From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 488 Date: 11/28/2005 9:00:30 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Attachment (Doug Rupert) 2. (no subject) (patrusso) 3. RE: Joe Horton 1st Flight Photo (Golden, Kevin) 4. mixture leaning/was engine heat (Oscar Zuniga) 5. R?f. : KR> (no subject) (Serge VIDAL) 6. Re: R?f. : KR> shrinking foam (patrusso) 7. Re: music (Barry Kruyssen) 8. Re: music (Dan Heath) 9. Priming - What If? (Dan Heath) 10. Re: Priming - What If? (Mark Langford) 11. Re: Corvair engine for sale (Mark Langford) 12. Re: Priming - What If? (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 13. Re: Corvair engine for sale (JAMES FERRIS) 14. Re: R?f. : KR> shrinking foam (Keith & Martha Crawford) 15. Re: Corvair engine for sale (Scott William) 16. Primer solinoid (Colin Rainey) 17. Re: Corvair engine for sale (rvz) 18. RE: Priming - What If? (Brian Kraut) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:20:14 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> Attachment To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <002701c5f3db$6bd425e0$bc04e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Something to do with my anti-virus program I believe. Every once in a while I get one from others on the list as well. Doug Why is there an attachmeni to my recieved message ?? Virg -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release Date: 11/24/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:08:22 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: KR> (no subject) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00b901c5f414$6de95a60$18a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Brought my plane back to the house shop for the winter. Temp was twenty two. A coat of ice over every surface. Canopy cover frozen solid to the surface. The problem; The foam seems to have shrunk every where on the tail and wing surfaces. Please note, I used blue and pink styrofam insulation thru out, with West system epoxy. Every wood spar is visibly outlined with the foam recessed as much as 1/32". Tap testing today revealed NO voids. Glass adhered to foam and wood very well. It looks as if every wood part swelled, but that is not likely on the box wing spar. Must be the foam, right??? ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:52:37 -0500 From: "Golden, Kevin" Subject: RE: KR> Joe Horton 1st Flight Photo To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" That is one gooood lookin KR!!! Kevin. -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+kevin.golden=churchdwight.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+kevin.golden=churchdwight.com@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 3:22 PM To: Corvaircraft; KR Net Subject: KR> Joe Horton 1st Flight Photo The following link is to a photo of Joe Horton after his first flight. Beautiful plane Joe. Congratulations...... http://flykr2s.com/joehorton.html Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html *The information contained in this message may be confidential and/or subject to legal privilege, and is for the use of the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination or copying of the information in this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message.* ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:32:51 -0600 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> mixture leaning/was engine heat To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'll toss out a snip from William Wynne's "broken crank" webpage since it deals with leaning the mixture and may be of interest not just to KR/Vair operators: ========================== When leaning, he would lean until he saw a decrease in airspeed, and then slightly enrichen it. The evidence at teardown showed that either this leaning technique or his Ellison EFS-3A installation was the cause of lean operation and evidence of detonation. In many installations, especially aircraft without mufflers or flown by pilots with headsets, detonation in the plane cannot be heard. It is important that pilots trained in flying Cessna 150s to lean the aircraft until the engine runs slightly rough and then enrichen it slightly, should not use this technique on a Corvair engine, especially below 8,000 feet. The difference is simple: a Continental or Lycoming with a compression ratio in the 7:1 range, when excessively leaned from cruise power settings, will experience a lean misfire in the cylinder. A lean misfire is a harmless event compared to detonation. Here, the air/fuel mixture has reached a point where it will not ignite. Conversely, leaning an engine with a 9:1 compression ratio like a Corvair has the potential to detonate the engine long before it lean misfires. This is aggravated by high available density, as in low altitudes or throttle openings yielding MAPs more than 24". Corvair engines can be leaned, it just requires an EGT and common sense. The contribution of detonation to crank failure will be the hardest factor to replicate, model or evaluate. But, successful builders will avoid detonation for a multitude of reasons, not just its potential contribution to crank failures. ============================== Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:53:47 +0100 From: Serge VIDAL Subject: R?f. : KR> (no subject) To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Two questions: 1 - Is it symmetrical? (I mean, is it the same on the undersurface of the wings? 