From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 535 Date: 12/31/2005 9:00:09 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: tower trip (Lee Van Dyke) 2. engine design (AVLEC) 3. Re: CG location on a KR2 (Dan Heath) 4. Marks Visit (Dan Heath) 5. CG and the KR2S (Colin Rainey) 6. Re: tower trip (Steve Bray) 7. Re: CG and the KR2S (Mark Langford) 8. Re: CG and the KR2S (Mark Jones) 9. Re: CG and the KR2S (Kenneth Wiltrout) 10. KR2 stuff (bobby@hatconversions.com) 11. Re: CG and the KR2S (bobby@hatconversions.com) 12. Re: KR2 stuff (Larry&Sallie Flesner) 13. Tachometer (Jaco Swanepoel) 14. Re: Tachometer (Mark Langford) 15. R3000 (The Ainsworths) 16. Bad day (Dan Heath) 17. Re: Bad day (MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com) 18. Re: Bad day (M & C) 19. Re: Bad day (Jack Cooper) 20. HAPPY NEW YEAR (Bob Glidden) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:50:39 -0700 From: "Lee Van Dyke" Subject: Re: KR> tower trip To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00bb01c60dce$2122ca30$6401a8c0@SNAKEBITE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve Bray, did they let you smoke that pipe in the Air Force??? Lee Van Dyke.... just kidding ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Bray" To: Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: RE: KR> tower trip > Mark > I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not believe > how much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually cared ! We would > make time > for them. > I worked in an approach/radar facility. no windows. and we didn't get > many visitors, unless they were pissed. > Not much glamor there but we were the ones who brought you home when your > windsheld was the end of your world as far as you could tell. > Meeting them eye to eye and letting them know your intrested will make a > diffrence. > They will remember you. > > Steve Bray > Jackson, Tennessee > > > > > >From: "Mark Langford" > >Reply-To: KRnet > >To: "KRnet" > >Subject: KR> tower trip > >Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:53:55 -0600 > > > >NetHeads, > > > >Today I needed to run by the airport and buy a Charlotte sectional to > >fly to Dan's in the morning. HSV is closer than any other, so I > >planned on dropping by on the way home from work. It was a really > >crappy day, so I thought maybe the folks in the tower would let me > >visit, since the workload > >couldn't be very high. I called and the guy said he was pretty busy but > >"come on out right now", so I did. We spent 15 minutes just looking at > >all > >the stuff on the scope, explaining every detail. I got a very good > >explanation for how the whole controller thing works, how you get > >handed off, picked up, the various airspace sectors, and all kind of > >good stuff. The last guy I met was the controller that I talked to in > >June during my emergency landing. He remembered every detail, and we > >had a good time talking the whole thing over. > > > >The point of this is that if you get the chance, take that tour. You > >can find your local towered airport at http://www.faa.gov/arp/ and > >pick your region, find your "local" airport on the list, and give > >them a call. He said it was a 15 minute tour, but I ended up > >standing around talking to all > >the controllers, and after an hour figured I'd held them up long > >enough and > >bowed out. They seemed to enjoy the conversation, and I came away > >with a much better understanding of what the guys on the other end of > >the radio are doing... > > > >Mark Langford, Harvest, AL > >see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com > >email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > >Search the KRnet Archives at > >http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:23:05 +0200 From: "AVLEC" Subject: KR> engine design To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001101c60dd2$cb6624c0$b2a6fea9@dene> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Talking about engine design, ignition control and detonation control, Take a look at the engines built by "Light Power Engine Corporation". These motors can be run at compression ratios up to 14:1 without detonation occurring. Quite an advanced motor! They can feature such things as carbon push rods, carbon roller lifters, flourocarbon head gaskets, carbon engine cases, composite valve covers, variable duration and lift valve trains, carbon pistons, ceramic cylinders, etc. WOW! See: Alternative engines by Mike Myal Vol 1 Regards Dene Collett KR2SRT builder South africa Whisper assembler See: www.whisperaircraft.com mailto: avlec@telkomsa.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 05:30:30 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> CG location on a KR2 To: Message-ID: <43B65DC6.000001.00584@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That CG is for a KR2 that weighs 670 pounds and has the RAF-48 airfoil, using the Diehl long wings and Diehl fixed gear. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC -------Original Message------- Is this set of wt/bal data valid for the old airfoil or the new one? Is it for the KR2 or the KR2s? ( If I read the question correctly, the query was for the cg on a KR2 which would imply the old airfoil; ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:11:28 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Marks Visit To: Message-ID: <43B68380.00000E.00584@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, it is way past 11, but I was a bit tired last night. Pics of Mark's visit are posted at the link below. Click on the Pic of Mark on the home page for a few more pics. The Black Bird seems ready for flight now. Just a few loose ends to tighten up and we will be getting ready for that first flight. Joe Horton was right about the Aero Carb in it's ability to start the engine when cold. Yesterday, it was 40, Oh, I know that isn't cold for some of you, and the engine started on about the fourth blade. Since I installed it, I have had no problems with starting and there is no primer required. It does have other small issues, but I am comparing it to an Ellison. Other than that, it is the best Carb that I have tried. Going to the airport today to tighten those loose ends and do a "high attitude" fuel flow check, now that I don't have fuel pumps. