From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 522 Date: 12/22/2005 9:00:26 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: R?f. : KR> KRs around the world (billstarrs@peoplepc.com) 2. Rudder Light Wiring (Mark Jones) 3. Re: Rudder Light Wiring (Mark Langford) 4. RE: Rudder Light Wiring (Mark Jones) 5. RE: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 521 (Ryan) 6. newbie question need plans (Henry von stade) 7. Re: newbie question need plans (Cris.) 8. Re: newbie question need plans (Cris.) 9. Re: Newbie (driessen2@tiscali.nl) 10. RE: newbie question need plans (Mark Jones) 11. Re: newbie question need plans (VIRGIL N SALISBURY) 12. great afternoon (Robert Pesak) 13. Re: great afternoon (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 14. Aero Carb (Dan Heath) 15. Re: Aero Carb (Mark Jones) 16. Re: Aero Carb (Bob Glidden) 17. Re: great afternoon (Mark Langford) 18. Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB (Mark Langford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:32:00 -0700 From: Subject: Re: R?f. : KR> KRs around the world To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001701c606b0$a84039f0$81eef004@Bill> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I flew into a gas truck 27 years ago . I'm still alive but not sane because I never was. That's. when I started building my KR. Bill Starrs, Clarkdale AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "patrusso" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world Serge That's what KR flying is all about for many of us. One giant entertaining and often exasperating mishap after another. I wonder how we all are still sane, alive and well! Lifes'a lark, eh? Pat > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:59:53 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: KR> Rudder Light Wiring To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C10454@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Last night I removed my rudder from my KR. There are two reasons I did this. I am in the process of getting ready for paint plus one of the wires which goes through the vertical stabilizer and into the rudder broke where the wire enters the rudder. This was caused by the continuous flexing of the wire. On the vertical stab side, I had made a large cone shave where the wire enters from the rudder. This allowed the wire to move without pinching as I worked the rudder. I did not do this on the rudder side where the wire exits the rudder going into the vertical stabilizer. How did you guys route your wiring into the rudder and what type of wire did you use? Thanks Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:50:05 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Rudder Light Wiring To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <088c01c60706$ff908f60$d004a58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Mark Jones wrote: >How did you guys route your wiring into the rudder and what type of >wire >did you use? I just used the regular MS22759 white stuff, and I offset the hole in the rudder from the hole in the vertical stab spar by about 4". This makes the wire twist more than bending and gives it a much longer distance to do it in, so the fatigue is reduced a lot. It still works, if that means anything. I'm taking the afternoon off to fly to Lebanon., TN with Troy Petteway to visit a KR builder... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 09:20:52 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> Rudder Light Wiring To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C10456@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks Mark.....flying again today!!!! Some folks get to have all the fun. We are having a heat wave right now. It's 21°F and freezing rain and snow predicted for tonight. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+mjones=muellersales.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+mjones=muellersales.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:50 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Rudder Light Wiring Mark Jones wrote: >How did you guys route your wiring into the rudder and what type of >wire >did you use? I just used the regular MS22759 white stuff, and I offset the hole in the rudder from the hole in the vertical stab spar by about 4". This makes the wire twist more than bending and gives it a much longer distance to do it in, so the fatigue is reduced a lot. It still works, if that means anything. I'm taking the afternoon off to fly to Lebanon., TN with Troy Petteway to visit a KR builder... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:45:02 -0800 From: "Ryan" Subject: KR> RE: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 521 To: Message-ID: <200512221544.jBMFicV7027874@ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Marcel Driessen´s KR-2S page http://home.tiscali.nl/~driessen2/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:06:01 +1100 From: "Phil Matheson" Subject: Re: KR> Newbie (not really!) To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <002e01c60672$59b413d0$15a3443d@Office> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Marcel Welcome to the net. Sorry but I could not get you home page to work. May be mistake in the link?? Phil Matheson mathesonp@dodo.com.au VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 61 3 58833588 Australia.( Down Under) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:10:58 +0200 From: "Henry von stade" Subject: KR> newbie question need plans To: "KR Group" Message-ID: <000601c6071a$adf35f70$0700000a@stallion> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi everyone I need to order plans. I am South African resident. is there a way I could order plans and pay with paypal? Who could I email for help on this topic? Thank you Henry ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:21:20 +0100 From: "Cris." Subject: Re: KR> newbie question need plans To: KRnet Cc: KR Group Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, that's simple: no Paypal, no credit card, no e-mail, no nothing :-) Just call RR on the phone and arrange the transaction. I tried by fax (I'm italian and usually make a lot of mistakes, while... "scripta manent") but could not even manage to get a reply. Then I bought a set of second hand plans. Hope this helps. Merry Christmas! Ciao. Cristiano. 