2 - Does that recess also show at the intersection between the spars and the ribs, or is it just between two ribs? Serge Vidal KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" Paris, France "patrusso" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-11-28 13:08 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-11-28 13:08 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : KR> (no subject) Brought my plane back to the house shop for the winter. Temp was twenty two. A coat of ice over every surface. Canopy cover frozen solid to the surface. The problem; The foam seems to have shrunk every where on the tail and wing surfaces. Please note, I used blue and pink styrofam insulation thru out, with West system epoxy. Every wood spar is visibly outlined with the foam recessed as much as 1/32". Tap testing today revealed NO voids. Glass adhered to foam and wood very well. It looks as if every wood part swelled, but that is not likely on the box wing spar. Must be the foam, right??? _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:31:11 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: R?f. : KR> shrinking foam To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002301c5f441$87148e10$22a672d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Good thought. It looks okay on the undersurfaces, can barely see the spar outlines. On the top, both wing spars are clearly outlined and the rudder post and Horiz stab and elevator spars are neatly visible. Even the trim motor buried in the stab is markedly outlined. All this happened in the past two weeks. Can't blame the sun. We have had two weeks of cold weather. I confess I did not paint the plane white. It is battleship grey and I wondered if the sun would affect it. My ribs are buried under the outer wing skin and there is no visible problems there. Oh well, back to the drawing board! Did want to do major changes to it this winter anyway. Anyone out there have a sonerai canopy for sale? Or similar? One of the changes I want to do is have a long canopy so that when I opened it I could see my baggage compartment and inner rear fuselage as well as the back of the instrument panel. I have a stretched KR2 narrowed down to one seat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Serge VIDAL" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 8:53 AM Subject: Réf. : KR> (no subject) > Two questions: > > 1 - Is it symmetrical? (I mean, is it the same on the undersurface of > the wings? 2 - Does that recess also show at the intersection between > the spars and the ribs, or is it just between two ribs? > > Serge Vidal > KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud" > Paris, France > > > > > > "patrusso" > > Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net > 2005-11-28 13:08 > Veuillez répondre à KRnet > Remis le : 2005-11-28 13:08 > > > Pour : "KRnet" > cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) > Objet : KR> (no subject) > > > > Brought my plane back to the house shop for the winter. Temp was > twenty two. A coat of ice over every surface. Canopy cover frozen > solid to the surface. The problem; The foam seems to have shrunk > every where on the tail and wing surfaces. Please note, I used blue > and pink styrofam insulation thru out, with West system epoxy. Every > wood spar is visibly outlined with the foam recessed as much as 1/32". > Tap testing today revealed NO voids. Glass adhered to foam and wood > very well. It looks as if every wood part swelled, but that is not > likely on the box wing spar. Must be the foam, right??? > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:56:36 +1000 From: "Barry Kruyssen" Subject: Re: KR> music To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000201c5f461$a57d6230$0c06070a@technologyonecorp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Music input and intercom are standard features on the XCom radio (see my WEB site for a link to them and no I am not a share holder and don't get commission) regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Kraut To: KRnet Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: RE: KR> music On a KR the best way to get music is usually to add an intercom with a music input. I had a Flightcom 403MC in my KR and it worked great for about $200, not to mention the intercom function of it. I bought a second car cradle for my XM radio and mounted it back behind the seat in the baggage compartment. The antenna worked fine under the turtledeck. On my Midget Mustang I just bought a set of Lightspeed ANR headsets with a music input. I am currently using a hundred dollar 2 gig MP3 player I got at Best Buy and it works good. It is also nice because I can bring it in different planes with me. Before I had the headsets I was using the ear buds under my regular headset and that sort of worked. I have heard that if you get the portable music players that you don't want to get the type with the hard drives in them. The heads ride over the disc on a film of air a few thousandths of an inch over the disc. At high altitudes they will skip and be useless. You don't have that problem with the digital memory players. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Lee Van Dyke Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 4:03 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> VW rpms Group, Although my day yesterday was a great time, there are a few housekeeping things to take car of. 1. Airspeed was about 120 +/- (could be faster) 2. RPM's 3300 max at level flight 3150 @ climb out. 3. Fuel consumption is about 5 gal per hour ( I have a Super POSA ) I can lean it out in the air. 4. No music for the 1:20 trip. What is an easy inexpensive way to get music/ipod/satalite radio piped into the headset?? 5. CHT is a little high on #1 cyl. My prop that I have now is a Culver 52/45 this might need to be repitched, per GP this might help with the RPM's and the temp. I have an HAPI 1835 VW with Scat heads Any Ideas from the VW guys out there?????? Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:07:49 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> music To: Message-ID: <438B7FB5.000001.03660@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Only problem is that the price keeps going up and up. That is what I am going to get, One day. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- From: Barry Kruyssen Date: 11/28/05 16:22:03 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> music Music input and intercom are standard features on the XCom radio (see my WEB site for a link to them and no I am not a share holder and don't get commission) regards Barry Kruyssen Cairns, Australia RAA 19-3873 kr2@BigPond.com http://www.users.bigpond.com/kr2/kr2.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Kraut To: KRnet Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:04 AM Subject: RE: KR> music On a KR the best way to get music is usually to add an intercom with a music input. I had a Flightcom 403MC in my KR and it worked great for about $200, not to mention the intercom function of it. I bought a second car cradle for my XM radio and mounted it back behind the seat in the baggage compartment. The antenna worked fine under the turtledeck. On my Midget Mustang I just bought a set of Lightspeed ANR headsets with a music input. I am currently using a hundred dollar 2 gig MP3 player I got at Best Buy and it works good. It is also nice because I can bring it in different planes with me. Before I had the headsets I was using the ear buds under my regular headset and that sort of worked. I have heard that if you get the portable music players that you don't want to get the type with the hard drives in them. The heads ride over the disc on a film of air a few thousandths of an inch over the disc. At high altitudes they will skip and be useless. You don't have that problem with the digital memory players. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Lee Van Dyke Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 4:03 PM To: KRnet Subject: KR> VW rpms Group, Although my day yesterday was a great time, there are a few housekeeping things to take car of. 1. Airspeed was about 120 +/- (could be faster) 2. RPM's 3300 max at level flight 3150 @ climb out. 3. Fuel consumption is about 5 gal per hour ( I have a Super POSA ) I can lean it out in the air. 4. No music for the 1:20 trip. What is an easy inexpensive way to get music/ipod/satalite radio piped into the headset?? 5. CHT is a little high on #1 cyl. My prop that I have now is a Culver 52/45 this might need to be repitched, per GP this might help with the RPM's and the temp. I have an HAPI 1835 VW with Scat heads Any Ideas from the VW guys out there?????? Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:19:27 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Priming - What If? To: Message-ID: <438B826F.000005.03660@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What if you used the priming solenoid with an injection just behind the carburetor, or other desired locations. Connect the solenoid to a switch that only can be hot if the starter switch is hot. When you want prime, flip on the switch and when you engage the starter, the fuel flows and when you let go, it stops. Flip off the primer switch. That also gives you a safety factor that you will most likely not accidently engage the primer while in flight, and that you will not be dumping fuel in a place where it has no where to go. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:36:28 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Priming - What If? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <018e01c5f46c$30242e50$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dan Heath wrote: \> Flip off the primer switch. That also gives you a > safety factor that you will most likely not accidently engage the > primer while in flight, and that you will not be dumping fuel in a > place where it has no where to go. My primer switch is a momentary switch, so no chance of accidental engagement. I hold it in until the engine catches, and if it stumbles, I may give it a few more squirts to make sure it's going to keep running (we're talking around 30 degrees behavior here). Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:20:06 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Corvair engine for sale To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <01ae01c5f472$448c6d70$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Scott William wrote: > Mr. Langford will be aquiring this..... But wait. I started to feel guilty, since I still have one more under my work bench. I let Scott know that if somebody else closer to him needed it to get started on a Corvair conversion, let them have it, and that's what he's done. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:22:38 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: Re: KR> Priming - What If? To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051128180510.03933cf8@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > >My primer switch is a momentary switch, so no chance of accidental >engagement. Mark Langford +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I used the momentary switch like Mark as seen in the upper left corner of the panel at http://www.krnet.org/mvn2004/040929271.jpg It worked just fine with no accidental actuation. The advantage would be if you have a carb failure you could use the switch to give momentary bursts of primer to keep the engine running, maybe. I don't use my primer any more after the carb fire. I now use the accelerator pump in the carb and then only after I have the engine turning over with the starter. I'm thinking of using the primer solenoid and an extra facut fuel pump I have to install a "smoke system" in the exhaust. I could just press and hold the little red switch for smoke or maybe a "press on - press off" switch. HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE ?? !!!!! Come to think about it, during formation fly-bys I need my hand on the throttle. Best make it a "press on - press off" switch. Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:49:08 -0500 From: JAMES FERRIS Subject: Re: KR> Corvair engine for sale To: krnet@mylist.net Cc: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051128.194909.188.0.mijnil@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi scott! I'm over in Sanford Florida and if you still have that core for sale for $150.00? I will take it. Jim On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:02:30 -0800 (PST) Scott William writes: > > I have a DISASSEMBLED Corvair engine for sale. This > engine was one of two that I aquired while on my > search. It has no heads. The case number is T0203AE. > It came out of a 1969 Corvair. The crank is a standard > size 8409. The bell housing has been partially cut > accoring to the WIlliam Wynne manual (rough cut with > rough edges). Everything you don't need to fly has > been discarded, everything you do need is there, > except the heads. > > I live in the central west coast of Florida (near Clearwater). $150 > and it's yours. If you want it shipped, I can box it and ship it, you > pay the shipping. I am willing to drive it to a local airport > for you to fly in and pick up. Local is X39, ZPH, BKV, > or PIE. > > Email me off this site at scottLy@yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:35:19 -0500 From: Keith & Martha Crawford Subject: Re: R?f. : KR> shrinking foam To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I have heard of the skin being so air tight that when the air contracted it sucked the skin in and when it expanded it blew up like a balloon. do you have small weep holes that let it breathe? Keith Crawford ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:00:11 -0800 (PST) From: Scott William Subject: Re: KR> Corvair engine for sale To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051129020011.26195.qmail@web31513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 It think it's sold. The man should be picking it up Wednesday. If not, I'll let ya know. Thanks.. Scott --- JAMES FERRIS wrote: > Hi scott! I'm over in Sanford Florida and if you > still have that core for > sale for $150.00? I will take it. > Jim > On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:02:30 -0800 (PST) Scott > William > writes: > > > > I have a DISASSEMBLED Corvair engine for sale. > This > > engine was one of two that I aquired while on my > > search. It has no heads. The case number is > T0203AE. > > It came out of a 1969 Corvair. The crank is a > standard > > size 8409. The bell housing has been partially cut > > accoring to the WIlliam Wynne manual (rough cut > with > > rough edges). Everything you don't need to fly has > > been discarded, everything you do need is there, > > except the heads. > > > > I live in the central west coast of Florida (near Clearwater). $150 > > and it's yours. If you want it shipped, I can box it and ship it, > > you pay the shipping. I am willing to drive it to a local > airport > > for you to fly in and pick up. Local is X39, ZPH, > BKV, > > or PIE. > > > > Email me off this site at scottLy@yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:27:19 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> Primer solinoid To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-220051122932719444@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Dan and netters It would be very easy to wire a primer solenoid into the starter circuit for use only while starting. Use a Bosch or equivalent 20 amp relay, and wire the starter solenoid wire to the switched side of the relay, making a "Y" to be able to connect to both. The other side of the relay connects to ground. These should be the labeled 86 to 87 prongs on the relay. It will show a squiggle on the side diagram illustrating how it is the switched side of the relay. The other side is the 30 to 85 labeled circuits. The 30 prong gets battery continuous hot, and the 85 prong is to the primer solenoid. Ground the solenoid locally to the ground bus. When you push the switch to make the starter spin, the primer will also spray, and only while the starter is engaged. Best part is that by using these relays, you can use low amperage switches inside the cockpit, and keep all the high amperage loads in the engine compartment! Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:35:56 -0600 From: "rvz" Subject: Re: KR> Corvair engine for sale To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <059b01c5f496$0201c7b0$bddea8c0@big> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If anyone is looking for one in the Milwaukee area I have a complete, but torn down, engine that I'm not going to be using. It comes with a pile of KR-2 parts that I'm going to get rid of as well. It's all stuff (junk?) that came off a couple of projects too scarey to complete. Email me PRIVATELY, not on the list, and I'll explain in more detail what's there. Bob bob@wheelerexpress.com ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:44:16 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Priming - What If? To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My biggest concern would be that you need to keep cranking the engine if you get an intake fire. You would wind up just pumping fuel int the fire if the solenoid was connected to the starter switch. It also might be more likely to flood, which would cause it to be more likely to backfire, which would start your intake fire, etc. My O-200 has the prime nozzle right on top of the carb in the intake manifold spider (updraft carb). It works O.K. there, but not as good as if it had two nozzles by two of the heads. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 5:19 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Priming - What If? What if you used the priming solenoid with an injection just behind the carburetor, or other desired locations. Connect the solenoid to a switch that only can be hot if the starter switch is hot. When you want prime, flip on the switch and when you engage the starter, the fuel flows and when you let go, it stops. Flip off the primer switch. That also gives you a safety factor that you will most likely not accidently engage the primer while in flight, and that you will not be dumping fuel in a place where it has no where to go. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 488 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================