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:24:04 -0500 From: "Colin Rainey" Subject: KR> CG and the KR2S To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <410-22005126311324486@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Bob I do not believe that the CG limits were changed for the KR2S from those already designed for the KR2. They are still the same, which is why the standard modification is to add one bay forward and one bay rear for the total stretch. Others are going alittle longer and enlargening the tail feathers, but their CG will still need to fall into the same range as before. Adjustments are just made as to locating battery and such to compensate. I also believe that it is understood that the last 2 inches of the originally published limits are considered unusable by builders and pilots of today... Colin Rainey brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:29:48 -0600 From: "Steve Bray" Subject: Re: KR> tower trip To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Back then Lee it was Kool Filters, there was an ashtray at every position. The big no-no was drinking beer within 100 ft. of the rapcon and the headset cords were only 25 ft. long ! Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Lee Van Dyke" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: Re: KR> tower trip >Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:50:39 -0700 > >Steve Bray, did they let you smoke that pipe in the Air Force??? > >Lee Van Dyke.... > >just kidding > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Bray" >To: >Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:31 PM >Subject: RE: KR> tower trip > > > > Mark > > I was a controller in the USAF from 1972-76 and you would not > > believe >how > > much we enjoyed/appericated a pilot that actually cared ! We would > > make >time > > for them. > > I worked in an approach/radar facility. no windows. and we didn't > > get >many > > visitors, > > unless they were pissed. > > Not much glamor there but we were the ones who brought you home when >your > > windsheld was the end of your world as far as you could tell. > > Meeting them eye to eye and letting them know your intrested will > > make a diffrence. They will remember you. > > > > Steve Bray > > Jackson, Tennessee > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Mark Langford" > > >Reply-To: KRnet > > >To: "KRnet" > > >Subject: KR> tower trip > > >Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:53:55 -0600 > > > > > >NetHeads, > > > > > >Today I needed to run by the airport and buy a Charlotte sectional > > >to >fly > > >to > > >Dan's in the morning. HSV is closer than any other, so I planned > > >on dropping by on the way home from work. It was a really crappy > > >day, so >I > > >thought maybe the folks in the tower would let me visit, since the >workload > > >couldn't be very high. I called and the guy said he was pretty > > >busy >but > > >"come on out right now", so I did. We spent 15 minutes just looking >at > > >all > > >the stuff on the scope, explaining every detail. I got a very good > > >explanation for how the whole controller thing works, how you get >handed > > >off, picked up, the various airspace sectors, and all kind of good >stuff. > > >The last guy I met was the controller that I talked to in June > > >during >my > > >emergency landing. He remembered every detail, and we had a good > > >time talking the whole thing over. > > > > > >The point of this is that if you get the chance, take that tour. > > >You >can > > >find your local towered airport at http://www.faa.gov/arp/ and pick >your > > >region, find your "local" airport on the list, and give them a > > >call. >He > > >said it was a 15 minute tour, but I ended up standing around > > >talking to >all > > >the controllers, and after an hour figured I'd held them up long > > >enough >and > > >bowed out. They seemed to enjoy the conversation, and I came away > > >with >a > > >much better understanding of what the guys on the other end of the >radio > > >are > > >doing... > > > > > >Mark Langford, Harvest, AL > > >see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com > > >email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > > >Search the KRnet Archives at > > >http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > Search the KRnet Archives at > > http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:54:25 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> CG and the KR2S To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <047f01c60e11$b602af60$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> I do not believe that the CG limits were changed for the KR2S from >> those already designed for the KR2. They are still the same, which is why the standard modification is to add one bay forward and one bay rear for the total stretch.<< There's only 2" added to the front of the S as opposed to the KR2, if you built them both by the RR plans. If you add a whole 'nuther bay to the front of a KR, you better have a really light engine up there! I know Ed Blocher added 4" to the front of his KR2S, and I'm not sure how he was planning on hanging a Corvair up there. You can modify a KR in many ways, but adding legroom has its limitations! Mine is "stock KR" in front of the main spar, and with the Corvair hanging up there a half an inch from the firewall (and no header tank), my CG is at the forward end of the range. Not that there's anything wrong with that (it sure makes it stable), but if I added 2", 4", or another bay, I'd have to have 30 pounds of lead in the tail (and my backup battery is already back there). Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:21:50 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> CG and the KR2S To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <002201c60e1d$ecb0fba0$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree with Mark that you can only move the firewall forward a couple of inches. I did exactly that as I wanted a little more leg room. When I built the boat and added the 2" forward for legroom, I was dedicated to installing a 2180 VW but then in 1999 at the Lake Barkely Gathering, William Wynne showed up with a Corvair engine mounted on a trailer and after listening to him for most of the day on Saturday, I became a Corvair convert. Then as time went on and I began to learn more and more about how to build an airplane I began to worry about the extra weight of the Corvair sitting 2 inches further out from the CG. Well to make a long story short, I finished the plane and did a W&B with the battery sitting against the forward side of the main spar. The engine it self was as close to the firewall as possible as the nose of my starter is 1/8" off the firewall. The CG calculated in this configuration to be 2.7 inches aft of the forward CG limit fully loaded with pilot and passenger. Not too shabby!!! Then I moved the battery to the firewall and the CG moved forward to 2.3 inches aft of the forward CG limit. Great!!!!!! I left the battery on the firewall and have been flying that way ever since. She is a very stable craft that when trimmed will fly hands off for several minutes. As a matter of fact I HAVE flown 4 minutes and thirty seconds without touching the stick but I was having rudder inputs toward the last couple of minutes to help keep her straight & level. Remember, every KR will be different. Factors such as your turtle deck weight, tail feathers weight, etc.... all make a huge difference whether you will need ballast in the tail or not. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my NEW KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Langford" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:54 AM Subject: Re: KR> CG and the KR2S > >> I do not believe that the CG limits were changed for the KR2S from those > already designed for the KR2. They are still the same, which is why > the standard modification is to add one bay forward and one bay rear > for the total stretch.<< > > There's only 2" added to the front of the S as opposed to the KR2, if > you built them both by the RR plans. If you add a whole 'nuther bay > to the front of a KR, you better have a really light engine up there! > I know Ed Blocher added 4" to the front of his KR2S, and I'm not sure > how he was planning on hanging a Corvair up there. > > You can modify a KR in many ways, but adding legroom has its > limitations! Mine is "stock KR" in front of the main spar, and with > the Corvair hanging up there a half an inch from the firewall (and no > header tank), my CG is at > the forward end of the range. Not that there's anything wrong with > that (it > sure makes it stable), but if I added 2", 4", or another bay, I'd have > to have 30 pounds of lead in the tail (and my backup battery is > already back there). > > Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama > see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to > N56ML "at" hiwaay.net > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:28:53 -0600 From: "Kenneth Wiltrout" Subject: Re: KR> CG and the KR2S To: , "KRnet" Message-ID: <000601c60e27$4a2b4160$2f01a8c0@gatewayzk8r233> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original With 6.5 gal fuel in the header tank ( max is 13 gal ) and a passenger, my 2S is 2" forward of the rear most CG, and I can tell you that it's a handful on take off, the tail drops noticeably. To counter this I increase my take off speed to 70 mph or top off the fuel tank. Your results may vary.--------------I'm 240lbs and the last passenger was 135 lbs. Kenny 6399U ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Rainey" To: Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:24 AM Subject: KR> CG and the KR2S > Bob > I do not believe that the CG limits were changed for the KR2S from > those > already designed for the KR2. They are still the same, which is why the > standard modification is to add one bay forward and one bay rear for the > total stretch. Others are going alittle longer and enlargening the tail > feathers, but their CG will still need to fall into the same range as > before. Adjustments are just made as to locating battery and such to > compensate. I also believe that it is understood that the last 2 inches of > the originally published limits are considered unusable by builders and > pilots of today... > > > Colin Rainey > brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:10:30 -0800 (PST) From: bobby@hatconversions.com Subject: KR> KR2 stuff To: Flesner@midwest.net Cc: KRnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <56115.127.0.0.1.1136045430.squirrel@205.234.99.76> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Larry, My name is Bobby Murty. Currently living just outside Pueblo Co. Was sorting thru all the info on the KR net last night and the info you contributed to the site seem to agree with my needs. I am currently trying to lend a hand to a boy that is building a corvair powered KR. I have built all the 4130 wing attach point hardware and will be building him an engine mount at some point. While I am tooling up in the machine shop to build things for him, I am toying with the idea of building a second airplane. I have already spent years building a Mustang 11 and a Mustang 1 and a Cassutt. As opposed to most builders I don't want to redisign anything!! As