2005/12/22, Henry von stade : > > Hi everyone > > I need to order plans. I am South African resident. is there a way I > could order plans and pay with paypal? Who could I email for help on > this topic? > > Thank you > Henry > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- 'Think there is nothing to worry about? Look carefully at your kids asleep in their beds and think again. You owe it to them to go over your airplane one more time with crash survivability in mind. (Budd Davisson) ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:21:20 +0100 From: "Cris." Subject: Re: KR> newbie question need plans To: KRnet Cc: KR Group Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well, that's simple: no Paypal, no credit card, no e-mail, no nothing :-) Just call RR on the phone and arrange the transaction. I tried by fax (I'm italian and usually make a lot of mistakes, while... "scripta manent") but could not even manage to get a reply. Then I bought a set of second hand plans. Hope this helps. Merry Christmas! Ciao. Cristiano. 2005/12/22, Henry von stade : > > Hi everyone > > I need to order plans. I am South African resident. is there a way I > could order plans and pay with paypal? Who could I email for help on > this topic? > > Thank you > Henry > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- 'Think there is nothing to worry about? Look carefully at your kids asleep in their beds and think again. You owe it to them to go over your airplane one more time with crash survivability in mind. (Budd Davisson) ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:53:58 +0100 (CET) From: "driessen2@tiscali.nl" Subject: KR> Re: Newbie To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <3260020.1135274038424.JavaMail.root@ps4> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="UTF-8" >What canopy did you use? The shape is really nice >Phil Matheson I used the dragonfly canopy. >The other two KR's shown on your site are both very nice also. >Keep us posted on your progress and do you have any performance numbers >on the other two KR's ? Tell us about them if you can. >Thanks, >Larry Flesner Concerning the other two KR´s on my webpage: Herman Myling´s KR is flying since February this year. Aart Weert´s KR hasn´t made his first flight yet. I will ask Herman if he can give me some performance data of his KR. regards, Marcel Driessen ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:21:52 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: RE: KR> newbie question need plans To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <26D1C67793459F43BF8DA235F92B1F35C10459@tulsaexchange.tulsaokmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rand Robinson will respond to your fax soon. They are a very small business and sometimes are very slow to respond. They only are in their office once or twice a week. If you are positive you want to buy a set of plans, mail them a certified check or money order in US funds and they will send the set of plans to you. Jeanette Rand (who is the owner of Rand Robinson and the wife of the late Ken Rand) is very honest and will make sure you receive the plans. There is really no need to try and call them, just send payment to them and you will get the plans very soon. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI Visit my web site: http://www.flykr2s.com Email: mailto:flykr2s@wi.rr.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Cris. Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:21 AM To: KRnet Cc: KR Group Subject: Re: KR> newbie question need plans Well, that's simple: no Paypal, no credit card, no e-mail, no nothing :-) Just call RR on the phone and arrange the transaction. I tried by fax (I'm italian and usually make a lot of mistakes, while... "scripta manent") but could not even manage to get a reply. Then I bought a set of second hand plans. Hope this helps. Merry Christmas! Ciao. Cristiano. 2005/12/22, Henry von stade : > > Hi everyone > > I need to order plans. I am South African resident. is there a way I > could order plans and pay with paypal? Who could I email for help on this > topic? > > Thank you > Henry > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > -- 'Think there is nothing to worry about? Look carefully at your kids asleep in their beds and think again. You owe it to them to go over your airplane one more time with crash survivability in mind. (Budd Davisson) _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:17:16 -0500 From: VIRGIL N SALISBURY Subject: Re: KR> newbie question need plans To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051222.162710.1748.0.virgnvs@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Fax Jeannette and ask her how the best way to get them, Virg On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 19:10:58 +0200 "Henry von stade" writes: > Hi everyone > > I need to order plans. I am South African resident. is there a way > I could order plans and pay with paypal? Who could I email for help > on this topic? > > Thank you > Henry > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:28:19 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pesak Subject: KR> great afternoon To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <20051222222819.24562.qmail@web30612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 It was a pleasure to meet Mark and Troy at the Lebanon airport this afternoon.I know they hated to just drop what they were doing, and fly all the why up to Lebanon Tn.I really appreciated that. --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:03:06 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: Re: KR> great afternoon To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051222165408.039488f0@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed At 04:28 PM 12/22/2005, you wrote: >It was a pleasure to meet Mark and Troy at the Lebanon airport this >afternoon.I know they hated to just drop what