From: krnet-bounces+johnbou=speakeasy.net@mylist.net To: John Bouyea Subject: KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 6 Date: 1/5/2005 6:57:38 PM Send KRnet mailing list submissions to krnet@mylist.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mylist.net/listinfo/krnet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to krnet-request@mylist.net You can reach the person managing the list at krnet-owner@mylist.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of KRnet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Prop Bolts (Brian Kraut) 2. Re: wing bolts (Allen Wiesner ) 3. R?f. : Re: KR> wing bolts (Serge VIDAL) 4. EGT sensor (Dan Heath) 5. RE: Grove gear (Wood, Sidney M.) 6. RE: Prop Bolts (Jeff Scott) 7. R?f. : RE: KR> Prop Bolts (Serge VIDAL) 8. Re: Réf. : RE: KR> Prop Bolts (Jeff Scott) 9. Wax and PVA (Jim Morehead) 10. Re: Wax and PVA (Mark Langford) 11. RE: Wax and PVA (Doug Rupert) 12. whell pants (jeffyork40@qx.net) 13. silicone and paint (Don Chisholm) 14. Re: wheel pants (Mark Jones) 15. Re: Prop Bolts (Orma) 16. Re: whell pants (Dan Heath) 17. KR video's (N667HU@aol.com) 18. Re: wheel pants (Mark Langford) 19. Re: KR video's (Orma) 20. Re: KR video's (N667HU@aol.com) 21. RE: EGT sensor (Brian Kraut) 22. RE: silicone and paint (Brian Kraut) 23. Gear legs (Glasseyegav) 24. John Backer wheel pants (Brian Kraut) 25. RE: Grove gear (Brian Kraut) 26. RE: Gear legs (Brian Kraut) 27. Re: KR video's (Dan Heath) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:08:23 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Prop Bolts To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" According to the Aircraft Spruce catalog the difference is that the heads have safety wire holes drilled in three directions instead of just one hole like normal drilled head bolts. This is to give you a better chance of getting the safety wire in the correct position for a good lock. Of course, this is only important when you are putting the bolts into a threaded prop hub. When you are using nuts on the back of the bolts like the Great Plains hub it doesn't really matter. I am no expert on prop bolts, so if there is something that I or the Spruce catalog has missed feel free to let me know. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 8:55 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> Prop Bolts What makes a Prop Bolt, a Prop Bolt, and where do you get them? See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:49:44 -0500 From: "Allen Wiesner " Subject: Re: KR> wing bolts To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001c01c4f2f2$bf4b0a30$8111da42@CPQ69645694259> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original >Does anybody know the size and lengths of the wing bolts? I have >standard >WAF's. >I have to make an order for A/S and the plane is at the airport >now. All of the forward spar WAF to WAF bolts (8) are AN6-5A. All of the aft spar WAF to WAF bolts (8) are AN3-5A. The forward center section spar WAF's use AN3-30A bolts (32). The aft center section spar WAF's use AN3-21A (20). The forward outer spar WAF's use AN3-27A (32). The aft outer spar WAF's use AN3-16A (20). All of the above are calculated, assuming 3/32" ply, and are for the dimensions for the KR-2S spars; KR-2's have one less ply face on the outer rear spars. Also, any control brackets attached to WAF's/bolts will need an allowance for the thickness of the brackets. Each 1/8" (.125") will need an increase of +1 to the dash number for that bolt, i.e.: standard aileron pulley brackets will need -31's and -22"s. All of these are assuming washers under the heads and nuts. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:35:41 +0100 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: R?f. : Re: KR> wing bolts To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This is what I have measured on my KR2. Forward spar, WAF to WAF: AN6-5A (x8) Aft spar, WAF to WAF: AN3-5A (x8) Forward center sectionAN4-30A (x28) AN4-31A (x4) Aft center section: AN3-20A (x6), AN3-21A (x8), AN3-22A (x6) Forward outer spar: AN4-26A (x32) Aft outer spar: AN3-16A (x20) Serge VIDAL KR2 ZS-WEC Paris, France "Allen Wiesner " Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-01-05 07:49 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-01-05 07:50 Pour : "KRnet" cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> wing bolts >Does anybody know the size and lengths of the wing bolts? I have standard >WAF's. >I have to make an order for A/S and the plane is at the airport >now. All of the forward spar WAF to WAF bolts (8) are AN6-5A. All of the aft spar WAF to WAF bolts (8) are AN3-5A. The forward center section spar WAF's use AN3-30A bolts (32). The aft center section spar WAF's use AN3-21A (20). The forward outer spar WAF's use AN3-27A (32). The aft outer spar WAF's use AN3-16A (20). All of the above are calculated, assuming 3/32" ply, and are for the dimensions for the KR-2S spars; KR-2's have one less ply face on the outer rear spars. Also, any control brackets attached to WAF's/bolts will need an allowance for the thickness of the brackets. Each 1/8" (.125") will need an increase of +1 to the dash number for that bolt, i.e.: standard aileron pulley brackets will need -31's and -22"s. All of these are assuming washers under the heads and nuts. Allen G. Wiesner KR-2SS/TD S/N 1118 65 Franklin Street Ansonia, CT 06401-1240 (203) 732-0508 flashyal@usadatanet.net _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 06:28:26 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: KR> EGT sensor To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41DBCF5A.000026.02152@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For those of you who have installed the EGT sensor on a VW exhaust. Is the clamp on your sensor too big for the pipe? If so, what did you do to accommodate for that? I seem to remember the same problem with the Little Beast, but cannot remember what I did to make it fit. With all the room that the builders of these sensors have to work with, you would think that they would accommodate the largest to the smallest exhaust pipes. This is not an issue that we should even have to be concerned about. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:45:06 -0500 From: "Wood, Sidney M." Subject: RE: KR> Grove gear To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The brackets for my Diehl tri-gear are tight against the fuselage of my standard plans KR-2. The tire width is 7 ft. Still building. Sid Wood, KR-2 N6242 Mechanicsville MD USA sidney.wood@titan.com From: "Dan Heath" Why did you choose the two piece over the > single piece? For a couple of reasons...to get the wider distance between tires based on the handling reports like what Larry F reported with his 8ft separation and it also replicates what those with the Diehl gear were using/doing that I had seen. r/Bernie Lexington Park, MD KR2S Builder ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:09:18 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: RE: KR> Prop Bolts To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050105.080937.3507.201157@webmail03.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain As I understand it, Brian is correct. I have always used Standard AN bolts for prop bolts. I have also received Standard AN bolts from the prop manufacturer with the prop. Of course you can always safety any AN bolt with a drilled head properly without having the holes directly lined up. Special prop bolts make it fool proof with the additional holes drilled in the heads. -Jeff -- "Brian Kraut" wrote: According to the Aircraft Spruce catalog the difference is that the heads have safety wire holes drilled in three directions instead of just one hole like normal drilled head bolts. This is to give you a better chance of getting the safety wire in the correct position for a good lock. Of course, this is only important when you are putting the bolts into a threaded prop hub. When you are using nuts on the back of the bolts like the Great Plains hub it doesn't really matter. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- What makes a Prop Bolt, a Prop Bolt, and where do you get them? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:29:19 +0100 From: "Serge VIDAL" Subject: R?f. : RE: KR> Prop Bolts To: KRnet Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am lost, here. Do you guys all have threaded prop flanges? My prop has go-through bolts, which are locked on the aircraft side using castle nuts and cotter pins. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Paris, France "Jeff Scott" Envoyé par : krnet-bounces@mylist.net 2005-01-05 17:09 Veuillez répondre à KRnet Remis le : 2005-01-05 17:11 Pour : krnet@mylist.net cc : (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : RE: KR> Prop Bolts As I understand it, Brian is correct. I have always used Standard AN bolts for prop bolts. I have also received Standard AN bolts from the prop manufacturer with the prop. Of course you can always safety any AN bolt with a drilled head properly without having the holes directly lined up. Special prop bolts make it fool proof with the additional holes drilled in the heads. -Jeff -- "Brian Kraut" wrote: According to the Aircraft Spruce catalog the difference is that the heads have safety wire holes drilled in three directions instead of just one hole like normal drilled head bolts. This is to give you a better chance of getting the safety wire in the correct position for a good lock. Of course, this is only important when you are putting the bolts into a threaded prop hub. When you are using nuts on the back of the bolts like the Great Plains hub it doesn't really matter. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- What makes a Prop Bolt, a Prop Bolt, and where do you get them? _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:05:34 GMT From: "Jeff Scott" Subject: Re: Réf. : RE: KR> Prop Bolts To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050105.110608.1467.743@webmail16.lax.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain Serge, Most aircraft engines have threaded drive lugs pressed into the prop flange. The drive lugs fit snugly into the back of the prop, which makes the prop more tolerant of improper torque procedures. Nothing wrong with the VW style of bolting through the flange. Jeff -- "Serge VIDAL" wrote: I am lost, here. Do you guys all have threaded prop flanges? My prop has go-through bolts, which are locked on the aircraft side using castle nuts and cotter pins. Serge Vidal KR2 ZS-WEC Paris, France ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:25:11 -0800 From: Jim Morehead Subject: KR> Wax and PVA To: KR- Net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Happy New Year Netters, I have a question on using ³molding release Wax and ²PVA release film² on unpainted fiber glass. I¹m fitting my unpainted canopy frame to the forward deck. I don¹t want to paint the underside of the canopy frame until I get the the canopy glassed in. If I do use the wax and PVA, what do you use to remove all the wax before painting? Jim Morehead Cameron Park, CA Working on the canopy and the instrument panel. ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 13:50:21 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> Wax and PVA To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <022801c4f35f$ca771120$5e0ca58c@net.tbe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Jim Moorehead wrote: > I have a question on using ³molding release Wax and ²PVA release film² > on unpainted fiber glass. I¹m fitting my unpainted canopy frame to the > forward deck. I don¹t want to paint the underside of the canopy frame until > I get the the canopy glassed in. If I do use the wax and PVA, what do > you use to remove all the wax before painting? I usually just wrap stuff like that with duct tape (or thin packing tape, if thickness or surface finish is a consideration) for a release agent, and then you don't have to worry about removing the wax. But if you do wax it (and that's what you asked), laquer thinner and lots of paper towels will probably do it, or you can go to the auto paint store and buy some stuff that's made specifically for the task. Horizon makes something they call "Pre Clean" that works great. Personally, I'd try to stay away from wax and silicones until after the plane is completely painted though, knowing what little I do about painting stuff. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL N56ML at hiwaay.net see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 16:44:26 -0500 From: "Doug Rupert" Subject: RE: KR> Wax and PVA To: "'KRnet'" Message-ID: <002701c4f36f$d24b0db0$2104e440@office> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Silicones have to be the worst, seems that you can wash whatever the part may be till the cows come home and there will still be a small amount left behind to screw up an otherwise perfect job. Doug Rupert Personally, I'd try to stay away from wax and silicones until after the plane is completely painted though, knowing what little I do about painting stuff. Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:05:40 -0500 From: Subject: KR> whell pants To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <00e101c4f372$c3dd0640$6801a8c0@server> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, I hope this doesn't seem like a really dumb question but. Are you guys drilling and tapping the axle on the main gear to except a screw to secure the wheel pants? I have Matco brakes if that makes a difference. Or is there a better way? Jeff York Lexington, KY. KR-2 N839BG http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ Homepage , click on My airplane to see KR-2 ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:28:16 -0500 (EST) From: Don Chisholm Subject: KR> silicone and paint To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <20050105222816.55842.qmail@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii a little story about silicone I've worked the autoglass,automotive upholstery beat for a while now,body shops hate the word silicone. We used silicone to install in rubber autoglass to make things slippery. The fine mist in the air from aerosol spray silicone would fish eye a paint job and land on every car being prepped. If you ever get stiffed by a bodyshop you could do a drive by, punch a tiny hole in the side of a spray can and toss it through the bay door. Don Chisholm ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:20:51 -0600 From: "Mark Jones" Subject: Re: KR> wheel pants To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <000e01c4f37d$37d84b40$6401a8c0@wi.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My axles came already dirlled an tapped. There is no reason why you can not do it. The end of the axle where it is drilled and tapped is not a stress factor area. Mark Jones (N886MJ) Wales, WI USA E-mail me at flykr2s@wi.rr.com Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html ----- Original Message ----- From: > > Are you guys drilling and tapping the axle on the main gear to except > a screw to secure the wheel pants? > ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 18:33:01 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> Prop Bolts To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <001001c4f37e$e6c11960$2de7d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Special prop bolts Some would have you think that props require special bolts. Some sales people advertise certain bolts as prop bolts. In general aviation, it is the manufacturer who gets to decide which bolt of whatever style is used in his certified aircraft. The owner of such an aircraft must use the same bolt, with only a few exceptions. The mythical prop bolt does not exist. The addition of safety wire to the head of a bolt is not a substitute for the proper torque, and is only designed to keep the bolt in place should torque be lost for some reason. The direction of the pull on the bolt by the wire should always be in the direction that would tighten the bolt. A prop secured with a bolt and self locking nut does not require the addition of safety wire. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR celebrating 20 years Flying, flying and more flying http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:05:29 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> whell pants To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41DC80C9.000003.02112@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Best way I know of. Should be no problem, but all the ones that I have ever had, have already been drilled and tapped. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- Are you guys drilling and tapping the axle on the main gear to except a screw to secure the wheel pants? ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:53:25 EST From: N667HU@aol.com Subject: KR> KR video's To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <7f.54dcea62.2f0de605@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I am looking for any video's of KR's flying. I have a fast internet connection and if anyone has any they would like to send me offline, please do so. I am trying to get as much information built up as I can. Take offs and landing videos are good also. Trip video's, ect. My wife is really wanting to see some fly. I want to get her excited about it before I start throwing money at things..... Larry ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 19:18:12 -0600 From: "Mark Langford" Subject: Re: KR> wheel pants To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <02a301c4f38d$97fc7720$1202a8c0@1700xp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You don't actually NEED a hole anywhere on the axle, depending on what kind of wheel pants you have. Many wheel pants are split either vertically or horizontally, and fit together. If they're not split, you can split them and add a joggle to reattach the halves. Then you sandwich a piece of .090 aluminum between axle and gear leg, maybe 4" tall and 8" long, extending front and rear, and use that piece of aluminum to attach one half (or maybe even both), and the other half attaches to the first half. That's one way, anyway. I'm sure somebody has some photos somewhere. I haven't done it yet, but mine will be split. Split wheel pants allow you to more fully enclose the tire for better aerodynamics. The threaded hole in the axle would certainly help stabilize things though. Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 20:23:27 -0500 From: "Orma" Subject: Re: KR> KR video's To: "KRnet" Message-ID: <003801c4f38e$53dc2b20$2de7d445@ROBBINS1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original video's of KR's flying Hello Larry If you go to my web site you will find a few short clips. Orma Southfield, MI N110LR celebrating 20 years Flying, flying and more flying http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 20:28:04 EST From: N667HU@aol.com Subject: Re: KR> KR video's To: krnet@mylist.net Message-ID: <1b8.9f7192c.2f0dee24@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thanks Orma, I have already downloaded them. They are pretty cool. Larry ------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:16:54 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> EGT sensor To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I used the standard Westach sensor and it worked fine. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 6:28 AM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> EGT sensor For those of you who have installed the EGT sensor on a VW exhaust. Is the clamp on your sensor too big for the pipe? If so, what did you do to accommodate for that? I seem to remember the same problem with the Little Beast, but cannot remember what I did to make it fit. With all the room that the builders of these sensors have to work with, you would think that they would accommodate the largest to the smallest exhaust pipes. This is not an issue that we should even have to be concerned about. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:27:26 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> silicone and paint To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A silicone cocktail? Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Don Chisholm Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:28 PM To: krnet@mylist.net Subject: KR> silicone and paint a little story about silicone I've worked the autoglass,automotive upholstery beat for a while now,body shops hate the word silicone. We used silicone to install in rubber autoglass to make things slippery. The fine mist in the air from aerosol spray silicone would fish eye a paint job and land on every car being prepped. If you ever get stiffed by a bodyshop you could do a drive by, punch a tiny hole in the side of a spray can and toss it through the bay door. Don Chisholm _______________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html ------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 12:34:53 +1000 From: "Glasseyegav" Subject: KR> Gear legs To: "KR builders and pilots" Message-ID: <000a01c4f398$4dcee600$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi all, Quick question!! on the Dan Deihl type gear legs, Do the bolts holding the legs to the wing spar bracket require aluminium back up plates against the fibreglass leg or are flat washers enough surface area?? Gavin -------------- next part -------------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: 03/01/2005 ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:35:00 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: KR> John Backer wheel pants To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" John, if you are online, or if anyone knows his number or email address, I was speaking to Jeanette Rand today and she asked for your name and number to talk to you about selling your wheel pants. Sorry everyone else for the BW. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:35:04 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Grove gear To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, it turns out that Rand Robinson no longer sells the one piece spring bar gear that fits in the existing retract mounting bolt holes. Apparently, they had to be bought ten at a time, prices have gone way up, and the guy that used to make them has died. Looks like I am back to getting the Grove one piece gear. Would anyone happen to have a set for sale before I go and order them? Contact me at brian@engalt.com. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com ------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:41:57 -0500 From: "Brian Kraut" Subject: RE: KR> Gear legs To: "KRnet" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Just washers. All of the hardware comes with the Diehl set when you buy it. IIRC they are the larger diameter wood type washers. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -----Original Message----- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt.com@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Glasseyegav Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:35 PM To: KR builders and pilots Subject: KR> Gear legs Hi all, Quick question!! on the Dan Deihl type gear legs, Do the bolts holding the legs to the wing spar bracket require aluminium back up plates against the fibreglass leg or are flat washers enough surface area?? Gavin ------------------------------ Message: 27 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:57:04 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Dan Heath" Subject: Re: KR> KR video's To: "krnet@mylist.net" Message-ID: <41DCA900.000013.02112@DANHOMECOMPUTER> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I really think that you can get previous years videos from Video Bob. See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building has expired. Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering -------Original Message------- I am looking for any video's of KR's flying. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ See KRnet list details at http://www.krnet.org/instructions.html End of KRnet Digest, Vol 347, Issue 6 ************************************* ================================== ABC Amber Outlook Converter v4.20 Trial version ==================================