From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 494 Date: 12/2/2005 9:00:24 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: reason to own your own airplane (jeffyork40@qx.net) 2. X-Plane SIM of the KR (Dan Heath) 3. Re:X-Plane SIM of the KR (MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com) 4. Re:X-Plane SIM of the KR (Scott William) 5. Re: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR (MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com) 6. Re:X-Plane SIM of the KR (Dan Heath) 7. Re: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR (MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com) 8. New to the list & Vw engine (Darrell Haas) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 11:42:10 -0500 From: Subject: Re: KR> reason to own your own airplane To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <024601c5f75f$6a415ef0$6564a8c0@server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What a cool story. That encourages me to get the baffling work done, get the KR back in the air and get my 10 year old and 12 year old back up in the air. This would get them away from the none stop playstation and computer games. It also reminds me of years ago when I had a Varieze. I thought my boys would love it. Especially since my hanger neighbor referred to it as star wars fighter. The only thing is, because the seating was semi reclined, my son could not see out while sitting in the back. He hated it. It has been several months since I last took my boy up and we only went around the pattern. I guess as Jerry would say. " It's time to quit building" So I need to quit tearing it apart and just fly. Of course that Piper Cherokee I bought is also causing me to lose focus. Great Story Jeff York KR-2 Flying N839BG Home page http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ My KR-2 http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/ to see my KR-2 Email jeffyork40@qx.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oscar Zuniga" To: ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: KR> reason to own your own airplane > This is a good article, especially for those of us with youngsters. > Well worth reading! > > http://www.beechaeroclub.org/displayarticle324.html > > Oscar Zuniga > San Antonio, TX > mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com > website at http://www.flysquirrel.net > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 17:27:59 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> X-Plane SIM of the KR To: Message-ID: <4390CA6F.000017.02212@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am going to get a professional to put together a KR2 for the X-Plane SIM. I will be glad to share this file with anyone who wants it when it is finished. I need information like this: climb rates climb speed cruise speeds cruise power settings roll rates in degrees per second the percentage of aft stick you need to stall the plane The more info that I can give him, the better he can tune the plane. This is a ONE TIME shot, so send me your stuff and I will average them out, taking out those that may be way out. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:15:29 -0500 From: MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com Subject: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR To: KRnet Message-ID: <9aa1559a6606.9a66069aa155@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may be speaking out of turn or even about something that I know nothing about but if I'm not mistaken you would need those spec's for MSFS 2004 to build a true flying model. But in X-Plane you build the plane model and the sim tells you how it will fly. That's the big selling point of X-Plane, you can change the wing airfoil model or the size and shape of the body or tail and tell it what HP your engine is and it will demonstrate to you how it should fly. By the way, all the tools to do that come with X-Plane and the new scenery is a blast of reality. Check out the screen shots at (http://x-plane.com) Regards, Dan. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Heath Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 5:27 pm Subject: KR> X-Plane SIM of the KR > I am going to get a professional to put together a KR2 for the X- > Plane SIM. I will be glad to share this file with anyone who wants it > when it is finished. > > I need information like this: > > climb rates > climb speed > cruise speeds > cruise power settings > roll rates in degrees per second > the percentage of aft stick you need to stall the plane > > The more info that I can give him, the better he can tune the > plane. This > is a ONE TIME shot, so send me your stuff and I will average them out, > taking out those that may be way out. > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time > for building > is OVER. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:21:59 -0800 (PST) From: Scott William Subject: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR To: KRnet Message-ID: <20051202232159.90819.qmail@web31510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 If I'm not mistaken, those screen shots show the twin towers still standing. Scott --- MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com wrote: > I may be speaking out of turn or even about > something that I know > nothing about but if I'm not mistaken you would need > those spec's for > MSFS 2004 to build a true flying model. But in > X-Plane you build the > plane model and the sim tells you how it will fly. > That's the big > selling point of X-Plane, you can change the wing > airfoil model or the > size and shape of the body or tail and tell it what > HP your engine is > and it will demonstrate to you how it should fly. By > the way, all the > tools to do that come with X-Plane and the new > scenery is a blast of > reality. Check out the screen shots at > (http://x-plane.com) Regards, > Dan. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Heath > Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 5:27 pm > Subject: KR> X-Plane SIM of the KR > > > I am going to get a professional to put together a > KR2 for the X- > > Plane SIM. > > I will be glad to share this file with anyone who > wants it when it is > > finished. > > > > I need information like this: > > > > climb rates > > climb speed > > cruise speeds > > cruise power settings > > roll rates in degrees per second > > the percentage of aft stick you need to stall the > plane > > > > The more info that I can give him, the better he > can tune the > > plane. This > > is a ONE TIME shot, so send me your stuff and I > will average them > out, > > taking out those that may be way out. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on > the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING > and the time > > for building > > is OVER. