CO detectors in the panel just before we left. As I was warming the engine up at the end of the runway, Claire was asking what each instrument did, and every field of the EIS, etc. Then she got to the CO detector and said "Dad, it's already black". Not a good sign! So I taxied back to the hangar, duct taped my aluminum cover back over the inlet duct, ripped out the weatherstripping I put in last night, and off we went. It was a great trip down at 9500', and a gorgeously clear day. With the tailwind, we were doing 175-180 most of the way, and you could easily see 50 miles. It turns out that Claire can maintain heading and altitude better than I can, so she flew about half way down. That's kindof neat, because now I have an intelligent autopilot that can take over while I do stuff like take pictures ( http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/051124038m.jpg ). The first landing attempt was a little hot, which resulted in a touchdown and a subsequent liftoff/glide that I thought wasn't going to end before the end of the 3600' grass runway, so I cleaned it up and went around for another attempt. The next one was pretty good. After lunch I gave the main farm hand a ride around the area. He's 185 pounds, so I wasn't too worried, and that worked out great. I really didn't notice much difference in the performance, but it may be that I'm oblivious. The landing was the best of the three, so maybe some extra weight helps! Next I flew Jordan back home, but this time with a stiff headwind. The best we could do at 8500' was 125 mph, so I came down to 6500' and got 130 or so. We barely made it back to M38 before dark. Another 10 minutes and I'd have landed somewhere else earlier. It was an airline approach, straight in (since I didn't have any time to waste), and it was a greaser. A perfect end to a perfect day. Funny thing was that neither of them did any kid of PIO (pilot induced oscillation) whatsover when they were flying the plane. I discovered that with the extra weight and full fuel, I finally get the middle of the trim range too. Looks like I need to alter my horizontal stab incidence so the trim is perfect when I'm by myself, and set it up to need down trim with the rare passenger. I measured it the other night, and somehow it's not the -.75 degrees that I thought it was...it's more like -.4 degrees, so -.75 may get me there after all. I got home two and a half hours ago, and Jeanie and Claire still aren't here. It's nice to have my own personal time machine. I guess it's time to go check all of my exhaust donuts... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:56:42 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> another day, another flight... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <006e01c5f163$7c17d480$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Nice job Mark I could not get the picture to open up. Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:12:35 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> another day, another flight... To: Message-ID: <43867313.000001.03516@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mark, That picture has got to make it all worth while, if nothing else does. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:50:09 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> another day, another flight... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <008401c5f173$55b53840$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dan Heath wrote: > That picture has got to make it all worth while, if nothing else does. You're right about that! I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that's a really cool picture. It's probably been five years ago that Claire hollered "I call first flight!" She's the one in the family that came down to check on construction, always wanted to sit in the plane, and asked lots of questions about what I was building. She's even into engines! She's also got dibs on the 16 valve 2.0L Scirocco. She had more personality at age five than I'll ever have, and smarter too. Not just straight A's, but more like straight 100's. She's going places... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:51:33 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> performance numbers? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Turns out that my friend was going to use the Ivo prop on the O-200. I know about your luck with the Ivo. I'll see if any of the other people on the Midget Mustang group know of another brand available. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Orma Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:22 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> performance numbers? I sure wish Santa could bring me a constant speed prop for Christmas. :-) Larry does anyone make one for the O-200??? Orma _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:55:27 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> O-200 EGT To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone else with an O-200 notice that the EGT gets about 100 degrees hotter when throttled back than at full throttle? I have noticed that when I cruise at my normal altitude around 9,000' at full throttle (about 65% power) that my peak EGT is a little over 1,400 degrees. If I just pull the throttle back to 3/4 or 1/2 it goes up around 1,500. I have not determined yet if the carb is just leaning out in the mid range or if it is just normal to have hotter EGTs in the mid range. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:04:31 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> another day, another flight... To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <011401c5f175$574a9360$6501a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Marks complete post did not load for me nor did I get the photo. Someone send me Mark's post again please. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 7:32 PM Subject: KR> another day, another flight... > KRNetHeads, > > This morning was planned as the kids' first flights in the KR. First 10 year old Claire got the first turn, flying down to my father's farm in south Alabama, 230 miles to the south, with 12 year old son Jordan getting his first ride back. I was worried that the winds were going to be high when I got back, so I planned to get back just before sunset when things have usually settled down a little. > > Yesterday I put the final touches on the "heater from hell", which put out an impressive amount of heat into the cabin. Just to be safe, I mounted one of those el cheapo button type of CO detectors in the panel just before we left. As I was warming the engine up at the end of the runway, Claire was asking what each instrument did, and every field of the EIS, etc. Then she got to the CO detector and said "Dad, it's already black". Not a good sign! So I taxied back to the hangar, duct taped my aluminum cover back over the inlet duct, ripped out the weatherstripping I put in last night, and off we went. It was a great trip down at 9500', and a gorgeously clear day. With the tailwind, we were doing 175-180 most of the way, and you could easily see 50 miles. It turns out that Claire can maintain heading and altitude better than I can, so she flew about half way down. That's kindof neat, because now I have an intelligent autopilot that can take over while I do stuff like take pictu > > The first landing attempt was a little hot, which resulted in a touchdown and a subsequent liftoff/glide that I thought wasn't going to end before the end of the 3600' grass runway, so I cleaned it up and went around for another attempt. The next one was pretty good. After lunch I gave the main farm hand a ride around the area. He's 185 pounds, so I wasn't too worried, and that worked out great. I really didn't notice much difference in the performance, but it may be that I'm oblivious. The landing was the best of the three, so maybe some extra weight helps! > > Next I flew Jordan back home, but this time with a stiff headwind. The best we could do at 8500' was 125 mph, so I came down to 6500' and got 130 or so. We barely made it back to M38 before dark. Another 10 minutes and I'd have landed somewhere else earlier. It was an airline approach, straight in (since I didn't have any time to waste), and it was a greaser. A perfect end to a perfect day. Funny thing was that neither of them did any kid of PIO (pilot induced oscillation) whatsover when they were flying the plane. I discovered that with the extra weight and full fuel, I finally get the middle of the trim range too. Looks like I need to alter my horizontal stab incidence so the trim is perfect when I'm by myself, and set it up to need down trim with the rare passenger. I measured it the other night, and somehow it's not the -.75 degrees that I thought it was...it's more like -.4 degrees, so -.75 may get me there after all. > > I got home two and a half hours ago, and Jeanie and Claire still aren't here. It's nice to have my own personal time machine. I guess it's time to go check all of my exhaust donuts... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford > email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 22:08:33 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: Re: KR> O-200 EGT To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051124220647.03b06cb0@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed At 09:55 PM 11/24/2005, you wrote: >Does anyone else with an O-200 notice that the EGT gets about 100 degrees >hotter when throttled back than at full throttle? >Brian Kraut ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My EGT usually runs in the 1300 to 1400 range but stays pretty steady, depending on the mixture setting and not the throttle setting. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 482 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================