From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 521 Date: 12/21/2005 9:00:19 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Newbie (not really!) (Phil Matheson) 2. Re: Newbie (not really!) (Kenneth B. Jones) 3. Re: Newbie (not really!) (Phil Matheson) 4. Re: Emergency landing (Joseph H. Horton) 5. Re: I love my KR2 (Joseph H. Horton) 6. Re: R?f. : KR> KRs around the world (patrusso) 7. RE: Closing carb (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 8. Re: Newbie (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 9. closing carb (Oscar Zuniga) 10. KR: closing carb (Shawn and Laura) 11. 72 degrees (Lee Van Dyke) 12. RE: Closing carb (Doug Rupert) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:06:01 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Newbie (not really!) To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <002e01c60672$59b413d0$15a3443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Marcel Welcome to the net. Sorry but I could not get you home page to work. May be mistake in the link?? Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:18:11 -0500 From: "Kenneth B. Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Newbie (not really!) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <022a01c60674$0c42b870$8d7ba8c0@oemcomputer> Try http://home.tiscali.nl/~driessen2/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Matheson" To: ; "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: Re: KR> Newbie (not really!) > Marcel > > Welcome to the net. > Sorry but I could not get you home page to work. > May be mistake in the link?? > > Phil Matheson > mathesonp@dodo.com.au > VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) > 61 3 58833588 > Australia.( Down Under) > See My KR2 Building Web Page at: > http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html > See our VW Engines and Home built web page at > http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:34:10 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Newbie (not really!) To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003901c60676$4820bb10$15a3443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Marcel What a beautiful looking KR. Well done. What canopy did you use? The shape is really nice Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) See My KR2 Building Web Page at: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html See our VW Engines and Home built web page at http://www.vw-engines.com/ www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:45:21 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: KR> Emergency landing To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051221.175601.956.10.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Glad to hear you and your plane are ok. I was wondering if an air > tight seal along the top and perhaps the sides of the cowling would > have prevented, or reduced the amount of oil that came up on the > canopy. I'm just thinking out loud. I don't know how you constructed > your cowling. > The cowl is pretty tight. The oil I got on the windscreen was only a small part of what went over board. The oil I got on top came from directly behind the spinner and straight over the top. I was amazed at the path it took. William strongly urged to check into the whistle vent tube to prevent the event. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:52:12 -0500 From: "Joseph H. Horton" Subject: Re: KR> I love my KR2 To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051221.175601.956.9.joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I feel like Batman....dart out of work and disappear into thin air, > show up > at the airport 15 minutes later, and 10 minutes after that the oil > temp is > warm enough to give it full throttle down the runway... > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama Hey Batman, When I was Hang Gliding all the time people used to tell me that I had a Superman complex. Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA. joe.kr2s.builder@juno.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:07:44 -0500 From: "patrusso" Subject: Re: R?f. : KR> KRs around the world To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002601c60683$5a52dc20$4aa772d8@patrusso> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Serge That's what KR flying is all about for many of us. One giant entertaining and often exasperating mishap after another. I wonder how we all are still sane, alive and well! Lifes'a lark, eh? Pat > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:24:24 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: RE: KR> Closing carb To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051221182132.03929718@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed At 12:06 PM 12/21/2005, you wrote: >Colin I think I'd rather have your setup than one that goes wide open. >One specific instance where this comes in handy would be short final. >Stuck wide open could be a bitch since you'd have to shut down and dead >stick the landing. Doug Rupert ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A spring loaded wide open failure would at least get you to an airport where you could "dead stick" the landing by killing the ignition. Much better then trying to find a landing spot in a pine forest or a corn field !! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:37:58 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: Re: KR> Newbie To: "driessen2@tiscali.nl" ,KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051221183337.0393aa00@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Marcel, Welcome ! You must be very proud of your beautiful looking KR. The other two KR's shown on your site are both very nice also. Keep us posted on your progress and do you have any performance numbers on the other two KR's ? Tell us about them if you can. Thanks, Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:39:24 -0600 From: "Oscar Zuniga" Subject: KR> closing carb To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I can tell you for sure which way I want the butterfly or slide in my carb to fail if the cable breaks or lets go... wide open. On an early dual training flight in a Citabria, after climbing out on takeoff I proceeded to reduce throttle to cruise setting for the pattern and nothing happened. Moving the throttle knob in and out had no effect on the engine RPM or sound... it was WOT. Student pilot (me) sat there without knowing what was going on or what to do, whereas good old Charlie instantly knew what was up and sounded off with "I've got the airplane". He completed the pattern with the throttle wide open and used the mixture to control power, called the tower for an immediate priority to land, blipped the power off and on while on final to maintain glideslope after a circling approach (not squared-off), and only moved it to idle cutoff in the flare to reduce float. After the rollout off the active, we got a ground tow back and examination showed that the bug nut lockscrew on the throttle cable had loosened (Bowden-type throttle cable). As others have said, if the slide or butterfly closes, there is no option but to set up best glide and prepare to land. And funny thing about slide-type carbs on most two-strokes (Mikuni, etc.)- by the nature of their design you'd have to change the whole setup to make them fail open because the cable pulls them open against a spring. Interesting design problem, but not impossible. Oscar Zuniga San Antonio, TX mailto: taildrags@hotmail.com website at http://www.flysquirrel.net ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:37:28 -0500 From: Shawn and Laura Subject: KR> KR: closing carb To: KRnet Message-ID: <43AA1168.2080409@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Some Suzuki people may remember the old GS series that used a mechanical slide Mikuni carb instead of a pull cable and compression spring. They used a fork arm inside the carb body to lift the slide. Doubt it would take much to modify it to open in case of a broken throttle cable. Hmmm. Shawn Lindsay, Ontario As others have said, if the slide or butterfly closes, there is no option but to set up best glide and prepare to land. And funny thing about slide-type carbs on most two-strokes (Mikuni, etc.)- by the nature of their design you'd have to change the whole setup to make them fail open because the cable pulls them open against a spring. Interesting design problem, but not impossible. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:24:00 -0700 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: KR> 72 degrees To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000a01c606af$8859d570$6701a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Netters, I had a slow day and the weather was warm....72... so to the airport I went. I told Bob Glidden that I had to start wearing jeans. Today I had a pair of shorts on and the weather was great. I flew local to take some photos of the area. I added a few http://vandyke5.com/Yuma.htm. Sorry Bob. I don't mean to rub it in, but I love this time of year. I was only up for an hour and I didn't really have a plan. I just wanted to take some photos and fly out to the RV park that my Aunt and Uncle stay at. After 5 or 6 passes low passes, there were several people out to watch. Have a great Holiday netters..... Lee Van Dyke Mesa AZ Lee@vandyke5.com ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:51:55 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> Closing carb To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <001801c606b3$6f3bcae0$506cd1d8@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Very true. Any true engine out landings have been in helicopters so landing area was a non issue. Only engine failure in fixed wing was on my multi-engine checkride. That damn Baron was a brute to fly with left engine out but at least the one fan still going allowed landing at the airport not the Everglades. Doug A spring loaded wide open failure would at least get you to an airport where you could "dead stick" the landing by killing the ignition. Much better then trying to find a landing spot in a pine forest or a corn field !! Larry Flesner -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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