we all know the minute you change 1 thing, there are 10 other changes that must be made to compensate for it. I have an 0-200 and enough wheels,brakes, pedals etc to put another small airplane together. What this needs to be is a plane jane little airplane that will carry my 6'1,210 pounds and my 125 pound girlfriend off my 2700 foot grass strip. I don't want to build anything that is available on the market. Is there a cowling available that will fit the 0-200 without a rebuild? If so does anyone have a set of prints or drawing for the mount? Several years ago when Bob Bushby sold out , I bought his engine mount jig for the Mustang. I'll bet with out much modification I can massage it to build a KR mount. Was also wondering what the final prop combination you deceided on. Sounds like you have been thru the full ordeal with props. Thanks..............Bobby ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:09:33 -0800 (PST) From: bobby@hatconversions.com Subject: Re: KR> CG and the KR2S To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <57337.127.0.0.1.1136056173.squirrel@205.234.99.76> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > With 6.5 gal fuel in the header tank ( max is 13 gal ) and a > passenger, my 2S is 2" forward of the rear most CG, and I can tell you > that it's a handful > on take off, the tail drops noticeably. To counter this I increase my take > off speed to 70 mph or top off the fuel tank. > Your results may vary.--------------I'm 240lbs and the last passenger was > 135 lbs. > > Kenny 6399U > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Rainey" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:24 AM > Subject: KR> CG and the KR2S > > >> Bob >> I do not believe that the CG limits were changed for the KR2S from >> those already designed for the KR2. They are still the same, which is >> why the standard modification is to add one bay forward and one bay >> rear for the total stretch. Others are going alittle longer and >> enlargening the tail feathers, but their CG will still need to fall >> into the same range as before. Adjustments are just made as to >> locating battery and such to compensate. I also believe that it is >> understood that the last 2 inches of the originally published limits >> are considered unusable by builders and pilots of today... >> >> >> Colin Rainey >> brokerpilot96ta@earthlink.net >> _ Kenny,What are you powered with? Thanks, Bobby______________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html >> > > > > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:07:16 -0600 From: Larry&Sallie Flesner Subject: Re: KR> KR2 stuff To: KRnet Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.0.20051231130103.02fbb528@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Bobby, Sounds like you're poised for a project. The 2S sounds like just what you're looking for. I'll get back to you, maybe tomorrow, as I'm headed out the door to a college basketball game. In the mean time, check out Langford's site for the motor mount info for the corvair and lots of other good stuff. I'll try to address your other questions tomorrow. Later............. Larry Flesner P.S. There is an unusual KR2s project for sale in California that looks interesting. It looks like a real good start and probably worth the $3500 he's asking. I haven't done a cost run on it but it has a lot of stuff with it. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:37:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jaco Swanepoel Subject: KR> Tachometer To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20051231193715.73414.qmail@web31707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Guys, I have a VDO tachometer with 3 pinouts. + , 15 & -12. It has seperate backlight wires. Can someone please tell me where the pinouts go. I'm guessing that the -12 is for the coil negative, not sure of the other two. Regards, Jaco Swanepoel South Africa KR2S, ZU-DVP --------------------------------- Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:33:14 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Tachometer To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <04ca01c60e51$cf779ba0$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jaco Swanepoel wrote: >> I have a VDO tachometer with 3 pinouts. + , 15 & -12. It has seperate backlight wires. Can someone please tell me where the pinouts go. I'm guessing that the -12 is for the coil negative, not sure of the other two.<< If it follows usual VW practice, 15 is "switched positive current", 31 would be ground. I'd Google the part number and I think you'll probably find the installation instructions for it on the VDO web site. Most VDO stuff that I've seen had a + and a ground symbol for the two power connections, and an S for the "signal" or sending unit. Hope this helps, but it may not... Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:53:33 -0500 From: "The Ainsworths" Subject: KR> R3000 To: Message-ID: <000001c60e54$ac092500$0b672fd1@computer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Revmaster Aviation is experimenting with a new R3000 100hp engine and hope to have it ready for full production in 2006 @ $10000. By the time some of you/us are finished your KR building (and sanding) you might be ready to go this route. The engine is in testing (running) stage now with mostly all newly designed parts and the old VW bugaboos taken care of. This pricing seems to me to fit in between a good Corvair and Jab with the 0-200 (new) far away. Something to ponder (Contact magazine #80 by John Moyle) ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:26:58 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> Bad day To: Message-ID: <43B73DF2.000005.03972@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, there won't be any flying for Dan and Jerry anytime soon. We put the tail in a valley between the taxi way and the runway to get the tail low. Jerry was running it at about 3000 rpm, with less than a1/4 tank and it was running great. He started to pull back and the engine came to a very abrupt stop. It is frozen. There was no indication that anything was wrong. No smoke, no foul temp readings, no nothing. So now back to the shop with the engine. I don't like working on them. I can build them, but really don't trust myself with it and I don't know who will work on a VW for an airplane, that I would trust. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building is OVER. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:48:58 -0500 From: MFREEMAN2@indy.rr.com Subject: Re: KR> Bad day To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well I am qualified but I'm retired now let me know what you find, by the way Steve Bennett at Great Plains Aircraft Co. would be a great choice if you want an expert to do it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Heath Date: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:26 pm Subject: KR> Bad day > Well, there won't be any flying for Dan and Jerry anytime soon. > We put the > tail in a valley between the taxi way and the runway to get the > tail low. > Jerry was running it at about 3000 rpm, with less than a1/4 tank > and it was > running great. He started to pull back and the engine came to a > very abrupt > stop. It is frozen. There was no indication that anything was > wrong. No > smoke, no foul temp readings, no nothing. So now back to the shop > with the > engine. I don't like working on them. I can build them, but > really don't > trust myself with it and I don't know who will work on a VW for an > airplane,that I would trust. > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics > See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering > There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time > for building > is OVER. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:08:29 -0600 From: "M & C" Subject: Re: KR> Bad day To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sorry to hear about this, I had hoped to hear about your first flight. Good luck on finding the cause. The only good thing about this is that it didn't happen in the air. Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri Swing the prop and light the fire, dance amoung the stars.........N642MC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 8:26 PM Subject: KR> Bad day > Well, there won't be any flying for Dan and Jerry anytime soon. We > put > the > tail in a valley between the taxi way and the runway to get the tail low. > Jerry was running it at about 3000 rpm, with less than a1/4 tank and it > was > running great. He started to pull back and the engine came to a very > abrupt > stop. It is frozen. There was no indication that anything was wrong. No > smoke, no foul temp readings, no nothing. So now back to the shop with > the > engine. I don't like working on them. I can build them, but really don't > trust myself with it and I don't know who will work on a VW for an > airplane, > that I would trust. > > > See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in > Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a > time for FLYING and the time for building > is OVER. > Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC > _______________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp > to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net > please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html > ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:52:01 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Jack Cooper Subject: Re: KR> Bad day To: KRnet Message-ID: <11501763.1136091121354.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dan and Jerry What bad luck, sorry to hear about the engine locking up. Just wanted to hear about the first flight but better it happen on the ground than in the air. Please let us know the teardown analysis. I think your recent visitor is an expert in VW engines, although I can't volenteer his services I would highly recommend him or Steve Bennet. Better luck next time. Jack Cooper -----Original Message----- >From: Dan Heath >Sent: Dec 31, 2005 8:26 PM >To: krnet@mylist.net >Subject: KR> Bad day > >Well, there won't be any flying for Dan and Jerry anytime soon. We put the >tail in a valley between the taxi way and the runway to get the tail low. >Jerry was running it at about 3000 rpm, with less than a1/4 tank and it was >running great. He started to pull back and the engine came to a very abrupt >stop. It is frozen. There was no indication that anything was wrong. No >smoke, no foul temp readings, no nothing. So now back to the shop with the >engine. I don't like working on them. I can build them, but really don't >trust myself with it and I don't know who will work on a VW for an airplane, >that I would trust. > > >See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics >See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering >There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building >is OVER. >Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC >_______________________________________ >Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp >to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net >please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:53:05 -0500 From: "Bob Glidden" Subject: KR> HAPPY NEW YEAR To: "KRnet" , "corvaircraft" Message-ID: <02c201c60e8f$411adeb0$6501a8c0@ADMINISTRATOR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY.HOPE 2006 BRINGS YOU SPECIAL TIMES AND SPECIAL FRIENDS.KEEP IT SAFE...... Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glidden@ccrtc.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 535 *************************************** ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================