they were doing, and >fly all the why up to Lebanon Tn.I really appreciated that. Robert Pesak ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm sure they felt put out about the whole thing but they are two great guys and I'm sure they will get over it. :-) I had thoughts of joining the three of you but had to work. :-( It would have been about an hour and fifteen minute flight for me with no cabin heat but hey, that's no hill for a climber! Larry Flesner ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:01:54 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Aero Carb To: Message-ID: <43AB5A92.000005.03252@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I tightened up the friction lock so it requires a bit of force to move the throttle and that seems to have stopped the carb from sucking the slide, closed. I think that we may want to add a light WOT spring, just in case. Today, I adjusted the needle, I am using #2 right now, 1 turn to the rich side, and it idles very well and will run well at WOT, but still stumbles badly in between. Joe has advised me to use #3 needle, so I probably won't mess with this one for long. Monet says that most installations use the #2, but what do they know. I think one of those air/fuel ratio gauges would come in handy right now. I can see myself chasing this thing for weeks. I am open to any and all advise from those currently running an Aero Carb, and especially those running one on a 2180 VW or like engine. You may mail me directly at DanRH@AllTel.net Notice, all you have to do, is click on the address above and your comments will come directly to me. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:53:11 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> Aero Carb To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002201c6076c$03612b80$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Joe is correct. Ditch the #2 and install the #3. That was the only needle mine would run right on. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:01 PM Subject: KR> Aero Carb > I tightened up the friction lock so it requires a bit of force to move the > throttle and that seems to have stopped the carb from sucking the slide, > closed. I think that we may want to add a light WOT spring, just in case. > Today, I adjusted the needle, I am using #2 right now, 1 turn to the rich > side, and it idles very well and will run well at WOT, but still stumbles > badly in between. > > Joe has advised me to use #3 needle, so I probably won't mess with this one > for long. Monet says that most installations use the #2, but what do they > know. I think one of those air/fuel ratio gauges would come in handy right > now. I can see myself chasing this thing for weeks. > > I am open to any and all advise from those currently running an Aero Carb, > and especially those running one on a 2180 VW or like engine. > > > > You may mail me directly at DanRH@AllTel.net > > > > Notice, all you have to do, is click on the address above and your comments > will come directly to me. > > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building > is OVER. > > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:59:38 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: Re: KR> Aero Carb To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <004001c6076c$e9cd0df0$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Dan I know of four people using or have used the aero carb and all of them ended up with the third needle in to get it to run right.... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com --- --- ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:59:53 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> great afternoon To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002801c60775$54ce92b0$0202a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Larry wrote: > I'm sure they felt put out about the whole thing but they are two great > guys and I'm sure they will get over it. :-) Well, the flight back where I detoured over the Apalachian foothills helped a little, and then I did 8 touch-n-goes at Fayetteville and Hazel Green to further ease the pain. It was a gorgeous day, and the last landing was right at sunset. I'm really loving wintertime (sorry about that, Jones) and the super visibility that you get with it. Troy said with 100 hours on it I really should paint it, but I'm having way too much fun at the moment. Some Moontown buddies are threatening to build a paint booth, so I might just "fly in" and paint it one night, but I'm not sure the wings are ever coming off of this thing again. It was great to meet Robert, a new KR friend today, and to see Troy again. > I had thoughts of joining the three of you but had to work. :-( > It would have been about an hour and fifteen minute flight > for me with no cabin heat but hey, that's no hill for a climber! You shoulda come, but I guess we could make it next weekend somewhere else! [watch out, Dan and Jerry.] Bring that thing down here for a couple of hours and we'll fix that heat problem. Troy was telling me today that he' never had cabin heat, and never had the need for it (and he built his in 1992). His cabin is well sealed, but yours probably is too. Mine was prone to serious drafts, until I found some weatherstripping at www.mcmaster.com that fixed that. Apparently those big mills radiate enough heat to keep you warm without a connection thru the firewall. See http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/05122145m.jpg . Another 2.5 hours of taildragger KR time for the logbook today.... Mark Langford, Harvest, AL see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:05:16 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: KR> Benito Baldominos Baldominos's Spanish KR2SB To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003001c60776$15165bc0$0202a8c0@2600xp> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Check out http://www.krnet.org/krs/beni/ from Guadalajara. This thing blows my mind... Mark Langford, Harvest, AL see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 522 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================