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:24:55 -0500 From: MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com Subject: Re: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR To: KRnet Message-ID: <948c6894ae2c.94ae2c948c68@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah, we need to remember them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott William Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 6:21 pm Subject: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR > If I'm not mistaken, those screen shots show the twin > towers still standing. > > Scott > > --- MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com wrote: > > > I may be speaking out of turn or even about > > something that I know > > nothing about but if I'm not mistaken you would need > > those spec's for > > MSFS 2004 to build a true flying model. But in > > X-Plane you build the > > plane model and the sim tells you how it will fly. > > That's the big > > selling point of X-Plane, you can change the wing > > airfoil model or the > > size and shape of the body or tail and tell it what > > HP your engine is > > and it will demonstrate to you how it should fly. By > > the way, all the > > tools to do that come with X-Plane and the new > > scenery is a blast of > > reality. Check out the screen shots at > > (http://x-plane.com) Regards, > > Dan. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dan Heath > > Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 5:27 pm > > Subject: KR> X-Plane SIM of the KR > > > > > I am going to get a professional to put together a > > KR2 for the X- > > > Plane SIM. > > > I will be glad to share this file with anyone who > > wants it when it is > > > finished. > > > > > > I need information like this: > > > > > > climb rates > > > climb speed > > > cruise speeds > > > cruise power settings > > > roll rates in degrees per second > > > the percentage of aft stick you need to stall the > > plane > > > > > > The more info that I can give him, the better he > > can tune the > > > plane. This > > > is a ONE TIME shot, so send me your stuff and I > > will average them > > out, > > > taking out those that may be way out. > > > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on > > the pics > > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING > > and the time > > > for building > > > is OVER. > > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > _______________________________________ > > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to > > KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > > please see other KRnet info at > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at > > http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > __________________________________________ > Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl.yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 18:40:41 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR To: Message-ID: <4390DB79.000001.02200@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The person who is going to build the X-Plane KR2 has more experience and knowledge on this subject than almost anyone, so if he says that is the kind of information he needs, that is the kind of information I want to give him. The more and more accurate information that we can send in, the better the plane will be. I have X-Plane V 7 and tried to build one with Ameet, and we were only partially successful. This one will be a good one if I can get the information. All of what you said is true, but you have to give it the performance specs or it does not know how to act. Do you have X-Plane 8.2x? I gave up somewhere in 7. something., with the plane as it just kept getting worse. I think the whole system is much better now, but won't know until the new version arrives. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- But in X-Plane you build the plane model and the sim tells you how it will fly. That's the big selling point of X-Plane, you can change the wing airfoil model or the size and shape of the body or tail and tell it what HP your engine is and it will demonstrate to you how it should fly. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:55:02 -0500 From: MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com Subject: Re: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR To: KRnet Message-ID: <9a76f49a94bf.9a94bf9a76f4@columbus.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, that's great, it will save me the trouble of trying to build it myself this winter. I've got those versions of the KR-2 for X-plane version 7x from Ameet but now I've got version 8.21 so it needed to be upgraded. In all the years that I've been involved with the KR's, I've seen few that have been built to the same overall spec's. Regard's, Dan. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Heath Date: Friday, December 2, 2005 6:40 pm Subject: Re:KR>X-Plane SIM of the KR > The person who is going to build the X-Plane KR2 has more > experience and > knowledge on this subject than almost anyone, so if he says that > is the kind > of information he needs, that is the kind of information I want to > give him. > The more and more accurate information that we can send in, the > better the > plane will be. I have X-Plane V 7 and tried to build one with > Ameet, and we > were only partially successful. This one will be a good one if I > can get the > information. All of what you said is true, but you have to give it the > performance specs or it does not know how to act. Do you have X- > Plane 8.2x? > I gave up somewhere in 7. something., with the plane as it just > kept getting > worse. I think the whole system is much better now, but won't know > until the > new version arrives. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time > for building > is OVER. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > -------Original Message------- > > But in X-Plane you build the > > plane model and the sim tells you how it will fly. That's the big > > selling point of X-Plane, you can change the wing airfoil model or the > > size and shape of the body or tail and tell it what HP your engine is > > and it will demonstrate to you how it should fly. > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:57:49 -0800 From: "Darrell Haas" Subject: KR> New to the list & Vw engine To: Message-ID: <002001c5f7c6$1d092110$6501a8c0@your2o18it4ylc> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I saw some pictures of Steve Jones' plane while he was at Sun n Fun. I'd like to know where he got his vw type 4 engine and if there is anyone with a Kr2s near Troutdale, Oregon so I can get a close look at one. Please contact me of list site. Darrell Haas darrellhaas@verizon.net Fairview, Oregon ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 494 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================